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[Eumerin]

Fox544 wrote...
Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Did the USA have a War on Happiness or something?

Because happy endings are so cliche and overdone!  Don't you know?

/rolleyes

I actually wouldn't mind a strong but bittersweet ending.  In fact, my mentally storyboarded ending fits that profile (or at least the bittersweet part; I might be a little biased about the "strong" part...  ).  But the ending that Bioware gave us is so weak that it beggars belief.

[Fox544]

Mattroy wrote...

I have a friend who loves the Mass Effect series nearly as much as I do. He's studying abroad right now and has limited internet access so there's little chance he knows anything of what's happening here. He returns in two weeks and is eager to get to play the game. Do I tell him to wait for a solution that may never come? Or do I let him enjoy the bliss that is the early majority of the game? I just don't want him to get hurt like we all were.

Also, I recommended the series to a few friends who in the past few weeks started right from the first game. Now I feel guilty about it.

I've started talking people out of it who are long time fans. Maybe new players would enjoy it better but I think most long time fans would be very disappointed.

[Kloborgg711]

Fox544 wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

TheFoxBlade wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

eoinnx03 wrote...

http://www.ingame.ms...r-ending-411424

MSN Article
HOLD THE LINE

They are talking about us ,looks like its really working.

Except we really don't want a happier ending, just one true to the core mechanics of the game - dialogue choice. It could be filled with Shepard dying alone in a ditch while his/her LI just finished cheating on him/her, so long as it made sense with the choice up until that point

Hey, don't speak for everyone. I want some sort of happy-ish ending. Closure just seems like the dominant and universal request. I played Mass Effect just so Shepard could retire with Liara, regardless of how "disney" or "lame" that is.

Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Was there a War on Happiness or something?

Happiness is too mainstream (?)

[Kuranai3]

Time 2 sleep.
Hold the line.

[Darth Garrus]

Walrusninja wrote...

Agreed Darth. Bioware need to realise, it's not a case of "shock" or "not quite what I wanted". The ending makes no sense! It also doesn't conclude ANYTHING. That view won't go away, but fans will.

Exactly, Ninja! It's not shock. It's pure disappointment. It's a sense that you invested more than just time and money into this, and you were betrayed, or robbed, or just fooled. And even in a totally rational side of it, it's just bad writing and a bad way to wrap up something. Especially something that took so long to complete. For us, it took a lot of time, lots of different decisions, and came down to some bad minutes and not seing what happened to all you chose and fought for.

I think the least they could have included is (besides a good ending) a bunch of scenes about what happened to all your companions (from all games), all the planets, races, places, people.

What did we got? "Stargazer"??? Come on!!!

[SassyJazRzmataz]

Mattroy wrote...

I have a friend who loves the Mass Effect series nearly as much as I do. He's studying abroad right now and has limited internet access so there's little chance he knows anything of what's happening here. He returns in two weeks and is eager to get to play the game. Do I tell him to wait for a solution that may never come? Or do I let him enjoy the bliss that is the early majority of the game? I just don't want him to get hurt like we all were.

Also, I recommended the series to a few friends who in the past few weeks started right from the first game. Now I feel guilty about it.

SAME. I got all my friends to start playing the first game and my best friend who introduced me to the series is playing ME3 now. I also feel guilty about it.

Modifié par SassyJazRzmataz, 13 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Annaleah]

The Big Palooka wrote...

THIS.  Don't even care anymore.  I want Shepard to have some freaking medals and some freaking babies  and a little pickety-fence house with a freaking adorable fat puppy in the front yard and a porch swing  and a freshly-baked freaking pie cooling on the freaking windowsill.

YES

[Kezza]

zoider16 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Just watched the IGN video.
Are you kidding me?

Wich one? Link please

Here is the link for you: www.ign.com/videos/2012/03/12/mass-effect-3-opinion-video

To be honest he is making a pretty good point it is there game but I really want them to add more endings; brighter endings

[Larask]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...


]Right here. Beware, giant tool incoming.

Wow... he really doesn't get it huh? Yes, ME is BW's game but it doesn't mean we can't have a strong voice about it. He fails to address how the endings have nothing to do with what was promised to us (just read my sig) and above all, it disrespects the entire series by taking our choices away from us.  This is not about getting our way, it is about keeping consistancy with the entire trilogy especially at the end. 

Modifié par Larask, 13 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[DevApp]

What I don't get is, where is the series supposed to go from here?

