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[Darkspazztic]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Didn't one of them just tweet: "Íf you would know what is coming for you... well, hold on unto your ME3-copy."

Basically.  And to be honest, if they told me the endings would be addressed, I would start a full series replay right now, as I intended to do when I took 8 days off of work.

I would personally buy copies of each game again to show my support.

[Darkwingduck]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting the staff will inevitably have about this clusterf***

[Rosery99]

Lets keep stuff civil guys, noticing a few comments that are moving in on the bashing/raging area and not in the ways we need raging to be. If you gotta take ten minutes do it, but if we don't keep it civil. This and any hope is all for nothing.

[KHReborn]

Renoskunk wrote...

I love the rescue shepard idea, the ability to play as one of your squadmates(most likely your LI) and repair the normandy and get to Earth or the remains of the Citidel, but that still leaves one question. How did they get to that planet, and why was Joker running, how did they get to the normandy if they were running with me and got destroyed by the Reaper beam?

I don't like the idea to pay for that (if that's the case). This would be an essential part of the story ripped of my 75€ CE.

[Aztlanna]

J5550123 wrote...

I've seen people act the same way. "I'm sure you are overeacting, but I haven't beat it yet." Then they beat the game and come here just as angry and upset as we are. Lol.

Yep. I was ****ing on Twitter the other day; I beat the game pretty fast. I have 5K followers and most of them felt like arguing with me, telling me it couldn't possibly be that bad.

So FF four days, and a good portion of them are now @ing me with, "You were right. I didn't see how it could possibly be that bad -- I was prepared for Shep to die -- but you WERE RIGHT. It doesn't even make sense!" 

I was like, uh huh.

[P_sutherland]

KHReborn wrote...

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Lets see his reaction, after "finishing" the game.

we'll save him a seat.

[soske aizen]

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

not to come off as a **** but um HE DIDNT EVEN FINISH

[illutian]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

One thing is for certain. Never, not once, over the past five years, did I think that the epilogue to the series would be a text popup that said "Commander Shepard has become a legend. Buy the DLC!"

Heh,.. yeah..

Well, thinking about all the stuff the BW-guys twittered, it's pretty obvious there is something coming for us. Like I said, it would be embarassing though if they have to give us the ending via DLC.

Didn't one of them just tweet: "Íf you would know what is coming for you... well, hold on unto your ME3-copy."

Maybe that's what the MP DLC is about. The players fighting in a pseudo-MMO style wrap up and at the end you get a free DLC that takes the PLAYER BASE's ASSETS + YOUR ASSETS and has you finish the fight. If you don't play the MP DLC you're given a small amount like importing your ME2 Shep I 'thought' gave you some War Asset points.

[Computim]

Renoskunk wrote...

I love the rescue shepard idea, the ability to play as one of your squadmates(most likely your LI) and repair the normandy and get to Earth or the remains of the Citidel, but that still leaves one question. How did they get to that planet, and why was Joker running, how did they get to the normandy if they were running with me and got destroyed by the Reaper beam?

You don't actually see your crew running from what I understand (someone correct me if I'm wrong).. I just did an all out sprint to the giant beam dodging craziness along the way... your team could have been knocked over by something at the very first and not even realized it (unless of course they were killed as in some of the cases).  You don't know how long you were 'out' on the ground and citadel.. they could stretch that without sacrificing realism fairly well.

[zarnk567]

J5550123 wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Lets see his reaction, after "finishing" the game.

I've seen people act the same way. "I'm sure you are overeacting, but I haven't beat it yet." Then they beat the game and come here just as angry and upset as we are. Lol.

yup that was me, did not believe anything that people were saying about the endings.... then I saw the endings.... and now I'am mad, and feel bad for calling all those people trolls. 

[TamiBx]

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Well, he hasn't seen the ending, so I can kind of forgive him...

But people need to understand that video games aren't movies or books. .

[Darkspazztic]

Darkwingduck wrote...

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting the staff will inevitably have about this clusterf***

Hell no.

I'd rather be me in that meeting begging and pleading with them to please for the love of all things decent to fix it!

[soske aizen]

Darkspazztic wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting the staff will inevitably have about this clusterf***

Hell no.

I'd rather be me in that meeting begging and pleading with them to please for the love of all things decent to fix it!

^^^this

[Computim]

Darkspazztic wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting the staff will inevitably have about this clusterf***

Hell no.

I'd rather be me in that meeting begging and pleading with them to please for the love of all things decent to fix it!

I'd rather be the guy who wears a Salarian costume to work that day and gives a rousing speech about standing up to corporate deadlines and how we need to make this right.. and to hold the line of course

[KHReborn]

P_sutherland wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Lets see his reaction, after "finishing" the game.

we'll save him a seat.

