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Veryth wrote...

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By the way: http://twitter.com/#...307366397902848


Wait, WHAT?


Poor Bioware staff.. so young.. and already indoctrinated :(


Screw the RP crap. This is a very bad thing. You DO NOT MAKE FUN OF YOUR CUSTOMERS TO THEIR FACES. 
NEVER, NEVER, EVER. First thing they tell you in any Customer Interaction job.


Unrelated but the last unicorn is an amazing movie. 


Heroes know that things must happen when it is time for them to happen. A quest may not simply be abandoned; unicorns may go unrescued for a long time, but not forever. A happy ending cannot come in the middle of the story. 

That tweet is really not good PR! As a social network consultent,  I would never write that kind of tweet, nor allow anyone in my staff to tweet something like that. It would have been better to say nothing at all, until an offical statement was authorized and published. You don't play games with a angry customer, while your forums are raging.

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Also, where can i find the new fleet banners?

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ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

One thing I do want to bring up is we aren't a lot of people. Lets assume EA sells 1 million copies of ME3, then we represent (at 30,000 votes) 3% of total consumers. So remember that, even if we get to 100,000 votes that's only 10% of your customers. Why would they remake the ending for 10%?


Easy answer we are only the ones pissed enough to come post there are others out there who will not be buying anymore BiowarEA junk. DLC sales can't expect much at all, retail prices are already going down. It's not just ME stuff I will not be buying I will give all BiowarEA stuff a miss, they have shown they are more then willing to bait and switch and take my money for something other then stated. More sales cost is added when companies like forbes etc get involved they will miss sales on other products because their willingness to screw fans is being seen.  Maybe I'm alone here but with whats been done to DA and KOTOR according to some of the reviews I have seen they dug a hole here that will break thier backs unless they do something and fast. At this point they have even thier own fanboys WTFing.

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Ivon wrote...

zarnk567 wrote...

P.S      Most of us did not want a "happy end" just and ending that made sense and fit with the rest of the story. :(


Heeey, I wanted a happy ending. That's why I redid so many of the missions and completely scraped my Geth section so the Geth and Quarrians would be saved.

I want a happy ending; and damn it if I didn't work for it.<_<


I have to admit I want a happy ending, not all sunshine and roses offcourse, but some level of  a good ending.
For me mass effect was always about hope, not destruction and violence. The hope to win against all odds, and Shepard was the symbol of that hope.  Call me silly if you wish but real life is bleak enough.

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Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...

COSMIC SAMURAI wrote...

I love that the endings are all the same besides the color of the explosion


Everyone knows space magic comes in only 4 varieties.  Red (F the whole galaxy), Blue(Mind control cthulu), and Green (Everyone is half robot now!)    There's a lesser known Yellow (Dance party!) but no one picks that one.


yea, and these endings are also how the force comes to be in Star wars movies, the new life created from the green light is Medichlorients. ;)

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Alllllright, five days and I'm still as angry and depressed as I was when I first finished the game! Thanks Bioware!

I can see somebody out there drowning themselves in their own toilet thanks to this ending fiasco.

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Fox544 wrote...

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There's one thing I don't get. This AI controlling the citadel is omniscient and the Reapers all-powerful and their goal is to protect organic life from synthetic. Why don't the reapers just destroy synthetics when they're created and tell organics they're next if they don't stop creating synthetics.

Because that is logical

lol well if we wanna argue logic. How did the protheans disable the God Child signal in 1? Why would the God Child LET them? After 1 when there was obviously more to the Citadel than met the eye why didn't they start exploring? Wouldn't it make more sense that the Crucible was the giant Mass Accelerator talked about in 2 since it can obviously wreck a reaper? Why doesn't the galaxy implode when every relay blows up at the same time ala Arrival DLC?
This is ME3 and we will not have any of that logical grand standing here lol.

Joke much

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Dj14365 wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

mpgeist wrote...

There's one thing I don't get. This AI controlling the citadel is omniscient and the Reapers all-powerful and their goal is to protect organic life from synthetic. Why don't the reapers just destroy synthetics when they're created and tell organics they're next if they don't stop creating synthetics.

Because that is logical

lol well if we wanna argue logic. How did the protheans disable the God Child signal in 1? Why would the God Child LET them? After 1 when there was obviously more to the Citadel than met the eye why didn't they start exploring? Wouldn't it make more sense that the Crucible was the giant Mass Accelerator talked about in 2 since it can obviously wreck a reaper? Why doesn't the galaxy implode when every relay blows up at the same time ala Arrival DLC?
This is ME3 and we will not have any of that logical grand standing here lol.

