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[Paparob]

Well I've talked to a few Bioware people via PM here and they seem to be hinting they've got something planned, at least for the squad mates. It soothes my confusion a bit.

[Annaleah]

k8ee wrote...

hahahah YES! Love Hyperbole and a half!

[Nathos]

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."

Garrus... how someone could not like him?

[Darkspazztic]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

To be honest I'm choosing the ending where Liara and I hijack the Normandy and fly off into the solar sunset.

Lol I don't know how you can steal your own ship.

Well it takes skill, patience, and a little bit of jettisonning everyone else out in their escape pods.

[Eirileth]

Nathos wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."

Garrus... how someone could not like him?

Garrus is the best possible example of a bro. I could do anything if I had someone like Garrus at my back.

[DifferentD17]

CronoDragoon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I'm certainly not going to buy any Bioware or EA game/dlc now. I don't see how they can treat their customers like this. So many factors contribute to what why they aren't treating their fans well.

I don't know, this makes it sound like they released the ending knowing it sucked. Like it was something nefarious. More than likely they were just too close to the project to see the quality of the ending objectively, as often happens with creators of some story. It's just amazing to me that they somehow managed a 99% success rate and then ran out of magic at the end.

It feels like that yes, but they haven't said anything which is unfortunate... and people are really really sad and disappointed. I feel I had it easy I was sad and disappointed, but I'm not about to have to leave or do something I really don't want to do and ME3 was the last fun I was going to have. I've heard some people say things like that.

[eternalnightmare13]

I liked the endings.

[Darkspazztic]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

I liked the endings.

Glad you enjoyed them.  All we're trying to do here is get a few additional ones that suit our choices.  You're welcome to join in the discussion.

[Auralius Carolus]

Once again, due to the massive nature of posts, I apologise if this has been posted before.

http://venturebeat.c...-mass-effect-3/

Another "atypical" review that points out the bizarre, nigh scandelous issues of ME3 while not forgetting that it has some truly outstanding points.

[illutian]

CaptnObvious wrote...
and some really not useful dialogues. Except the LI's, always nice...

Only things I like was Joker and EDI..

"I then called him on his bull**** [..]" 

[CaptnObvious]

Eirileth wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."

Garrus... how someone could not like him?

Garrus is the best possible example of a bro. I could do anything if I had someone like Garrus at my back.

Yeah! Garrus is AWESOME! Just always chillin out in the shade of Shep. Well until he got promoted by the Turian hiearchy.
That's why i was sad my Male Shep couldn't romance Garrus. Am i the only one who thought of the hilarious interactions that might've give? Though i suppose it would've pissed some gay people or whatnot.

[sfam]

Just got done...was an amazing game...up until the last 15 minutes or so (I include the idiotic "try to get to the beam" sequence here). To me the ending really feels rushed. Its like they didn't have the time to do it the way they wanted, so they got pissed of and defaulted to three silly choices - I say silly because the colors totally don't line up. The path the Illusive Man wants in Blue??? Really??

In short, it seems clear that BioWare broke faith with their most loyal fans here. We were led to believe that our choices throughout three series would be reflected in most awesome endings, but nothing of the sort occurred.

Just as bad, we are left with what possibly is some obscure, unexplained philosophical point on the part of the game designers, when NOTHING in the three games was anything of the sort. The rest of the three games were more like an intelligent scifi novel. Best case is they tried to pull off a 2001 Space Odyssey type philosophically weird ending and totally blew it. But my money is they were rushed and just defaulted to something horrid (as opposed to the "something wonderful" line in Space Odyssey).

That said, because the rest of the game was wonderful, I still feel like I got my money's worth.  I may even play through again, but will probably stop at the beam.  I just feel sorta bad for BioWare because 10 years later, this most awesome game series will now be remembered for the farce of an ending by virtually everyone in the gaming industry, fans and professionals alike.  It will be a universal warning of what not to do.   

Modifié par sfam, 13 mars 2012 - 03:18 .

