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Kloborgg711

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babachewie wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people don't, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.


We've been being civil, please try to be civil as well and not trying to inflame us.

Dude trust me this is me being civil. Civility goes both ways. To spam bioware and their people with hate and bullcrap isnt doin anything and if anybody even hints at liking the ending they get bombarded with people thinking their mental or something. I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 



Go away troll. You can't tell us "civility goes both ways" when not one of us are insulting you for liking the ending or asking for your ending to be removed. You can't tell US to be civil when you get on for the sole intent of insulting us. Maybe you in your mind we're screeching and raging and cursing like you are, but we're not. Go back and re-read the last few pages. Your posts stick out like a sore thumb.

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Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."



Unfortunately he also said "Doesn't mean they'll do anything about it." which could very well be the case for those of us that didn't like the ending.

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http://social.biowar...45819/1#9846241

Let's do this.

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babachewie wrote...

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babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people don't, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.


We've been being civil, please try to be civil as well and not trying to inflame us.

Dude trust me this is me being civil. Civility goes both ways. To spam bioware and their people with hate and bullcrap isnt doin anything and if anybody even hints at liking the ending they get bombarded with people thinking their mental or something. I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 


You came into a thread for people who don't like the ending when you clearly do, told them they were being childish and then express a desire for them to be civil back? 

If you don't agree then perhaps move on and start a thread to express your own views.

Cheers.  McBeath.

Modifié par McBeath, 13 mars 2012 - 02:47 .


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Computim wrote...

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zoider16 wrote...

Hey, just found a link on the facebook page showing that ign has done a video about mass effect 3 opinions talking about people being angry about the endings and day one dlc here is the link: www.ign.com/videos/2012/03/12/mass-effect-3-opinion-video haven't watched it yet will make a post about it afterwards


I present to you Colin arrogant, condescending, ****


Kid's got a quad, can't fault him for standing up to 30,000 raging fans.  Completely disagree with him but don't hate him :)


His tone and complete lack of respect for anyone who doesn't share his opinion is wrong. He doesn't even have to pay for games anymore anyway, what does he care? And the gaming industry makes plenty of money...it's not an issue of that it's an issue of taking pride in their art and what Bioware did is a complete sham to the fans, and I can't honestly see any self respecting writer or developer backing the copy and paste job in the end cutscenes.

He uses that one fat guy complaining about the DLC to typecast us all as fat virgin-nerds who don't leave our mothers basements...complete middle finger to ME's fan base, IGN's fan base, and gamers in general.

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infinitekilan wrote...

christrek1982 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people do, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.



At least Colin, though vehemently disagreeable with our cause, was RESPECTFUL of our opinion. The only thing he called out was how far we're taking our dislike of the endings.

Well i dont know he called your petitions stupid. I mean they are but I dont really think he agrees with anything about this. 

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9845819

GO.HERE. It's our page for the donations to Childs Play, a way for us to gain Positive reputation and to show we aren't petulant selfish whiners and to help a worthy charity, aid our cause and aid other gamers. More information on the charity is in that thread, so hurry, go,read, comment! Soon the donation will be available, done by a reputable service known as ChipIn. We've talked the talk but now? Now it's time we walk the walk, you all know me, I post only to try and keep the thread focused well now Im directing you at a new form of garnering support for us and lowering the chances of being brushed off. 


$10 or so from me is most likely coming when the page is set up.

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(Longer wall of text than I initially expected.... Oh well)

I'll admit, I've been lurking this thread since Saturday. When originally hearing that the ending was terrible, I pretty much refused to believe. (like a lot of us, am I right?) Upon actually hitting the end, I ended up dumbfounded in an even worse way than the last time a game left me utterly stunned five bloody years ago, and that was off the fact the end was heartwrenching even though everything pointed to it happening. I was pretty much left confused, very quickly feeling downright empty. Yeah, I do realize I'm just preaching to the choir a lot of what they already said, but meh, more voices, right?
Haven't been with the series since the very beginning, only started late July of '11, but the endings as they are just leave a serious hole somewhere inside. I feel sorry for the ones that HAVE been with it from the beginning and might feel royally shafted if there is no change. Still, in my relatively short time in the series, I too have thrown in hundreds of hours over multiple runs through. Hell, my spare time last semester was spent archive diving through fanfiction.