Joke much



Same.

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In ME3 we get to decide between 3 different options. If we have a high enough EMS we get to see a clip of shepherd taking in a breath of air, showing that he lived. Once again... not a whole lot of choice. So, why complain about something we were never given, and never promised? Everything you do prior to the endings. DOES matter because your decisions RADICALLY effect your EMS. It just doesn't matter in the context of the ending, because Bioware can't make 16 totally different endings dependent on the hundreds of choices you can make in the game.

I am happy that I got 3 options instead of 2, and more meaningful variables of who lives and dies on earth and, to a degree, throughout the galaxy, versus who lives and who dies on my ship.


But who cares if Shepard lived? As far as we know most of our crew and friends are dead, and all the mass relays are gone = all galactic civilization gone = no Mass Effect.

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3rd-apex wrote...

stupid question... when has Bioware ever given us control over the ending? In ME1, Saren (either by you killing him, or by him killing himself) died, Sovereign Died, and you decide the fate of the current council. All three things happen in any ME1 game. All the endings are virtually the same. It's just a matter of how paragon or renegade you want to go with it.

In ME2, you have to destroy the Collector base, or keep it. The only difference between each end-game play through is how many people live to tell about it. How is that a different ending at all? Really.

In ME3 we get to decide between 3 different options. If we have a high enough EMS we get to see a clip of shepherd taking in a breath of air, showing that he lived. Once again... not a whole lot of choice. So, why complain about something we were never given, and never promised? Everything you do prior to the endings. DOES matter because your decisions RADICALLY effect your EMS. It just doesn't matter in the context of the ending, because Bioware can't make 16 totally different endings dependent on the hundreds of choices you can make in the game.

I am happy that I got 3 options instead of 2, and more meaningful variables of who lives and dies on earth and, to a degree, throughout the galaxy, versus who lives and who dies on my ship.


In ME2, you can actually kill off Shepard and any number of the squad. Did you miss that?

Talk about red herring - nobody is asking for 16 totally different endings. Can you honestly not imagine say five endings that would lend greater variety to what we have now? 

Dude, we were TOTALLY promised that our actions would affect the ending of the game and that the endings would be different. 

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ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

Good youtube video about ME3 ending, SourceFed:

Edit: till Phil showed up that is



"Till Phil showed up that is" agreed but...that's Phil for you. I like him but I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about or doesn't want to make EA angry, regardless I think he should stay off Source Fed. Important thing: Lee and Elliot are clearly on our side. 

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My reaction to the ending

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ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

One thing I do want to bring up is we aren't a lot of people. Lets assume EA sells 1 million copies of ME3, then we represent (at 30,000 votes) 3% of total consumers. So remember that, even if we get to 100,000 votes that's only 10% of your customers. Why would they remake the ending for 10%?


yes but they have to take note 30,000 people don't buy DLC and if only a handfull of peopl cancil there tor sub say 500-1000 thats another blow re-actavate them once we get a responce if you want but if we hit there bottm line then they have to take note.

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Okay. Here's what I want to know. How exactly was Bioware planning on using future DLC with the way the endings currently are? I just don't get that...

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3rd-apex wrote...

In ME2, you have to destroy the Collector base, or keep it. The only difference between each end-game play through is how many people live to tell about it. How is that a different ending at all? Really.

The ENTIRE suicide mission was a dynamic scene based on your choices.  What upgrades you bought, who was loyal, the weapons and ship upgrades ALL factored in to how well you did.  Your entire team could die, along with your entire crew based on your choices.  And if you lived, you got to make the call on the collector base.

In ME3, the troops on the ground either cheer or they don't, and the laser changes colors.  Neat.

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hmlee2008 wrote...

Okay. Here's what I want to know. How exactly was Bioware planning on using future DLC with the way the endings currently are? I just don't get that...


stuff like overlord or from ashes.

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So... I heard some possible leaks today. Firstly: The old man and the child at the end of the ending, after the credits, are apparently Joker and your Love Interest's child. Which... I could see kind of. If you think about it one way. If they did land on that random planet and survive long enough, Joker could be an old man telling your child about you and how you were a legend.

Secondly, Anonymous from EA apparently dropped a COUPLE vague hints at there being more ME games... And a hint about James, though nothing detailed. I heard this via word of mouth, mind you.