[Surprise Guest]

Losing the all the mass relays was something I assumed would happen and does make sense, but It'd be nice to have some sort of silver lining in that perhaps it did only target the reapers, or there could be a chance of survival and reuniting with loved ones. Actually I'm pretty sure I'd be alright with the sacrifice and current endings if it didn't have those bloody scenes with the normandy and planet landing. Either a happy ending, an emotionally moving ending or a thought provoking ending would have made the series. Instead I feel like it ended on a horribly awkward, unresolute and emotionally stale scene that I wish I could forget.

[infinitekilan]

Yeah... we're about to hit 900 pages. That's over 100 pages in under 24 hours.

Plus 34,000+ votes for "we need a new ending" in the poll, compared to just under 800 for "the endings are fine"... kinda hard to describe the weight of those numbers, but to say the least, it's incredible.

[netarchy]

Nathos wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."

Garrus... how someone could not like him?

I didn't like Garrus at first in ME1. He kinda grew on me in successive plays, and rocked in ME2.

[DifferentD17]

cotheer wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Meteor_VII wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Did any one post this yet? Sorry I just got on an didn't see it for a couple pages.

kotaku.com/5892676/why-mass-effect-3s-ending-was-so-terrible


I agree to an extent, the ending writing is bad no doubt in my mind. Unless it is a dream... then that sucks and we still don't have an ending.

I also agree to an extent but am so happy that FINALLY someone in the MEDIA agrees with us instead of the boiler plate .... "Yea the ending was fine"

I don't understand why no one else cares about such a bad ending that makes it so your choices don't matter.

Do you really think those people even tried to understand the story? How many of them know what the mass effect is?
The point is, gamers today are mostly "pew pew headshot" and couldn't care less about a story. And those kind of people BW is trying (and unfortunatelly, successfully) to attract to play their games.
IGN staff is full of those douches.

Yeah I've seen alot of comments like: " I liked Mass Effect 3, but I never played 1 and 2 " So you don't know anything about ME really....

[Computim]

@ALaggyHost @masseffect I wonder if there is anyone out there who actually understood & liked the #ME3 Ending along with me. @bioware

Mass Effect‏@masseffect:
@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

twitter.com/#!/masseffect

Looks like they've made their choice. Not sure if their latest thing is to try to call us "mainstream" haha. I don't know but if everyone around me tells me my sculpture that I hadn't finished the nose on is "absolutely incredible best sculpture evar"...then add "except for the nose". I'd probably fix the nose... not yell out "It is the nose you're getting" and sit down in a huff lol.

Modifié par Computim, 13 mars 2012 - 03:17 .

[CronoDragoon]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

I liked the endings.

Happy for you, no sarcasm. I really wish I did. I was a philosophy major in college, and I tend to enjoy sad endings, but I just can't get on board with these. I even want them to keep these endings as they are perfect "bad endings" ie endings you get if you didn't play the game well enough. 

[revaew]

is it bad if i tried to start up ME1, and as i started creating my Shepard, i felt an overwhelming feeling of "pointlessness and/or unmotivated" ?

[DifferentD17]

Computim wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

To be honest I'm choosing the ending where Liara and I hijack the Normandy and fly off into the solar sunset.

Lol I don't know how you can steal your own ship.

The final scene with Liara I had she asked that basically, alluding that a ship could get lost in it all, could go off and live out the rest of their days in quiet.... trouble is the options were only "I'm happy where I'm at right now" and "I need some time alone".  I couldn't say I needed time alone.. Liara was my future wife and mother of my little blue shadow broker babies hahaha.

A family of super smart LiaraXShepards? Best shadow brokers ever.

[Ishiken]

Eirileth wrote...

Ishiken wrote...

There is a reason why PR and marketing departments are paid so much in a lot of industries. Perception is very important in every business. There are a lot of fans that are very unhappy with the Mass Effect ending and I dare say that the amount of posts and attacks on Bioware are even greater than the Dragon Age 2 ending. Bioware could decide to just ignore the problem and hope that it goes away, but they won't. If say 20% of fans absolutely abhor the ending and 50% of those fans decide to never buy Bioware games anymore. That's a 10% revenue loss and that amounts to well over millions of dollars lost. The Bioware team has to deal with this problem either through PR or through a DLC. The fans that are still posting and keeping these threads going are getting the attention of bloggers and eventually those blog posts will draw the attention of "official gaming sites". It's a dominoes effect and eventually Bioware is going to lose a lot of credibility if they don't deal with this problem.

