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[Pipe 42]

Heh, finally managed to get my account password reset and straight on hither to join the protest!

I think what a lot of people are really concerned about is there was no emotional catharsis and we were shoehorned into a series of actions that are really out of character for someone who has had as much growth and support as Shepard has.

I for one hope that Bioware and EA take note of the vast overwhelming support of this issue and consider the impact this decision has had on us as loyal fans of the series. Like many I bought the game on release day and spent a feverish 30 hours or so over two days hammering the game out, making certain I completely avoided all spoilers related to the game. This was because I wanted to see the story I had created through my playthroughs.

As is, I do feel that this isn't the same person I'd played so far and that disconnect from a game that had so far had me second guessing myself throughout all three games to that point was jarring and I hope there is more to these events than meets the eye.

Bioware are better than this.
Mass Effect is better than this.
Shepard is better than this.

[IndelibleJester]

Bioware, I think if the crucible teleported Minsc into the future and he proceeded to raise an army of space hamsters, big and small, to destroy the reapers, that ending would have had more closure than this. (His end DOES say he disappeared and lives only among the stars...)

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 13 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Auralius Carolus]

Camping out in the forums, revealing emotional details and discussing subjects of passion can make a man hungry. I believe I have some BBQ chicken left over from dinner around here somewhere *scrounges*.

[Annaleah]

MissNet wrote...

 i just leave it here and go away
https://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson


"Lots of great feedback coming in on #MassEffect3 - keep it coming! We listen to it all."

Vague tweet is vague... Not suprised though.

[Jackal7713]

TurambarEA wrote...

That IGN 'opinion piece' is a joke. Of course they're going to support ME3 as it is - they have Jessica Chobot in there as a character. I still can't believe Bioware let a gaming journalist INTO their game. Such a massive conflict of interest and that 'opinion piece' is showing just how right those initial criticisms were. The comments below the IGN piece are all tearing the opinion to pieces with legitimate points at least. Even if they think they're scoring points with EA, IGN is just going to alienate their readership with crap like that.

IGN figures they can say anything because they have a platform. Its sad but its true. The only way to beat them is with logical arguments showing that what they are saying is wrong. And when they resort to name calling, then you know you have them on the run. Look at IGN's lastest editorial. His argument was a joke to say the least. IGN had to say something because of articles showing up in Forbes and MSNBC. In all honesty, knowing about back room politics, I think IGN got a phone call this afternoon. IGN rushed  to get a story out to deflatet the articles published by MSNBC and Forbes.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 13 mars 2012 - 05:24 .

[Darth Garrus]

Rosery99 wrote...

This is key my friend. If we hear nothing in a week, two weeks and so forth. WE MUST hold the line, even if it takes month, we must be prepared for a very long haul, keep coming back, keep posting, keep letting BW know that this won't stand and we are not going away, not now, not until they fix it or shut down the forums. It's what it may take.

Hold The Line.

 I'll try my best! We must send a message. You can't do this anymore. This days people can use forums, get on the news etc. You can't come with another... let's say... "sequel to Kotor" kind of ending, and get away with it. By the way, just food for thought, if the "sequel to Kotor" proved anything is that game rating websites are almost worthless. They all gave that game stellar ratings, and despite the qualities of the game, they completely overlooked the obvious rushed ending. I wonder if BW will just show the big ratings they got from these sites, and ignore the buyers.

No more. You can't just worry about a base story, ignore big parts of it, rush with bad, simplistic endings, and get away with it.

[Novouto]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

THIS.  Don't even care anymore.  I want Shepard to have some freaking medals and some freaking babies  and a little pickety-fence house with a freaking adorable fat puppy in the front yard and a porch swing  and a freshly-baked freaking pie cooling on the freaking windowsill.

I think I'll settle for logical, if a re-write is offered. I'll accept the "after-effects" as proper DLC.

I know Liara fans wanted a marriage, Tali fans want to get her a house...

And Rannoch is a pretty place to retire. Just saying.

Lol and it's interesting that Rannoch looks like the place I live at.

I just want options, options to finally end the story. No one wants a story that doesn't have a finish.

[ashley_actually]

Eumerin wrote...

Fox544 wrote...
Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Did the USA have a War on Happiness or something?

Because happy endings are so cliche and overdone!  Don't you know?