I mean, you could sort of explain the endings if they provided a cohesive end point where it was obvious they were springboarding some sort of new installment to continue the IP... but thinking about it, even if you ignore the plot holes and general badness, the plot points of each are mutually exclusive.

We're going to notice in the next iteration of ME if everyone's a glowing green cyborg or if there are derelect Reapers floating all about the galaxy or if the Citadel still exists. The only unifying plot point is the destruction of the Mass Relays. They either have to write the next game to take your previous choices into account like they did with ME2 and ME3 or they have to select one as cannon. So, they're either making more work for themselves or nullifying our choices even further...

These endings just don't feel like they make any sense on any level of the creative process.

Modifié par DevApp, 13 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[ebevan91]

Alright, so I just beat the game, and apparently only Ashley, Joker, and Vega survived after crash landing on that planet.

So what do you think happens next?

I didn't get the N7 breathing scene so I guess Sheps dead for good this time. I chose the destroy ending.

Modifié par ebevan91, 13 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[CharacterizationFail]

I beat the game last week, and still can't get over the terrible endings. Honestly beyond all of the huge issues, one of the things that bothers me the most is that throughout the game we saw time after time the most poignant self sacrifices made by companions. I was fully expecting to have to sacrifice Shepard to get the "best" ending... but having every single ending require a sacrifice takes all of the impact away. After all those times they grabbed our heartstrings and dragged us out on a rodeo of pure feelings, I just can't even fathom how no one looked at the ending and went "You know, compared to Mordin and Legion and Thane ect ect ect this is going to feel like a pretty flat end."

Even the e-mail about how Kal'Reegar died had more of an emotional impact than sacrificing the character I've dragged through 100 hours of gaming.

(I know you can survive with the destroy ending, but for people who dislike multiplayer that ending seems to fall somewhere between bloody hard and impossible to get on the difficulty scale.)

[Eumerin]

Mattroy wrote...

I have a friend who loves the Mass Effect series nearly as much as I do. He's studying abroad right now and has limited internet access so there's little chance he knows anything of what's happening here. He returns in two weeks and is eager to get to play the game. Do I tell him to wait for a solution that may never come? Or do I let him enjoy the bliss that is the early majority of the game? I just don't want him to get hurt like we all were.

I'd give him a heads up that the meat of the game is good (and therefore he should play the game), but the last ten minutes or so are pretty weak.  You're off the hook to a certain extent after saying that because you'll have legitimately warned him but he won't realize just how weak it really is.  He'll no doubt tell himself that, after all, it's Bioware and it can't be that bad.

Sadly, he'll be wrong...


Keep in mind that anyone who's familiar with Bioware's past work will be thinking that there must be at least some redeeming value in the ending, even if the general feeling is that it's weak.  For vets, the only way to comprehend just how bad the ending is requires actually experiencing the ending yourself.

[CaptnObvious]

You know, after all this, i hope Seth Green will make a Robot Chicken episode about this.

Waves and waves of fans attacking BioWare, like Husks. That would be a great segment...

[Fox544]

Eumerin wrote...

Fox544 wrote...
Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Did the USA have a War on Happiness or something?

Because happy endings are so cliche and overdone!  Don't you know?

/rolleyes

I actually wouldn't mind a strong but bittersweet ending.  In fact, my mentally storyboarded ending fits that profile (or at least the bittersweet part; I might be a little biased about the "strong" part...  ).  But the ending that Bioware gave us is so weak that it beggars belief.

My problem is why can't there be both? Cut scenes arn't hard to make so why not make a bitter ending (current) bittersweet and perfect?

Its the en of a Trilogy, spring for the extra cutscenes.

[Kezza]

ebevan91 wrote...

Alright, so I just beat the game, and apparently only Ashley, Joker, and Vega survived after crash landing on that planet.

So what do you think happens next?

From what I understand the others did survive they just didn't step out to take a look outside

[CDHarrisUSF]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Hey, don't speak for everyone. I want some sort of happy-ish ending. Closure just seems like the dominant and universal request. I played Mass Effect just so Shepard could retire with Liara, regardless of how "disney" or "lame" that is.