With some space magic:wizard:. The color is his choice

[Darth_Acheron47]

I feel the need to add my two cents.

(TL;DR – most of this will probably just be ranting and rehashing what other people have already said.)

I came to the Mass Effect party a little late. A coworker’s son told me about the series around Thanksgiving of 2010, after the first and second games had already been released. Based on his recommendation, I actually went searching for the first game specifically before getting the second, even though it was a lot harder to come by at that point.

I bought the second game the next day, knowing I was already hooked. It took me just over a month to finish both games. I literally beat the first, watched the credits, and started the second on the same day. Once that was done, I went back and created an entirely new Shepard to try different things – explore different relationships, make different choices, do things in a different order. I wanted to see what differences came out in the second game and, more importantly, in the third.

Over the past year, I’ve downloaded all of the DLC for both games. Granted, I never finished Pinnacle Station because I’m not a huge fan of the canned “training sim shooter” montage. I will be the first to admit that, before ME, I was a melee RPG fighter. Even on KOTOR, I couldn’t hit an enemy with a blaster at five paces. I’ve also purchased all the comics, books, N7 hoodie, Normandy model, etc. Even before this, it was a little depressing to think how addicted I was to Mass Effect and how much money I was handing over to these people.

When I started seeing footage for ME3, up to and including every video clip I could get my hands on during E3, I was beyond excited. People at my office thought I was crazy because I found one of those website countdown clocks and put in the release date and left it on my monitor all day. It started at 272 days.

Long story short(ish) – I played both ME and ME2 six times each to set up as many different options as I could. I went through at different difficulty levels, I had a play through where I tried to keep everyone alive through the suicide mission and set up the “ideal” scenario to start off the third game, and even one where I purposely did everything I could “wrong” (up to and including killing Wrex and the rachni, two of the hardest choices I’ve ever had to force myself to make in a video game) just to see what would happen.

I was so excited for the third game that I took time off just so I could enjoy focusing on playing. Three days and thirty five hours later, I was sitting on my couch grinning like an idiot after blasting the Reaper destroyer in London to bits, having just made it through the longest, hardest, most hellish gunfight I’d ever been through. Right up until that point, the game was awesome.

Then I ran down a hill, got hit with a Reaper laser beam, and felt pretty sure I saw Garrus and Kaidan (my LI in my first play through) get killed before my eyes.

That sucked. But I could accept it.

I could even accept the trudging half-blind through the Citadel with the gun that didn’t run out of ammo and somehow blew the head off a Marauder in three shots, and my lack of a health bar, and Anderson and TIM showing up “somehow” on the Citadel in a strange place no one ever saw before, in order to take the biggest Deus Ex Machina super-weapon and blow the Reapers to hell. I was prepared to accept Anderson dying, Shepard dying, most of my team dying, and the game being over on a tragic, sad note as the galaxy tried to rebuild from the carnage.

What I don’t accept is the idea that a game that took 100+ hours on one run through all three titles, carrying your choices through the whole way, ended by picking which color explosion you want to see go pinging across the galaxy, watch your ship inexplicably crash on some random jungle planet, and a cut scene about “one more story about The Shepard.”

I feel completely betrayed. I feel like none of the work that I did, from the very beginning choices to the very end, meant anything. I’ve never been this excited for this long about something, and the experience would have lived up to my admittedly high expectations, if not for that force-fed ending that rendered everything else you thought or did or said completely and totally irrelevant.

I have three other characters (two games were NG+ on the first game to play through Hardcore and Insanity with higher levels and better equipment), and no desire to play this through to the end with any of them. Unless there’s some indication that the choices I make have any effect or impact whatsoever, there’s no reason.

I’ll sum up before I just really depress myself even more.

One: These games are about choice and consequence. With the current ending, we get none of either.

Two: Even the “singular” endings of the past games have left the player with a decent amount of closure. You could walk around after the suicide mission and see your squad, check on who lived and died, and talk about what had just happened.

Three: I don’t care if the ending is happy and I get a cabin in Vancouver and lots of Shenko babies or everyone dies and I see the aftermath of all-out total war on the galaxy. I devoted my whole life to this game for a week straight, not even counting the time spent on the others both in-game, talking/thinking about it, strategizing about killing Reapers with friends, in the attempt to get closure for this story, and received none.

/rant

That said, thank you for giving me a place to rant. I’m usually one of those protestors that goes: “Oh, cool, check out what those guys are doing. I agree with that, hope it works out for them.” I think it’s saying something that this was bad enough that I managed to find the nerve to add my voice.

Hold The Line – agreed. Sign me up.