/rolleyes

I actually wouldn't mind a strong but bittersweet ending.  In fact, my mentally storyboarded ending fits that profile (or at least the bittersweet part; I might be a little biased about the "strong" part...  ).  But the ending that Bioware gave us is so weak that it beggars belief.

A happy ending is not my main complaint. I'm happily pretending my Shepard died beside Anderson after hitting a Reaper kill switch, but what is wrong with providing the option? Let's say you gather all your war assets and beat the game twice why can't that unlock the you win option. Make it hard, make it near impossible, but give us the possibilty. 

[Olueq]

**** the ending.

[csmokey]

I dont want a happier ending I want an ending that isnt the same or makes me hate wasting my time on a game, its like reading the lord of the rings and at the last battle, the planet explodes, leaving nothing resolved, what effects did my actions cause did the krogan take over, did the geth turn on the quarian

[Senario]

TurambarEA wrote...

That IGN 'opinion piece' is a joke. Of course they're going to support ME3 as it is - they have Jessica Chobot in there as a character. I still can't believe Bioware let a gaming journalist INTO their game. Such a massive conflict of interest and that 'opinion piece' is showing just how right those initial criticisms were. The comments below the IGN piece are all tearing the opinion to pieces with legitimate points at least. Even if they think they're scoring points with EA, IGN is just going to alienate their readership with crap like that.

I actually never went down to talk to chobot....To be honest I don't understand why the reporter wasn't Emily Wong. Or Kahlisa Bint Sinan Al-Jilani. Rather some random "War reporter" instead of "Citadel News Net's Emily Wong" Or our Love(to punch) able Kahlisa.

[CaptnObvious]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Camping out in the forums, revealing emotional details and discussing subjects of passion can make a man hungry. I believe I have some BBQ chicken left over from dinner around here somewhere *scrounges*.

Lol that sure gave me a good laugh... and quite an appetite too.
Damn you, buddy, its 1:30, i aint gonna get no chicken now.

[Larask]

CaptnObvious wrote...

You know, i read your sig carefully, and i feel thats EXACTLY want they had in mind. The endings we saw were what they had in mind as the definitive ending to Shep. I would love to be wrong, but ive seen too many people theorizing on these endings to NOT see what he means when he says " Itll be different for everyone". 
It kindof was, no?

Well if he meant being different in to the point that we won't understand or be open to interpretation, then yeah, they got it. But this is not what any ME fan would have interpreted from what he said before beating the game. We are all familiar with the way ME works, and how different each Shepard can be. So one could internpret either way I suppose, but we both know that they could have done better and given unique and memorable choices for us that would create those unforgetable and great moments that the rest of the series demostrated. 

[DifferentD17]

www.youtube.com/watch

SourceFed talks about us.

Modifié par DifferentD17, 13 mars 2012 - 05:24 .

[Wistala]

Just wanted to post this podcast from The Escapist. They talk about some issues about Mass Effect 3.

http://www.escapistm...li-Stock-Photos

[Eumerin]

ashley_actually wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

Fox544 wrote...
Agreed. Why is it in today's age everything has to be dark and brooding? Did the USA have a War on Happiness or something?

Because happy endings are so cliche and overdone!  Don't you know?

/rolleyes

I actually wouldn't mind a strong but bittersweet ending.  In fact, my mentally storyboarded ending fits that profile (or at least the bittersweet part; I might be a little biased about the "strong" part...  ).  But the ending that Bioware gave us is so weak that it beggars belief.

A happy ending is not my main complaint. I'm happily pretending my Shepard died beside Anderson after hitting a Reaper kill switch, but what is wrong with providing the option? Let's say you gather all your war assets and beat the game twice why can't that unlock the you win option. Make it hard, make it near impossible, but give us the possibilty. 

I don't argue with that.  I'd like a "happy" ending provided it feels earned (it shouldn't feel cheap, by any means).  But I'd also happily settle for bittersweet provided that it was actually strong.

To borrow a (very) old (ancient, more accurately) joke, the current ending is so weak that it couldn't swim the current in a bathtub.

That's the one thing that needs to be stressed over and over again.  Yes, the outcome of the current ending is rather lame and unfortunate.  But ultimately, the ending is just plain weak.  An unhappy but still strong ending would not be getting the flack that the current ending is receiving.