I want a possible happy ending, even if it's locked until I get 7000+ EMS (I'll do MP if I have to), but would settle for an emotional, poignant ending with some ****ing catharsis... as long as my choices matter... as long as Shepard dies with meaning and dignity... as long as Shepard goes down fighting instead of just caving to Space Monty Hall and picking door number three... as long as there aren't gaping plot holes... as long as it doesn't come down to ridiculous space magic. I want a happy ending, but I need a fitting ending.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 13 mars 2012 - 05:14 .

[Graywolf633]

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

 My cousin came over and asked what I'd been up to this week. Poor girl didn't know the can of worms she was opening. I then went on a 20 minute long rant about the ending. I thought I had reached some sort of acceptance with the ending by pretending it doesn't exist but apparently not. 
She then preceded to complain about some sort of panda bear expansion for WOW. I told her if I had been given a 4th panda option I would have taken it. To mangle a Spaced quote, "The star child makes the ewokes look like *bleeping* shaft." 

lol I spent the afternoon with my mom Sunday and I pretty much just talked about ME3 and how sad I was.  I was laughing about it so she wasn't worried.  I'm 39 years old married mom of 3 and it makes me feel silly.

I can't shake how depressing this makes me.

Lol. That pretty much sums up my Sunday, too, and I'm just eighteen. She was rolling her eyes the entire time. Now, though, I've kind of reached the acceptance stage, which has helped with the depression.

[vboy23]

CaduganFaber wrote...

with the middle road ending Joker gets EDI, at least two of your other crewmembers have hooked up and Shepperd? yeah, after hundreds of hours invested? he gets the shaft no matter what.

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;

Still better ending than Mass Effect 3

[Darkspazztic]

The Big Palooka wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...
If Bioware had made me feel this strongly about an ending I liked, they could conquer the world with me
at their feet.  As it is, slightly less willing to do that atm, although my affections can be bought back, Bioware, if you're listening.

Mine too.  I'm a **** for good endings, just FYI.

THIS.  Don't even care anymore.  I want Shepard to have some freaking medals and some freaking babies  and a little pickety-fence house with a freaking adorable fat puppy in the front yard and a porch swing  and a freshly-baked freaking pie cooling on the freaking windowsill.

And THAT would be a beautiful sight to behold.

[Jackal7713]

Cousland001 wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Saw this in their Twitter:

Mass Effect supports Hipsters?!

PREORDER CANCELLED!!!!!!

OMG As social media consulant, who worked on political campaigns since '08, I can say some of their post are highly questionable. But I don't want to get kicked from BSN so I won't go into details.

[ErMacPE]

It's not often that I post on a forum anywhere, I tend to lurk more than anything else, but I must agree with the a lot of the sentiments posted here - it's not about the endings to the game being bad, or not giving me the "roses and wine" ending that I do think a lot of us are secretly hoping for...

What it IS about though, is that the ending choices we were given make no sense, especially when you consider what many of us (as Commander Shepard) have done to get there, even more so when each ending gives you essentially the same outcome - it basically renders every choice, every decision, every thought you have had about the game universe, completely moot.

*EDIT: Stupid finger syndrome hits again!*

I do agree with many of the posters here that it's not about that "happy" ending, but that it's about giving us something that would make that sacrifice we have to make actually MEAN something, and not leave us with essentially the same option and a slightly different coloured explosion (an over simplification, I know)

Anyway, that's my two cents' worth...

Joining the ranks, and holding the line!

Modifié par ErMacPE, 13 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[CaptnObvious]

Larask wrote...



Wow... he really doesn't get it huh? Yes, ME is BW's game but it doesn't mean we can't have a strong voice about it. He fails to address how the endings have nothing to do with what was promised to us (just read my sig) and above all, it disrespects the entire series by taking our choices away from us.  This is not about getting our way, it is about keeping consistancy with the entire trilogy especially at the end. 

You know, i read your sig carefully, and i feel thats EXACTLY want they had in mind. The endings we saw were what they had in mind as the definitive ending to Shep. I would love to be wrong, but ive seen too many people theorizing on these endings to NOT see what he means when he says " Itll be different for everyone". 
It kindof was, no?

[TurambarEA]

That IGN 'opinion piece' is a joke. Of course they're going to support ME3 as it is - they have Jessica Chobot in there as a character. I still can't believe Bioware let a gaming journalist INTO their game. Such a massive conflict of interest and that 'opinion piece' is showing just how right those initial criticisms were. The comments below the IGN piece are all tearing the opinion to pieces with legitimate points at least. Even if they think they're scoring points with EA, IGN is just going to alienate their readership with crap like that.