I tried, as a show of good faith, to send both Mike Gamble and Chris Priestly tweets telling them that, even though I disliked the endings, I still saw the game as a whole as a master piece. But they ignored those messages. Mass Effect is my favorite game series. Honestly, before I found it five years ago, I was in a very bad place emotionally. Mass Effect gave me an escape that no other media could. The control, the massive universe and lore. She characters that are so easy to love. All of it was amazing and almost immediately cheered me up. I have been playing this series ever since, a faithful fan. I LOVED Mass Effect 3. Everything about it was perfect. Up until I got to the ending. Everything after the reaper beam perplexed me and confused me. This is not the kind of ending a Mass Effect game is supposed to have... My decisions, from all three games, had no bearing on the ending. I was forced to accept three endings that were pre written. The only difference between them is the minor changes made by how many war assests you get and how high your Galactic Readiness is. They took the closure away from me. Took what made Mass Effect unique away in the very end.

Mass Effect 3 was beautiful. It is only the endings that I do not like. This series is important to me. I don't want to see it end like this. Keelah Se'lai. Don't lose hope. There will be a better tomorrow.

In my opinion, Mass Effect 3 had the best gameplay out of the entire series and a great storyline until the ending. It was very enjoyable for me until Shepard got hit by the Reaper beam and then it all went haywire. The best comparison that I can think is if after Da Vinci finish painting the Mona Lisa, he suddenly decided that she needed a giant mole on her nose to make the painting seem more real. The journey is very important, but it's the ending that makes people want to relive the journey and not the other way around. The ending for Mass Effect 3 left a very bad impression for a lot of loyal fans and those loyal fans are the ones that are willing to preorder a Bioware game due to their trust in the Bioware brand. Without those loyal fans, Bioware loses a lot of bargaining chips in any business deal with a gaming publisher since the "fanboys" are the ones that are keeping their big paychecks from dwindling.

[N7 Theo]

infinitekilan wrote...

Yeah... we're about to hit 900 pages. That's over 100 pages in under 24 hours.

Plus 34,000+ votes for "we need a new ending" in the poll, compared to just under 800 for "the endings are fine"... kinda hard to describe the weight of those numbers, but to say the least, it's incredible.

At this point I am expecting BioWare to look at the 800 people and say, "Looks like we did a great job boys."

[VyRianS]

revaew wrote...

is it bad if i tried to start up ME1, and as i started creating my Shepard, i felt an overwhelming feeling of "pointlessness and/or unmotivated" ?

We can totally relate. Tried a second playthrough using FemShep today. Made it into the Mars Base and gave up.

[Computim]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Computim wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

To be honest I'm choosing the ending where Liara and I hijack the Normandy and fly off into the solar sunset.

Lol I don't know how you can steal your own ship.

The final scene with Liara I had she asked that basically, alluding that a ship could get lost in it all, could go off and live out the rest of their days in quiet.... trouble is the options were only "I'm happy where I'm at right now" and "I need some time alone".  I couldn't say I needed time alone.. Liara was my future wife and mother of my little blue shadow broker babies hahaha.

A family of super smart LiaraXShepards? Best shadow brokers ever.

Exactly!  I had a lineage to think about!.. my REAL legend rofl.

[sumo390]

CaptnObvious wrote...

The more i think about the game, the worst it gets IMO.

First time i played it, it was truly awesome. 10/10. Then, the ending. I just couldnt believe how of a cheapshot that was. I know i might sound horrible, but i laughed at the scene when the child dies. I felt they were just trying TOO much to get to my heart. Also, my Shep was a War Hero, why isn't it his mother or something that dies. THAT would've been marking. But seeing some random kid? He probably saw a few thousands during the Batarian war... That didn't make any sense.

Then the fact that the Stargazers are walking in a forest, talking about the story, and OH SURPRISE your dream sequences are in some random forest, walking at night, with a child...

Also, i didnt feel the RPG side anymore. It was mostly a shooter, with Crying Moments, and some really not useful dialogues. Except the LI's, always nice...

It takes a special kind of bad ending to kill any desire of starting a new game.