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[Rosery99]

Lots of us wish for happy endings. But all of us would at least be HAPPIER with some kind of closure and coherent narrative that made some semblance of sense. With luck they give us a few new choices.

[Esker02]

TheFoxBlade wrote...

Except we really don't want a happier ending, just one true to the core mechanics of the game - dialogue choice. It could be filled with Shepard dying alone in a ditch while his/her LI just finished cheating on him/her, so long as it made sense with the choice up until that point

Not to cause a schism in our little movement here, but I think that part of what we're fighting for is meaningful choice, viz, disparate endings in addition to coherent ones. I for one DO want a happier ending as an, admittedly difficult to obtain, possible ending. Shepard deserves it just as much as the ME universe deserves more than "lol relays went boom sorry about that."

That said, I do agree that merely saying our issue is that the ending was too sad doesn't quite get at the many layers of disappointment that the ending represents.

Modifié par Esker02, 13 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[The Big Palooka]

Darkspazztic wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...
If Bioware had made me feel this strongly about an ending I liked, they could conquer the world with me
at their feet.  As it is, slightly less willing to do that atm, although my affections can be bought back, Bioware, if you're listening.

Mine too.  I'm a **** for good endings, just FYI.

THIS.  Don't even care anymore.  I want Shepard to have some freaking medals and some freaking babies  and a little pickety-fence house with a freaking adorable fat puppy in the front yard and a porch swing  and a freshly-baked freaking pie cooling on the freaking windowsill.

[Darth Garrus]

I think BW is just thinking: "it's just the shock from first impression, they will be over it, and in one month, everybody will be playing it again, and ready to buy our next game".

But no, it's just not it. I had disappointments before. It's just bad endings, really. People are not as stupid or naive as some think. They understand bad endings when they see them. And after all we played on the series, these endings are worst than it.

I had a bad first impression when ME2 changed a lot from ME1. But I was over it in the second planet. And really loved it later on. Didn't complaint about it after I played. Oh, no. I played lots of times after it. But I see no reason to play ME3 or any other from the series. I just know the endings are pathetic and ruins everything I did before.

[Walrusninja]

Going to contact my older bro, perhaps right now (4:59 AM) here, and make sure he doesn't buy the game until a proper ending is in place. His life is tough right now, I know he ADORES Mass Effect and can't wait, but that ending man, as daft as it may sound, I wouldn't wish that kick in the teeth on anyone especially family.

[Auralius Carolus]

Ampmaster wrote...

We've all been kinda upset, so here's the space hamster on shore leave.



don't you feel better now?

My mind is in shambles right now. I have attempted to visualize the final battle over Earth, plus Space Hamsters. Normally this would seem absurd, but...

[SassyJazRzmataz]

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

 My cousin came over and asked what I'd been up to this week. Poor girl didn't know the can of worms she was opening. I then went on a 20 minute long rant about the ending. I thought I had reached some sort of acceptance with the ending by pretending it doesn't exist but apparently not. 
She then preceded to complain about some sort of panda bear expansion for WOW. I told her if I had been given a 4th panda option I would have taken it. To mangle a Spaced quote, "The star child makes the ewokes look like *bleeping* shaft." 

lol I spent the afternoon with my mom Sunday and I pretty much just talked about ME3 and how sad I was.  I was laughing about it so she wasn't worried.  I'm 39 years old married mom of 3 and it makes me feel silly.

I can't shake how depressing this makes me.

I know right? I was talking to my non-gamer sister about how hurt I felt. I was actually surprised that she listened to me and tried making me feel better. I don't feel bad that I'm a grown woman who is mad at the ending of a video game. Not while seeing all of you guys feeling the same way.

[Walrusninja]

Agreed Darth. Bioware need to realise, it's not a case of "shock" or "not quite what I wanted". The ending makes no sense! It also doesn't conclude ANYTHING. That view won't go away, but fans will.

[Rosery99]

Darth Suetam wrote...

I think BW is just thinking: "it's just the shock from first impression, they will be over it, and in one month, everybody will be playing it again, and ready to buy our next game".

But no, it's just not it. I had disappointments before. It's just bad endings, really. People are not as stupid or naive as some think. They understand bad endings when they see them. And after all we played on the series, these endings are worst than it.

I had a bad first impression when ME2 changed a lot from ME1. But I was over it in the second planet. And really loved it later on. Didn't complaint about it after I played. Oh, no. I played lots of times after it. But I see no reason to play ME3 or any other from the series. I just know the endings are pathetic and ruins everything I did before.