[Paranoidal nemesis]

After the credits, I saw two people staring at the night sky, with one of the asking to hear another story about, "The Shepard." I don't really remember the, "Shepard has become a legend, buy the DLC" message; I was probably two pissed off to remember.

The whole experience reminds me of this clip from South Park: http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/387414/we-get-nothing#searchterm=ea

Modifié par Paranoidal nemesis, 13 mars 2012 - 01:28 .

[J5550123]

zarnk567 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

Ellykahn wrote...

Guys see G4tv posted about us? haha.
the guy who wrote the article is against changing the end but still another site to add tot he list. xD
also he hasnt beaten the game yet.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Lets see his reaction, after "finishing" the game.

I've seen people act the same way. "I'm sure you are overeacting, but I haven't beat it yet." Then they beat the game and come here just as angry and upset as we are. Lol.

yup that was me, did not believe anything that people were saying about the endings.... then I saw the endings.... and now I'am mad, and feel bad for calling all those people trolls. 

Nah, shouldn't feel bad. I went into the game without spoilers, but if someone had told me I would hate it, I wouldn't have believed it either.

[Kloborgg711]

Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

I feel the need to add my two cents.

(TL;DR – most of this will probably just be ranting and rehashing what other people have already said.)

I came to the Mass Effect party a little late. A coworker’s son told me about the series around Thanksgiving of 2010, after the first and second games had already been released. Based on his recommendation, I actually went searching for the first game specifically before getting the second, even though it was a lot harder to come by at that point.

I bought the second game the next day, knowing I was already hooked. It took me just over a month to finish both games. I literally beat the first, watched the credits, and started the second on the same day. Once that was done, I went back and created an entirely new Shepard to try different things – explore different relationships, make different choices, do things in a different order. I wanted to see what differences came out in the second game and, more importantly, in the third.

Over the past year, I’ve downloaded all of the DLC for both games. Granted, I never finished Pinnacle Station because I’m not a huge fan of the canned “training sim shooter” montage. I will be the first to admit that, before ME, I was a melee RPG fighter. Even on KOTOR, I couldn’t hit an enemy with a blaster at five paces. I’ve also purchased all the comics, books, N7 hoodie, Normandy model, etc. Even before this, it was a little depressing to think how addicted I was to Mass Effect and how much money I was handing over to these people.

When I started seeing footage for ME3, up to and including every video clip I could get my hands on during E3, I was beyond excited. People at my office thought I was crazy because I found one of those website countdown clocks and put in the release date and left it on my monitor all day. It started at 272 days.

Long story short(ish) – I played both ME and ME2 six times each to set up as many different options as I could. I went through at different difficulty levels, I had a play through where I tried to keep everyone alive through the suicide mission and set up the “ideal” scenario to start off the third game, and even one where I purposely did everything I could “wrong” (up to and including killing Wrex and the rachni, two of the hardest choices I’ve ever had to force myself to make in a video game) just to see what would happen.

I was so excited for the third game that I took time off just so I could enjoy focusing on playing. Three days and thirty five hours later, I was sitting on my couch grinning like an idiot after blasting the Reaper destroyer in London to bits, having just made it through the longest, hardest, most hellish gunfight I’d ever been through. Right up until that point, the game was awesome.

Then I ran down a hill, got hit with a Reaper laser beam, and felt pretty sure I saw Garrus and Kaidan (my LI in my first play through) get killed before my eyes.

That sucked. But I could accept it.

I could even accept the trudging half-blind through the Citadel with the gun that didn’t run out of ammo and somehow blew the head off a Marauder in three shots, and my lack of a health bar, and Anderson and TIM showing up “somehow” on the Citadel in a strange place no one ever saw before, in order to take the biggest Deus Ex Machina super-weapon and blow the Reapers to hell. I was prepared to accept Anderson dying, Shepard dying, most of my team dying, and the game being over on a tragic, sad note as the galaxy tried to rebuild from the carnage.

What I don’t accept is the idea that a game that took 100+ hours on one run through all three titles, carrying your choices through the whole way, ended by picking which color explosion you want to see go pinging across the galaxy, watch your ship inexplicably crash on some random jungle planet, and a cut scene about “one more story about The Shepard.”

I feel completely betrayed. I feel like none of the work that I did, from the very beginning choices to the very end, meant anything. I’ve never been this excited for this long about something, and the experience would have lived up to my admittedly high expectations, if not for that force-fed ending that rendered everything else you thought or did or said completely and totally irrelevant.

I have three other characters (two games were NG+ on the first game to play through Hardcore and Insanity with higher levels and better equipment), and no desire to play this through to the end with any of them. Unless there’s some indication that the choices I make have any effect or impact whatsoever, there’s no reason.

I’ll sum up before I just really depress myself even more.

One: These games are about choice and consequence. With the current ending, we get none of either.