I assume like the rest of ye, I thought the first two games were total gold, had their issues yeah, but overall were excellent. Exact same goes for 3, played it as much as I could for pretty much 4 days. I believe it had some of the best moments from the entire trilogy (Mordin and Thane come to mind). Everything pointed towards the end being one of the most satisfying I'd ever seen in games. Then it actually comes. Ending at Anderson and the Illusive Man would have been fine the way I look at it, as long had some sort of aftermath was given. But that AI, that bloody god-child came right the hell out of nowhere.

The fact that the Citadel was revealed as the Catalyst quite literally in the mission before Earth was pushing it enough. (Was on the Cerberus station, no? Correct me if I'm wrong)  Then pretty much saying that the Citadel is in fact the Lord of all Reapers just seems like it was cobbled together far too late and without any real reason to believe it. To top it all of, we were railroaded into three choices of which I don't see any really decent option. (Chose destroy, already botched peace with the geth and my Shep spent three years aiming to destroy them, sorry EDI, I'm not backing out now)

Everything that followed that was pretty much null and void for me. Why was Joker leaving? He's proven before he wouldn't abandon Shep, hell, he got him killed when he didn't abandon the Normandy. And I firmly believe that, no, the Normandy did NOT crash on a random planet. When it's getting swallowed up by whatever the wave was supposed to be, it looks like it's beginning to disintegrate from the engines forward before it cuts to black. Makes me think that rather than your squad and crew even surviving wasn't given to us, they all died, all with the exception of two fleeing from a battle they'd have never ran from in the first place in all normalcy.

I'll admit, I was hoping for some sort of ending being happy, even if it's considered bittersweet by most. (For reference, happy for me would've been Shep and crew, most definitely love interest get out with half the galaxy burning as long as Rannoch made it. 200 billion's a statistic, I knew and loved the crew, not arbitrary population numbers. Am I a terrible person? Probably.)  To be given only 3 choices, all of which include what I see as the death of every last friend Shep had tore a hole in my spirit. None of the preparations mattered, no relationships mattered: everyone died. No blue children with Liara. No house on the homeworld for Tali. No life for Garrus where everything finally goes consistently right for him for once in his life. 

If it had been constantly set up as there is absolutely no hope of victory, I might have been cool with it, but that's not how it was. For the first two and a half games we were pretty much given hope that the war could be won, horrific in cost, but still could be won. Even going into Earth, the hope was there. Then in an instant, the god-child ripped it all away, and no option left seems like a victory. (Not even getting into the issues I see with the relay network gone, this is getting long enough)

Bittersweet endings can be an excellent thing. Last game that left me dumbfounded was a perfect example, did and still adore that ending despite the fact it's kind of sad. Also ran that game to the grave, must have run  through it 10 times minimum, and being a Zelda title, I must say that is something. With Mass Effect 3..... The ending's heartwrending on a different level. It effectively ruins the rest of the series for me, officially anyway. "It's not the destination, but the journey that matters." Well that may be true, but if I end up fatally stepping on a landmine at the end of said journey, doesn't mean much, does it? (Probably a terrible analogy)

Don't exactly put much faith in us getting any new endings unless this was all just one massive plan, but blind optimism's better than this right now. Plan on sticking around to see this for a while.

Hold the line, men. Keelah Se'lai.

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Guys, please just calm down. Everyone has their own view on the situation and I'll be damned if anyone can ever persuade anyone else to see their own viewpoint while throwing poop around.

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Evening, all.

I'm more of a lurker,but I just wanted to say I'm still sick about the ending(s).

Just keep fighting. For a new ending, for an epilogue, for a happy life with Liara.

Logging me out.