This is key my friend. If we hear nothing in a week, two weeks and so forth. WE MUST hold the line, even if it takes month, we must be prepared for a very long haul, keep coming back, keep posting, keep letting BW know that this won't stand and we are not going away, not now, not until they fix it or shut down the forums. It's what it may take.

Hold The Line.

[CaptnObvious]

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

 My cousin came over and asked what I'd been up to this week. Poor girl didn't know the can of worms she was opening. I then went on a 20 minute long rant about the ending. I thought I had reached some sort of acceptance with the ending by pretending it doesn't exist but apparently not. 
She then preceded to complain about some sort of panda bear expansion for WOW. I told her if I had been given a 4th panda option I would have taken it. To mangle a Spaced quote, "The star child makes the ewokes look like *bleeping* shaft." 

lol I spent the afternoon with my mom Sunday and I pretty much just talked about ME3 and how sad I was.  I was laughing about it so she wasn't worried.  I'm 39 years old married mom of 3 and it makes me feel silly.

I can't shake how depressing this makes me.

Thats one thing that really impresses me about the badness of the endings: it breaks age, stereotypes and all of that and units everyone under its awful depressive effects.
Sywen, im 19 and i did the same thing,except it was morning and before going to my psychology class. Lot's are people are thoroughly affected by those games, or rather the endings of the third that breaks the while serie.

[K0M154R]

Darth Suetam wrote...

I never thought I would be doing this. Complaining in a web forum. No offense. But those endings were THAT bad. A shame, really. I don't feel like playing these games again. And I was hoping some epic endings, to be able to play from 1 through 3 again. But doesn't make sense anymore.

I am geuinely curious what all their data gathering systems tell them. I'm positively certain they'll see everyone starts a game, but scant few start another. Must be saddening?

I have 6 different distinct characters in ME2 whom I started from little embryos in ME1 all ready and suited up to join the fight in ME3, but they'll be spending the rest of their days visiting terminals on the Shadow Broker's ship, getting free eezo, creepin Jack's dossier, and watching ShadowTube clips with Feron. O___O

[kramerfan86]

lol what a shocker, you mean IGN, the company with an employee IN the game isnt quite sympathetic to being critical of bioware?

And on the happy ending front I think one should be an option if you go in with fairly considerable readiness, just like a more tragic one should be available if you dont. Running the gambit of options to me is the way mass effect should be, choices matter, you make it into your own vision.

Once again though Im not counting on a "fix", so Im just headconing my own ending and turning off the game at the appropriate time for my ending if i so choose to play again someday in the future.

[Darth Garrus]

There´s a thread about regretting playing the series. I don't regret it! I regret seen these poor excuses for endings. A developer said in an interview that they wouldn't make a "Lost" ending. Well, maybe they didn't. But they did a "Highlander 2" ending, one that ruins the previous stories. You do everything, make lots of choices, and comes down to some bad minutes of endings. Pity.

[Vynar Drace]

I don't get the people yelling about us being entitled. First, you are allowed to criticize work, and second, they sold us a product. Perhaps the most important part of the product was incomplete and directly contrary to what we were promised when they took our money. If you are sold something different than what you asked for, you can have an issue.

[Gamer Genocider]

BioWare, make new ending or I make personal Reapers to end organic life through video game ending evolution.

[Eumerin]

SassyJazRzmataz wrote...

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

 My cousin came over and asked what I'd been up to this week. Poor girl didn't know the can of worms she was opening. I then went on a 20 minute long rant about the ending. I thought I had reached some sort of acceptance with the ending by pretending it doesn't exist but apparently not. 
She then preceded to complain about some sort of panda bear expansion for WOW. I told her if I had been given a 4th panda option I would have taken it. To mangle a Spaced quote, "The star child makes the ewokes look like *bleeping* shaft." 

lol I spent the afternoon with my mom Sunday and I pretty much just talked about ME3 and how sad I was.  I was laughing about it so she wasn't worried.  I'm 39 years old married mom of 3 and it makes me feel silly.

I can't shake how depressing this makes me.

I know right? I was talking to my non-gamer sister about how hurt I felt. I was actually surprised that she listened to me and tried making me feel better. I don't feel bad that I'm a grown woman who is mad at the ending of a video game. Not while seeing all of you guys feeling the same way.

I posted a big block on Facebook about it.  Most of my friends (who aren't familiar with ME) probably wondered what all of the fuss was.   But I've got a friend who's playing through the game right now and every time he sees me he lets me know that he hasn't finished it yet.  He got the game on release day and but had to go back and "fix" an ME2 save that didn't import with the right flags for some reason.  So he didn't actually start playing until I'd already finished the game.