The problem with both of these leaks is that it validates the current endings and I do not agree with this.

This could be why they want us to keep our saves so bad.

Modifié par Eirileth, 12 mars 2012 - 11:58 .


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I absolutely loved the game...until the ending. It's not the worst ending in the history of gaming, but it's not enough for this series. I mean we're talking about Mass effin Effect here, one of the best RPG series in gaming, and all I get is 3 endings that left me unsatisfied. I'm not terribly disappointed but I am not satisfied.

The game was a 9.5 to 10/10 until the last minutes where it went to 7 for me. I really am a Bioware fanboy, but this will make me doubt how good these guys are with their games, and how commited they are to their fanbase if we don't get a decent ending.

I busted my ass to get 6700+ assets and 100% Galactic Readiness, and I want a "best possible ending".

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this has a pretty good point

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Eirileth wrote...

So... I heard some possible leaks today. Firstly: The old man and the child at the end of the ending, after the credits, are apparently Joker and your Love Interest's child.


Joker and Kaidan: Forbidden Love, the new fanfic

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Taeran88 wrote...

I absolutely loved the game...until the ending. It's not the worst ending in the history of gaming, but it's not enough for this series. I mean we're talking about Mass effin Effect here, one of the best RPG series in gaming, and all I get is 3 endings that left me unsatisfied. I'm not terribly disappointed but I am not satisfied.

The game was a 9.5 to 10/10 until the last minutes where it went to 7 for me. I really am a Bioware fanboy, but this will make me doubt how good these guys are with their games, and how commited they are to their fanbase if we don't get a decent ending.

I busted my ass to get 6700+ assets and 100% Galactic Readiness, and I want a "best possible ending".


Don't blame BioWare. They feel horrible about all of this, judging by Chris Priestly's tweet last night. EA strong armed them into this. EA is notorious for doing that to good game companies that end up working with them.

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hmlee2008 wrote...

Okay. Here's what I want to know. How exactly was Bioware planning on using future DLC with the way the endings currently are? I just don't get that...


Since I know, the next planned DLC plays on Omega and is about how to fight off the Reapers there.

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3rd-apex wrote...

stupid question... when has Bioware ever given us control over the ending? In ME1, Saren (either by you killing him, or by him killing himself) died, Sovereign Died, and you decide the fate of the current council. All three things happen in any ME1 game. All the endings are virtually the same. It's just a matter of how paragon or renegade you want to go with it.

In ME2, you have to destroy the Collector base, or keep it. The only difference between each end-game play through is how many people live to tell about it. How is that a different ending at all? Really.

In ME3 we get to decide between 3 different options. If we have a high enough EMS we get to see a clip of shepherd taking in a breath of air, showing that he lived. Once again... not a whole lot of choice. So, why complain about something we were never given, and never promised? Everything you do prior to the endings. DOES matter because your decisions RADICALLY effect your EMS. It just doesn't matter in the context of the ending, because Bioware can't make 16 totally different endings dependent on the hundreds of choices you can make in the game.

I am happy that I got 3 options instead of 2, and more meaningful variables of who lives and dies on earth and, to a degree, throughout the galaxy, versus who lives and who dies on my ship.



The deciding factor was we had to work to get everyone to survive.  Potentially, there was an ending where no-one survived except Joker, but you -really- had to work at it to get it lol.  It exists ^^

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PresidentCowboy wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

So... I heard some possible leaks today. Firstly: The old man and the child at the end of the ending, after the credits, are apparently Joker and your Love Interest's child.


Joker and Kaidan: Forbidden Love, the new fanfic


No. Joker talking to the child that your Love Interest has after all of this happens. Which could be Shepard's child, depending on who you romanced and what gender you were.

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christrek1982 wrote...

One thing I do want to bring up is we aren't a lot of people. Lets assume EA sells 1 million copies of ME3, then we represent (at 30,000 votes) 3% of total consumers. So remember that, even if we get to 100,000 votes that's only 10% of your customers. Why would they remake the ending for 10%?

That's not how statistics work.  The 30,000 are NOT the only people dissatisfied.  The total number of votes are a sample size, which IS an accurate representation of the masses.  When they take presidential polling, they often ask only 800-900 individuals, but come within 4-5 percentage points of the final results.  You are assuming that anyone who isn't on this board liked the ending, which is just not the case.  30,000 is a VERY generous sample size.  And even if you give it a large margin of error, say 5-10%, you are still left with a VAST majority that is dissatisfied.