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[Kuranai3]

So, any news from BW?

[Eirileth]

The people who are good at making these signature images we are using. Could one of you please send me a PM? I have a request.

[illutian]

Larask wrote...

B33ker wrote...

achtung_s_funtapaz wrote...

Better endings will be $10 DLC.

Mark my words.

And the minute we pay for it, EA wins and we still lose by supporting this sort of marketing BS.

Free DLC to fix it would be a win for us, but if we have to pay, then we're just paying more money to people who screwed it up in the first place which is a bad thing imho.

the problem is that there will still be many that will pay for it, even if they don't like the idea. The satisfaction of seeing Shepard's story come to a proper closure will drive people to do it. Like indoctrination, it will be the salvation. lol

Why, it'll be up on Youtube within the hour.

[B33ker]

N7 Theo wrote...

B33ker wrote...

achtung_s_funtapaz wrote...

Better endings will be $10 DLC.

Mark my words.

And the minute we pay for it, EA wins and we still lose by supporting this sort of marketing BS.

Free DLC to fix it would be a win for us, but if we have to pay, then we're just paying more money to people who screwed it up in the first place which is a bad thing imho.

But everyone will still buy the DLC. And they know that.

And this is the exact reason why we as consumers have absolutely no power over the crap companies keep selling us.

To make a REAL stand, we'd have to not buy any DLC at all, even if it was to "fix" the ending.  Otherwise, you're just giving EA more reason to do the same thing all over again, and again.......

[Tainan7509]

Ivon wrote...

Tainan7509 wrote...

Ivon wrote...

Tainan7509 wrote...

In my opinion, after my first playthrough and half way through my second, i have been thinking about the ending choices. I prefer synthesis over destroy at the end due to the fact seeing so many conflict between each races and organic life vs machine. The Catalyst was right to this point; however, i disagree with its decision about "bring order to chaos" by harvesting organic life before they reach the stage of what The Catalyst call " the conflict b/w creators and created" Destroy it will result another chaos in the future and Control it does not really solve the problem at all either. Therefore, the only best choice which our lovely Bioware gave us is "synthesis"
Just my preference.

Going with this is all just a "knocked unconscious" dream.

Red: Reapers prove Organics will eventually destroy Synths
Blue: Organics will seek to enslave Synths
Green: Organics are truly willing to co-exist

In either one you still wake up where the Red one shows you (under debris).
Red: You keep fighting
Blue: You keep fighting
Green: Reapers leave and decide to "watch" things develope

Yeah i think all three choices are understandable and reasonable, but it is just lack of some good closure for this long series ME 1 to 3 and i believe i still want to find out what will happen after synthesis and other two choices. The choices at the end are not the issue. The real problem is lack of good closure for each choice. 

nonono, I mean that if the "ending" we all played wasn't the 'real' ending. And we all will wake up under rubble (like in the Red Choice). And based on what 'choice' we made in the dreamstate the reapers will either keep fighting or leave.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, when 'we' first encountered the Dominion. They put the Defiant crew into a dreamstate to 'test' these unknown lifeforms and how they would react.

The Reapers could be doing the same thing. Shep could be seen as the "typical" organic. And they're testing to see what the organics will do. Because...this one is different.

Well, we can't base on this assumption to conclude the result. 
There is no solid evidence in the game to prove that. However, if that is ture, then every decision i made in the game will change dramatically. anyway

[FinalEndeavor]

CaptnObvious wrote...

Sywen wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

 

I was waiting for this one lol

Don't laugh, that guy's gonna be head writer for ME4: WE'RE ALL ALIENS.

Win^^

[KaiserinKai]

Eirileth wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Something I've learned being in a huge financial business, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil." Or as Garrus puts is, "Yell loud enough and someone will eventually come over and see what all the fuss is about."

Garrus... how someone could not like him?

Garrus is the best possible example of a bro. I could do anything if I had someone like Garrus at my back.

For us female gamers, he's a wonderful LI~

I cried when he wasn't romancable in the first ME and was so happy when I could in the second and third.

[Walrusninja]

I was disgusted with what happened after I made my choice. After that, it doesn't matter what choices you made. Where exactly was the Normandy going? Also, I chose to preserve the relays and they still exploded ..... then Ash was magically all better and back on the ship. Seriously. I loved that I sacrificed myself for them but that wasn't even an ending. What happened to my friends did the others survive?