And I hate to say it, but it was all I could do to stop myself from telling him that he'd essentially wasted his time.

[Fox544]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

TheFoxBlade wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

eoinnx03 wrote...

http://www.ingame.ms...r-ending-411424

MSN Article
HOLD THE LINE

They are talking about us ,looks like its really working.

Except we really don't want a happier ending, just one true to the core mechanics of the game - dialogue choice. It could be filled with Shepard dying alone in a ditch while his/her LI just finished cheating on him/her, so long as it made sense with the choice up until that point

Hey, don't speak for everyone. I want some sort of happy-ish ending. Closure just seems like the dominant and universal request. I played Mass Effect just so Shepard could retire with Liara, regardless of how "disney" or "lame" that is.

Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Was there a War on Happiness or something?

Modifié par Fox544, 13 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[Militarized]

Well... that's one more place (IGN) I won't be going to anymore.

Modifié par Militarized, 13 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[The_L33T_Man]

I thought I'd come in here and help hold the line.

Let's remember the sacrifices we've made, and why Shepard deserves a true, happy ending. Not some angsty, poor excuse for 'closure'.

[ashley_actually]

SassyJazRzmataz wrote...

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

 My cousin came over and asked what I'd been up to this week. Poor girl didn't know the can of worms she was opening. I then went on a 20 minute long rant about the ending. I thought I had reached some sort of acceptance with the ending by pretending it doesn't exist but apparently not. 
She then preceded to complain about some sort of panda bear expansion for WOW. I told her if I had been given a 4th panda option I would have taken it. To mangle a Spaced quote, "The star child makes the ewokes look like *bleeping* shaft." 

lol I spent the afternoon with my mom Sunday and I pretty much just talked about ME3 and how sad I was.  I was laughing about it so she wasn't worried.  I'm 39 years old married mom of 3 and it makes me feel silly.

I can't shake how depressing this makes me.

I know right? I was talking to my non-gamer sister about how hurt I felt. I was actually surprised that she listened to me and tried making me feel better. I don't feel bad that I'm a grown woman who is mad at the ending of a video game. Not while seeing all of you guys feeling the same way.

I'm 28 and a somewhat grow up person. I spent the day after beating the game curled up on the couch listening to the saddest songs on the ME3 soundtrack. I haven't posted on message boards in years but this thread has been a sanity saviour. 

[TheFoxBlade]

Esker02 wrote...

TheFoxBlade wrote...

Except we really don't want a happier ending, just one true to the core mechanics of the game - dialogue choice. It could be filled with Shepard dying alone in a ditch while his/her LI just finished cheating on him/her, so long as it made sense with the choice up until that point

Not to cause a schism in our little movement here, but I think that part of what we're fighting for is meaningful choice, viz, disparate endings in addition to coherent ones. I for one DO want a happier ending as an, admittedly difficult to obtain, possible ending. Shepard deserves it just as much as the ME universe deserves more than "lol relays went boom sorry about that."

That said, I do agree that merely saying our issue is that the ending was too sad doesn't quite get at the many lairs of disappointment that the ending represents.

Fair point. I was simply using hyperbole to make a point, not trying to pollute the waters. I understand that a lot of people feel cheated out of a happy ending because they worked so hard for it, but if it was sad for a purpose, you can't deny Bioware its artistic freedom to do such a thing with their IP. The main gripe is that they said choice would matter and that there would be a bunch of different endings, which was not true.

[Auralius Carolus]

The Big Palooka wrote...

THIS.  Don't even care anymore.  I want Shepard to have some freaking medals and some freaking babies  and a little pickety-fence house with a freaking adorable fat puppy in the front yard and a porch swing  and a freshly-baked freaking pie cooling on the freaking windowsill.

I think I'll settle for logical, if a re-write is offered. I'll accept the "after-effects" as proper DLC.

I know Liara fans wanted a marriage, Tali fans want to get her a house...

And Rannoch is a pretty place to retire. Just saying.

[Graywolf633]

DasGota wrote...

Graywolf633 wrote...

Here's to hoping that BioWare gives us some kind of official response soon. Heck, I'd be okay with them just telling me what happened in a way that made complete sense, closing those plot-holes and explaining why exactly the Normandy is fleeing the battle.

And for those of you that need a laugh after the end, here. I found this link somewhere in the last couple hundred pages, and it sure helped me get over my depression. I really hope it helps.

How have I not see that until now? I started laughing so hard I nearly cried. 

Thank you for re-posting it. I needed that. 

No problem. 

*sigh* Many more will need it in the coming days when they finally finish ME3, too. Hold the line, folks. Hold the line.