[Leraje666]

Well, I find it rather amusing how EA stock has been skowly sliding down over the course of the day:
www.google.com/finance

[illutian]

ashley_actually wrote...

SassyJazRzmataz wrote...

Sywen wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

I'm 28 and a somewhat grow up person. I spent the day after beating the game curled up on the couch listening to the saddest songs on the ME3 soundtrack. I haven't posted on message boards in years but this thread has been a sanity saviour. 

Thing is Mass Effect was real life (no joke). Everytime I saw a choice I'd immediately think "yep that's the option I'd pick if this was real."

The choices mattered to us. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't be an ass and go Renegade. Right now I'm sitting at what appears to be Full Rep, with about half a "stick" (|-----****|) of Renegade and the rest Paragon. Why? Because that's me.

In fact I've gone back to redo things because it didn't turn out how I wanted it to...why? Because I did it in the wrong order (ie Blow up Reaper before Stopping Geth fighters).

So geee, I wonder why people are upset. Maybe because we made Shepard "us". Seriously, who here played fresh and was either Ultra Good or Ultra Bad (Para / Rene). HAVING NEVER PLAYED OR SEEN OTHERS PLAYING. Most of you probably played as "yourself" and then went back and played as "not you".

And then in the end we get cheated.

Modifié par Ivon, 13 mars 2012 - 05:25 .

[Auralius Carolus]

CaptnObvious wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Camping out in the forums, revealing emotional details and discussing subjects of passion can make a man hungry. I believe I have some BBQ chicken left over from dinner around here somewhere *scrounges*.

Lol that sure gave me a good laugh... and quite an appetite too.
Damn you, buddy, its 1:30, i aint gonna get no chicken now.

You're opinion is acceptable: I had no intentions of sharing.

[Rosery99]

Well I am going to bed for the night. Hold the line.

[myd00m]

wow

[Darth Garrus]

The result from my ending was that I saw a scene with Joker and Liara (love interest). Garrus and Ashley were with me, so I guess that, after everything we went through, they died stupidly in a Reaper laser. And no mention of the others.

So, after all we did in all the games, I don't know if Liara is really pregnant and what will happen to her; if my comrades survived; if just those two survived in the Normandy, and why. And that is just a detail about how bad those endings are. Again, no telling of the story after that. Not a clue.

If the ending wasn't rushed, it certainly was sloppy.

And I just hope they don't come out saying that they had planned a DLC that will explain it all. Just "$9.99". Things like that can't come after the game, in a DLC. It's like buying a car and knowing later that I have to pay more for the tires.

[Xenite]

What is so wrong with people who want at least a moderately happy ending? The real world sucks enough, do we really have to make every game ending bleak as well? Nobody is forcing you to choose once specific path, the person should make the decision for THEIR SHEPARD and nobody else.

And it has little to no affect on cannon since Shepard's story ends here one way or another. Bruce Willis doesn't die at the end of Diehard and Mel Gibson doesn't die at the end of Lethal Weapon.

People need to stop being so emo.

[SassyJazRzmataz]

Ivon wrote...
Thing is Mass Effect was real life (no joke). Everytime I saw a choice I'd immediately think "yep that's the option I'd pick if this was real."

The choices mattered to us. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't be an ass and go Renegade. Right now I'm sitting at what appears to be Full Rep, with about half a "stick" (|-----****|) of Renegade and the rest Paragon. Why? Because that's me.

In fact I've gone back to redo things because it didn't turn out how I wanted it to...why? Because I did it in the wrong order (ie Blow up Reaper before Stopping Geth fighters).

So geee, I wonder why people are upset. Maybe because we made Shepard "us". Seriously, who here played fresh and was either Ultra Good or Ultra Bad (Para / Rene). HAVING NEVER PLAYED OR SEEN OTHERS PLAYING. Most of you probably played as "yourself" and then went back and played as "not you".

And then in the end we get cheated.

Yeah that's how I feel. I made the choices I made in the game based on what I would do in real life. (I'm sure I wouldn't punch a reporter. I'm too nice.) I even made my Shepard look like me, pink lipstick and all. That's why I'm upset. I didn't have a choice.

Modifié par SassyJazRzmataz, 13 mars 2012 - 05:31 .

[DifferentD17]

Rosery99 wrote...

Well I am going to bed for the night. Hold the line.

Good night