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babachewie wrote...

I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 

You seem to be the one getting defensive here... and actively trying to supress the motivations of others.

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babachewie wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people don't, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.


We've been being civil, please try to be civil as well and not trying to inflame us.

Dude trust me this is me being civil. Civility goes both ways. To spam bioware and their people with hate and bullcrap isnt doin anything and if anybody even hints at liking the ending they get bombarded with people thinking their mental or something. I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 


This is outright untrue. Ok, I take that back, it's not OUTRIGHT untrue, but it is untrue to a massive degree. Anyone saying they like the ending is given a properly civil "We're glad you liked the ending. We're glad you're happy."

All we're doing is voicing our opinion as STRONGLY as we can, and exercising our right to request that Bioware keep true to the promises they made during the entire development of ME3.

So that being said, I respect your opinion that you think this is all for naught. We disagree. And even if it doesn't work out the way we hope, at least we tried.

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Keep it civil anyway.. remember no personal attacks or you'll find yourself banned.. and no one wants that since we need you to hold the line with us! <3

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babachewie wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people don't, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.


We've been being civil, please try to be civil as well and not trying to inflame us.

Dude trust me this is me being civil. Civility goes both ways. To spam bioware and their people with hate and bullcrap isnt doin anything and if anybody even hints at liking the ending they get bombarded with people thinking their mental or something. I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 


I haven't spammed anyone, and I'm sure there's a large number of people on here who haven't either.

If you had said something along the lines of,"I liked the ending, and I think they did a great job."  you probably wouldn't have people bothering you now.  Just saying.

Still, it is inexcusible for people to be harrassing the devs; they either miscalculated, or have something up their sleeves.

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FOCUS UP. He has is his opinion and so do we, let him have it and ignore his posts if they bother you but do not get into an argument with him, it diminishes our entire movement and our chances.

Also: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9845819

GO.HERE. It's our page for the donations to Childs Play, a way for us to gain Positive reputation and to show we aren't petulant selfish whiners and to help a worthy charity, aid our cause and aid other gamers. More information on the charity is in that thread, so hurry, go,read, comment! Soon the donation will be available, done by a reputable service known as ChipIn. We've talked the talk but now? Now it's time we walk the walk, you all know me, I post only to try and keep the thread focused well now Im directing you at a new form of garnering support for us and lowering the chances of being brushed off.

HOLD THE LINE MY FRIENDS.

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Darkspazztic wrote...

Guys, please just calm down. Everyone has their own view on the situation and I'll be damned if anyone can ever persuade anyone else to see their own viewpoint while throwing poop around.


Not a single one of us is trying to convince him he's wrong. Not one of us are telling him that he shouldn't enjoy the ending he got. He's the only one being aggressive here.

It's like we're all at a cocktail party, and they serve us all anchovies. 30,000 of us hate anchovies, and complain, or at least ask for a different dish. One guy loves anchovies, but instead of being happy and eating them, he decides he needs to run around the dining hall screaming wildly
"WTF U IDIOTS DONT LIEK ANCHOVIES WELL TOO BAD ITS ALL YOU GET WTF GIVE IT UP IDC IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE THEY GAVE US ANCHOVIES JUST STFU"

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infinitekilan wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

babachewie wrote...

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video Colin is right. You're all absurd. Nothing will come from this. I'm glad I loved the ending. Sucks you people don't, but this isn't gonna change nothing. So use all the Captain Kirrahe quotes you want, make FB pages, spam twitter and call and rally the troops blah blah blah!!...its over. Get over it.


We've been being civil, please try to be civil as well and not trying to inflame us.

Dude trust me this is me being civil. Civility goes both ways. To spam bioware and their people with hate and bullcrap isnt doin anything and if anybody even hints at liking the ending they get bombarded with people thinking their mental or something. I'm not trying to flame anybody. But there are two sides to this. Not just yours. I get that people dont like it and I get why, but its to late. You must know this is futile. 