That end was a bad trip that made no sense. Unless you fix it Bioware ,make SOME effort to fix the end of your masterpiece in a way that does you credit, you can take DLC, games, anything else you ever make and shove it up your ass.

Modifié par Walrusninja, 13 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[BooMorpheus]

Kotaku has an article on the endings.
http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/

[RussianOrc]

Sywen wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

 

I was waiting for this one lol

no kidding, history channel will probably make a 2h especial trying to explain this ending.

[Teleraine]

I voiced my support oh round page 600 lol but lets go again

I for one am disappointed and saddened that the ending was like this and fervently hope something is in the works to give more options then are present currently to those who want it.

In a business sense not all Publicity is good though it does focus people on your product or debate. and I 'll agree some people say any publicity is good. Revenue gained with happy customer is measured in life value - meaning that if your happy and satisfied with the product then you will keep buying for as long as you are maybe for as long as you are alive/company exists and will mention this to 1-2 friends. On the opposite side a unhappy customer will nearly always be extremely hard to sway back and will discuss and share their unhappy experience with 5-10 people or more. It is just a fact that unhappy people are more vocal and this costs companies money if allowed to carry on that's why so many retailers are focusing on good customer service these days.

I would like to say that those who harass devs are a disappointment but so are those that harass people with legitimate concerns.

Attacking them in an abusive manner with the intent to wound verbally I would not defend.

Treat people how you want to be treated and respect their beliefs and what they care for be it big or small you can disagree with them all you want but respect people enough to be civil.

[Auralius Carolus]

Annaleah wrote...

Yeah making this stuff costs time and money... if we demand free DLC then that just makes us look even more entitled.

In my day, being ancient at the age of 24, you replaced products free of charge if they're lousy or DOA. It's called good customer relations. And for those of us who have spent well over $100s on the games, DLC, merchendise, etc. it is not entitlement; it's securing a quality product on par with the expectations born of the merit of the company.

[Jorojr]

I've been putting off playing Skyrim and a Scoia'tael play through of The Witcher 2. I opted to do a full play through of ME 1 and ME 2 in anticipation of ME 3 instead. Well, for 99% of ME 3, it was a great decision. I hope BioWare makes this right somehow.

[ExileArin]

I finished the game Wednesday night and (im)patiently waited for RL friends to finish. The first did on Friday afternoon. He knew I was unhappy, but I didn't spoil it. The first thing he text me was that it was horribly done, but not as bad as I'd made it out to be. Today, he text me to say that the more he thought about it, the angrier he got.

[Dj14365]

Rosery99 wrote...

We are winning and we know it, the suddenly troll attacks, the way Bioware is trying to dismiss and demoralize us or so it seems with some of there Twitter remarks. I think...they know we're not just going to go away, the sales are hurting now. Hold The Line everyone, I feel...like victory might just be in sight.

In regards to their sales hurting, earlier today when I first saw some of the numbers that are being thrown around I wanted to see just how much BW stands to lose if they don't appease us. To find this out I did some math cuz I'm weird like that. Just looking at the 30k from the one poll if 5 dlc packs at 10 bucks a pop are released along with the physical merchandise BW would lose any where from about 1.6-2 million dollars (I'll spare you the half page of calculations that got me those numbers). Now this is my speculation about there fiscal loses and I'm not going into how that would transfer to the other million or so who bought the game but that could add up to some serious cash. Hold the line if this forum doesn't get them thinking hopefully their greed will.

[CronoDragoon]

infinitekilan wrote...

I agree, and I disagree. It all depends on what is actually going on behind the scenes. If this is all just a marketing ploy, then yes, EA wins. However, if this is a massive misinterpretation of how  the fans would react, and it is decided that a team needs to get together to put together new endings, we honestly can't expect them not to get paid for their work(however, it is my belief that EA should pay out of their own coffers, since we shouldn't have to pay for their mistakes). Yes, there are grey areas between these 2 extremes, but the point is still there.

Actually, this wouldn't be EA's mistake but Bioware's. EA didn't make the ending. And I don't want to punish Bioware! They made what they thought was a satisfying, thought-provoking ending. They were horribly, horribly wrong in this, but there's nothing evil about it. Portal 2 DLC consists of 1 VA and whoever goes and designs the levels. If Bioware does new endings, I want all the voice actors back, I want cutscenes, I want an epic final boss battle. And that will cost no small amount of money. They will have to charge if only to cover their costs. Do I care if I pay $90 instead of 80$ for this game? I mean goddamn I've paid $60 for games like FF13, even with this horrible ending I got my money's worth, but it just doesn't feel right or complete.