Two: Even the “singular” endings of the past games have left the player with a decent amount of closure. You could walk around after the suicide mission and see your squad, check on who lived and died, and talk about what had just happened.

Three: I don’t care if the ending is happy and I get a cabin in Vancouver and lots of Shenko babies or everyone dies and I see the aftermath of all-out total war on the galaxy. I devoted my whole life to this game for a week straight, not even counting the time spent on the others both in-game, talking/thinking about it, strategizing about killing Reapers with friends, in the attempt to get closure for this story, and received none.

/rant

That said, thank you for giving me a place to rant. I’m usually one of those protestors that goes: “Oh, cool, check out what those guys are doing. I agree with that, hope it works out for them.” I think it’s saying something that this was bad enough that I managed to find the nerve to add my voice.

Hold The Line – agreed. Sign me up.

Thanks for your story!
It's funny, we get so many of these passionate detailed stories, it's difficult to remember these are all different people coming to their own conclusions! I remember how weird it was, when I finished, having all these horrible feelings, and seeing that hundreds/thousands others were sharing that with me in one place. 

[Ampmaster]

vigna wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Herthan wrote...

vigna wrote...

I just realized a short while ago the best comparison I can come up with.....

While playing ME3 I wholeheartedly thought I was reading the most beautiful love letter I had ever read, and then I got to the final sentence, and I realized it was a break up note.

I think that best sums up ME3 for me.....

Here, here.

I prefered the eating the best chili ever and discovering it's made from your parents analogy but yeah.

So, does anyone have a theory as to how the aliens magically disappear by the time the stargazer scene happens? There were thousands of alien races stranded on Earth, no relays, and it's obvious at the end that the stargazer scene is supposed to be taking place on "our" Earth, i.e. no super technology, aliens, etc.

that's an awful big moon.....

That's no moon....


Also anyone got anything vaguely resembling confirmation for this: alleged bioware employee post?

Seems legit... and if it's true I feel like it would cool down a lot of pissed off fans... though again the whole "paying for the actual ending" thing might irk more then a few.

[The Big Palooka]

Computim wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

KHReborn wrote...

look at this twitter conversation with Chris:

---

@BioEvilChris Would it be too much if I asked you something since you work at BioWare? It's not ****ing about ME3.

@KenRaves Shoot, I may not be able to answer, but I'll try.


@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

@BioEvilChris Totally fine, sir, thanks for your time! Also, I was 95% satisfied with the game - sorry 'bout the flak on the forums I saw.

---

Sounds like, something will be revealed.

edit: source: twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/179051973658685440

I dunno, man.  I get why that sounds promising, but I gotta admit I'm pessimistic.  I kinda interpret this more as Chris saying he's not going to talk about ending spoilers (as in, the ending we got, not a secret one) until a later date (when more people have finished the game, etc).

More likely the "Rescue Sheppard" DLC will have them fight their way onto the citadel, suddenly all your citadel war assets make sense, and then they have to escape to the normandy with Sheppard saying "go west young joker" (or something infinitely better... not that I'm setting the bar all that high) right before the station explodes....stuff ensues.  Sadly still leaving the crap citadel kid ending intact.. but still better than what's there in my opinion

Please let this be true instead, oh gods of video games.  LOOK DOWN ON ME IN MERCY.

[bkp360]

JosephDucreux wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

And that's probably what EAWare was counting on to boost profits. F*ckers.

Maybe.  But I'll pay if i have to.

[Flammenpanzer]

Ampmaster wrote...

vigna wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Herthan wrote...

vigna wrote...

I just realized a short while ago the best comparison I can come up with.....

While playing ME3 I wholeheartedly thought I was reading the most beautiful love letter I had ever read, and then I got to the final sentence, and I realized it was a break up note.

I think that best sums up ME3 for me.....

Here, here.

I prefered the eating the best chili ever and discovering it's made from your parents analogy but yeah.

So, does anyone have a theory as to how the aliens magically disappear by the time the stargazer scene happens? There were thousands of alien races stranded on Earth, no relays, and it's obvious at the end that the stargazer scene is supposed to be taking place on "our" Earth, i.e. no super technology, aliens, etc.

that's an awful big moon.....

That's no moon....


Also anyone got anything vaguely resembling confirmation for this: alleged bioware employee post?

Seems legit... and if it's true I feel like it would cool down a lot of pissed off fans... though again the whole "paying for the actual ending" thing might irk more then a few.

Legit? Shepard is never on the Normandy when it crashes....

[Jackal7713]

monimakitten wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

going to attempt to read thread from start to finish, wish me luck

 I dont offer luck I offer space magic:wizard:

Watch out for God Kid giving you three choices that offer the same crap.