This is outright untrue. Ok, I take that back, it's not OUTRIGHT untrue, but it is untrue to a massive degree. Anyone saying they like the ending is given a properly civil "We're glad you liked the ending. We're glad you're happy."

All we're doing is voicing our opinion as STRONGLY as we can, and exercising our right to request that Bioware keep true to the promises they made during the entire development of ME3.

So that being said, I respect your opinion that you think this is all for naught. We disagree. And even if it doesn't work out the way we hope, at least we tried.


I can't remember who said it. But a wise man once said "It is better to have tried and failed, than to never have tried at all." This applies here. Now please, let's move on and focus on why we're in this thread. If you support this movement, please go here: 
http://social.biowar...45819/1#9846241  and submit your donation. This will not only help an amazing cherity, it will bring good publicity and notice on our movement.

Modifié par Eirileth, 13 mars 2012 - 02:53 .


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Adding my voice to the thousands: What Bioware has done is completely unacceptable, but I am not very hopeful that they will change the ending. I'm never buying another Bioware game.

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Mass Effect as a whole - The games, books and comics have easily taken up weeks if not months of my life, which when you compare to every other piece of entertainment out there (Besides MMO's for some people) is the biggest, longest running piece of fiction for me. To get to the end, after all of this time. To have it basicly, be some form of Hypocritical, Choice ignoring, Story Changing(not sure if this is true) piece of crap that it is is leaving such a horrible horrible bitter taste in my mouth.

Up until ME3 was released I would of stated hand on heart that everything ME related (not inlcuding the last book which had so many flaws in it I could of cried) had easily been the best series I have ever played and may never be beaten. But now with the way it ended it leaves me wondering - Have I wasted my time?

The answer is no...just : The games and books and stories have been fantastic. The ending - Like everything else ive fell in love with (such as Eragon and those books) have left me empty and void and become some form of lackluster rollercoaster.

the end of ME3 has ruined everything. Every choice, every question, everything, undone :'(

Bioware - Shame on you.

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This whole thing is so utterly embarrassing. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Disgusting.

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DifferentD17 wrote...

Did any one post this yet? Sorry I just got on an didn't see it for a couple pages.

kotaku.com/5892676/why-mass-effect-3s-ending-was-so-terrible


I agree to an extent, the ending writing is bad no doubt in my mind. Unless it is a dream... then that sucks and we still don't have an ending.


I guess Kotaku realized after belittling our cause and singing high prasises over the ending in 3 different articles, they would finally let someone else put in the other side.

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neftones wrote...

This whole thing is so utterly embarrassing. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Disgusting.


Thanks. We'll take that opinion into consideration.

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disappoint...... both last mission and ending
and for the ending the scene that normady crash is WTF moment

i can understand that scene if that ultra powerful beam destroy everything and normady try to escape (the ending that earth is destroyed) don't understand why they try to add that scene in every ending

and galactic readiness <==> ultra beam destroy earth or not
something weird..... feel like they rush the final mission

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Kloborgg711 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Guys, please just calm down. Everyone has their own view on the situation and I'll be damned if anyone can ever persuade anyone else to see their own viewpoint while throwing poop around.


Not a single one of us is trying to convince him he's wrong. Not one of us are telling him that he shouldn't enjoy the ending he got. He's the only one being aggressive here.

It's like we're all at a cocktail party, and they serve us all anchovies. 30,000 of us hate anchovies, and complain, or at least ask for a different dish. One guy loves anchovies, but instead of being happy and eating them, he decides he needs to run around the dining hall screaming wildly
"WTF U IDIOTS DONT LIEK ANCHOVIES WELL TOO BAD ITS ALL YOU GET WTF GIVE IT UP IDC IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE THEY GAVE US ANCHOVIES JUST STFU"

You are completely right.  I'm just trying to preemptively defuse a potential situation.

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neftones wrote...

This whole thing is so utterly embarrassing. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Disgusting.


Not sure if talking to Bioware, or us...

Either way, it's incredibly rude. Uncalled for.