[Computim]

RussianOrc wrote...

Sywen wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

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I was waiting for this one lol

no kidding, history channel will probably make a 2h especial trying to explain this ending.

Discovery Channel already has one.. it's got planes crashing and stuff.. it's called "Mayday"

Modifié par Computim, 13 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Darkspazztic]

http://cheezburger.c...d7-bf5eb38c4b3e

Modifié par Darkspazztic, 13 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[allyon]

 I work full time at a restaurant within walking distance of both a Game Stop and Wal-mart. Several of my regulars knew that I was taking off both Tuesday and Wednesday of last week so I could play this game. They knew how excited I was that this game was coming. They may have lol'ed at my exuberance but knew that it meant a lot to me. I'm not some youngish child that they could easily dismiss. I'm 31 yrs. old and working on my masters in biology. Yea its hard to work full time and get my masters, so time off hurts me. I returned to work on Saturday knowing some had seen my Facebook post on how I stopped midway threw my game Wednesday night. After I stumbled upon the "3" color coded endings I could not even bring myself to complete the game. Needless to say with my close proximity to both stores I have let my unhappiness show over the ending of Mass Effect 3. I have also enlightened several people who had yet to purchase the game.   Many people are unable to grasp (my regular customers) my depression  but know that it has effected me on a personal level.  My SWTOR is up for renewal the 27th of this month. I cant even bring myself to play any game at this moment. Know this. If we have heard nothing or a complete lack of care by Bioware consider my account cancled and any future purchases nule and void. I cant say any planer than that.

Modifié par allyon, 13 mars 2012 - 03:54 .

[Razgriz9327]

I have to agree... demanding that it be free makes us sound entitled... depending on the complexity of the DLC, it could cost significant amounts... voice actors are not cheap, even concept art takes time and resources... I understand what you are saying about not wanting to support bad decisions, but we are also asking for something that arguably has never been done before... We need to show that we are willing to meet Bioware halfway here. That being said, Bioware/EA should do there best to limit the cost to the consumer, because if there is any appearance of price gouging, they lose

[The Big Palooka]

From Jessica Merizan's twitter (not linked because I have brain problems and don't know how to link a specific tweet):

John Wehr  ‏ @Ozai75
@JessicaMerizan I feel truly unsatisfied by the ending, tbh. There is no falling action, in a narrative sense. Hope that's not it for ME

Jessica Merizan   @JessicaMerizan
@Ozai75 not to be cheeky but....

What?  No.  Stop it.  Stop that.  WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WINKY FACE, WHAT IS THAT EVEN

[Kuranai3]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

Yeah making this stuff costs time and money... if we demand free DLC then that just makes us look even more entitled.

In my day, being ancient at the age of 24, you replaced products free of charge if they're lousy or DOA. It's called good customer relations. And for those of us who have spent well over $100s on the games, DLC, merchendise, etc. it is not entitlement; it's securing a quality product on par with the expectations born of the merit of the company.

This ^

[Bruinbear]

Wow...I wish the power went out or my motherboard fried so I had never finished this game. It is a little embarassing to admit, but I honestly had a hard time sleeping last night I was so dissapointed. After years of invested time, I can say that I love the ME universe...I even read the books just to delve deeper into it. To get a conclusion where none of my choices or work mattered was depressing. Anything I did or choose (collectively in all three games) effectively spliters the universal community. That community is what truly shined (for me) in the lore you created. I wont even get into the vague conclusion for all the characters I have gotten to know and care about...

Seeing a universe come together to achieve something amazing was a great story...then the last cutscene happened. You may say I want a Disney ending. However, the way I look at it is if I want a splintered, bitter, reality all I have to do is turn on the news. I play games and read to escape from that. Please Bioware, give one of my favorite scifi cannons a chance to end with some measure of happiness. Despite the recent changes in modern day storytelling, I feel it is ok to walk away with a smile sometimes.

[Kezza]

 I saw this today and I found it quite interesting tell me what you think of it. Also if it has already been posted a dozen times I am sorry

[DrNegative]

Saw this in their Twitter: