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[illutian]

For some reason reading this thread....it's all coming back to me now

Modifié par Ivon, 13 mars 2012 - 07:45 .

[Benathorn]

Ok so I have been following this thread for four days now and apparently the third stage of grief was the worst for me. I had not cried at all since the whole ME3 coming to a shattering crash but I apparently could not take it anymore when I tried to restart a NG+. My husband is a big gamer as well and even he can see the effects it's having on me for the past four days and he hardly plays ME. He agrees however, that if a game causes this much stress and depression in everyone there is something seriously wrong with the ending. I just want my happy ending with Garrus and then later I will gladly throw myself into a burning green beam of light in another play through but all the choice and decision was just taken away from us in the end. This thread is the only thing keeping me sane at the moment.

[ashley_actually]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Oh god guys I just thought of something... the space wizard kid is... Morrigan's The Old God Baby!

Mind = Blown

In a time before recorded history a god baby was born and a plan was put in place that would change the universe forever. Now 3000 years later one broken soldier has to rise again possibly even from death itself to stop an old/new seemingly unbeatable enemy. Allies will be gathered through space AND time as the Warden, Hawke, and Commander Shepard unite in biowares first cross over game of the millenia event. This fall take back the galaxy, universe and time itself in Dragon Age 3: Mass Effect 4: Rise of the Space Wizards!

Grande Arch Duke Wizard Hackett turns to the camera: Well Shepard I guess I finally know...your favourite colour!
DUN

[The_L33T_Man]

SkaldFish wrote...

The_L33T_Man wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

The_L33T_Man wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

The_L33T_Man wrote...

My team mates magically teleported from Earth to the Normandy which was in the middle of using a Mass Relay for no apparent reason giving them a silly reason to crash land on an unknown garden world where half of them will die due to the the food on the planet likely only catering to one or the other types of metabolisms.

Same here. A guess a wizard did that too. A bad wizard. 

Wizards have always been a nuisance.  We thought we got rid of them in the Dark Ages, but they returned during the Reaper invasion.  They just won't die.

I mean why did we even do the Spanish Inquistion quest? Shouldn't that have taken care of the space wizard problem? 

See?  I get it now.  The endings to Mass Effect 3 point to one thing: the beginning of a new cycle.  The return of the Space Wizards.  If you thought the Reapers were bad, you're in for a ride.  Reapers are creations of Space Wizards.

Perpetually nine-year-old Space Wizards...

There is no greater threat.  They come to us in the form of our children, cloaking their evil power in innocence.  Don't you all see?  These "senseless" endings make perfect sense when you add in Space Wizards.  This was Bioware's intention.

[cinderburster]

DaftArbiter wrote...

So BW has told us that it'd be hard to get the best possible endings, but they always let us do with this game something that was unprecedented: if we made the right decisions, we could get the outcome we want. Huge spoilers ahead, you've been warned:









Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.

The ending isn't even bittersweet, IMO.  It's really kind of awful.  Tali and Garrus are dextro-aminos, so... either the humans remaining on the Normandy starve, or the Quarian and Turian do.  What a depressing ending for my two favorite characters since ME1.

[B.Shep]

J.Random wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

I may have missed someone posting this, so apologies if you've already seen it, but here is the latest from Kotaku.

This article is good, actually. I guess someone in Kotaku did finish the game paying attention to details at last. And furthermore, it brings us new term: "being sheparded". Yeah, I feel like I was sheparded all right.

I like this human he understand!
Serious, that was a nice article. I also feel i was "sheparded"...

[N7_Sniper91]

All these responses from these media outlets(Both good and bad), show we're actually getting some attention! On top of that, with the EA stocks declining(Which, given this whole controversy, is most certainly NOT a coincidence), and all the business that's probably going to be lost now with the ratings on metacritic and Amazon, now that this ending screwover has come to light, Bioware's going to be forced to address this sooner or later.

And judging by all the negative responses to all the attacks on the fans from those people who THINK they know better than we do(IGN, Kotaku, etc...), and who support the fans getting more endings and explanations, they had better address it sooner.

It's working, just keep up the pressure, people! Hold the line! Don't waver and don't stop until Mass Effect 3 gets the ending(s) it deserves!

Modifié par N7_Sniper91, 13 mars 2012 - 07:52 .

[The_L33T_Man]

cinderburster wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

So BW has told us that it'd be hard to get the best possible endings, but they always let us do with this game something that was unprecedented: if we made the right decisions, we could get the outcome we want. Huge spoilers ahead, you've been warned:









Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.

The ending isn't even bittersweet, IMO.  It's really kind of awful.  Tali and Garrus are dextro-aminos, so... either the humans remaining on the Normandy starve, or the Quarian and Turian do.  What a depressing ending for my two favorite characters since ME1.

Or they land on Aeia 2175 and become partially mentally retarded due to neural decay and eventually die.

[vboy23]

Wow, im still on page 860 catching up on posts, and its already past 915.... Damn me and my meticulous reading habits. It helps that im used to working he nightshift in a hospital.

[ViperAlvein]

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For anyone new to the thread, join the cause and hold the line!

[Hiyanu]

This is becoming painful to see that even before release it has been known that the ending was not going to amount to anything but as we call it 'bittersweet'. Reality shows its just bitter, tasteless, and empty.

To BioWare.
We have all felt greatness from every ME game and the monumental attachment we have had throughout each including ME3... About the ending we would all be more than thankful to get some straight up information instead of some of the replies we get through various means (pm, twitter, etc.) that either downplay our emotional attachment, or spin our words to this creation. Because this really sucks that a movement like this comes out of a shoddy ending to an amazing series. We hate the fact we have to let you know how bad we feel for not meeting our expectations in the least.

Modifié par Hiyanu, 13 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[Tyion133]

EA just put up a spring sale... Some of the newer games have dropped to half price...

[SkaldFish]

Benathorn wrote...

Ok so I have been following this thread for four days now and apparently the third stage of grief was the worst for me. I had not cried at all since the whole ME3 coming to a shattering crash but I apparently could not take it anymore when I tried to restart a NG+. My husband is a big gamer as well and even he can see the effects it's having on me for the past four days and he hardly plays ME. He agrees however, that if a game causes this much stress and depression in everyone there is something seriously wrong with the ending. I just want my happy ending with Garrus and then later I will gladly throw myself into a burning green beam of light in another play through but all the choice and decision was just taken away from us in the end. This thread is the only thing keeping me sane at the moment.

If nothing else, maybe we can see the inclusion of "Post-ME3 Stress Disorder" in the DSM.

Seriously, though, I understand. It really has had a significant impact on people. I think we have precious little understanding or appreciation of the impact of an immersive experience like the ME series.

[DifferentD17]

ashley_actually wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Oh god guys I just thought of something... the space wizard kid is... Morrigan's The Old God Baby!

Mind = Blown

In a time before recorded history a god baby was born and a plan was put in place that would change the universe forever. Now 3000 years later broken heroes, rise again even from death itself to stop an old/new seemingly unbeatable enemy. Allies will be gathered through space AND time as the Warden, Hawke, Commander Shepard and a all new hero all find the mystical Eluvians transporting them to a new plane in biowares first cross over game of the millenia event. This fall take back the galaxy, universe, time and the afterlife itself in Dragon Effect: Age of the Mass Wizards!

Grande Arch Duke Wizard Hackett turns to the camera: Well Shepard I guess I finally know...your favourite colour!
DUN Dun DUUUUNNN
*que amazing combat inspiring music*

I don't know if it's better just wanted to see what it would look like with my tweaks. They would still make you play as anew character though... lol

Modifié par DifferentD17, 13 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[Benirus]

SkaldFish wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Ok so I have been following this thread for four days now and apparently the third stage of grief was the worst for me. I had not cried at all since the whole ME3 coming to a shattering crash but I apparently could not take it anymore when I tried to restart a NG+. My husband is a big gamer as well and even he can see the effects it's having on me for the past four days and he hardly plays ME. He agrees however, that if a game causes this much stress and depression in everyone there is something seriously wrong with the ending. I just want my happy ending with Garrus and then later I will gladly throw myself into a burning green beam of light in another play through but all the choice and decision was just taken away from us in the end. This thread is the only thing keeping me sane at the moment.

If nothing else, maybe we can see the inclusion of "Post-ME3 Stress Disorder" in the DSM.

Seriously, though, I understand. It really has had a significant impact on people. I think we have precious little understanding or appreciation of the impact of an immersive experience like the ME series.

Yeah, I'v had some issues aswell. I bet human psychology researchers and philosophers are rubbing their hands in exitement

[cinderburster]

The_L33T_Man wrote...

cinderburster wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...
To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.

The ending isn't even bittersweet, IMO.  It's really kind of awful.  Tali and Garrus are dextro-aminos, so... either the humans remaining on the Normandy starve, or the Quarian and Turian do.  What a depressing ending for my two favorite characters since ME1.

Or they land on Aeia 2175 and become partially mentally retarded due to neural decay and eventually die.

Well, at least in that state they probably wouldn't worry about much of anything.  Did we win?  Were the Reapers destroyed?  WHO CARES I'm going to sit in my cave and drool.

[Flammenpanzer]

Wow...900+ pages already? That shocks me, despite how much I disliked the end cut scenes.

[Hiyanu]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

Wow...900+ pages already? That shocks me, despite how much I disliked the end cut scenes.

This will likely continue and triple over the next month

[BCMakoto]

SkaldFish wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Ok so I have been following this thread for four days now and apparently the third stage of grief was the worst for me. I had not cried at all since the whole ME3 coming to a shattering crash but I apparently could not take it anymore when I tried to restart a NG+. My husband is a big gamer as well and even he can see the effects it's having on me for the past four days and he hardly plays ME. He agrees however, that if a game causes this much stress and depression in everyone there is something seriously wrong with the ending. I just want my happy ending with Garrus and then later I will gladly throw myself into a burning green beam of light in another play through but all the choice and decision was just taken away from us in the end. This thread is the only thing keeping me sane at the moment.

If nothing else, maybe we can see the inclusion of "Post-ME3 Stress Disorder" in the DSM.

Seriously, though, I understand. It really has had a significant impact on people. I think we have precious little understanding or appreciation of the impact of an immersive experience like the ME series.

I have the exact same problem. I am not crying in the real way, I don't cry often, but I feel "empty". Beeing able to forge my own Shepard, which in some way represents what I would have done in this situation to a certain extend, and then be punshed with this ending...

I just feel like I have not put an end to something...like hours I spend in the ME universe, reading, playing,writing, even having some fan stuff, doesn't even matter right now. It is not about Shepard beeing killed...it is about the way it all unfolded. Casper appearing, telling Shepard what to do. My Shepard would have told the kid to go and jump off the Citadel. Why not at least conclude the story with a text and for example make me die together with my LI. That would be a bittersweet ending, but I certainly WOULD cry if Liara threw herself with me into the beam.

I mean, to not know anything about the fate of my squadmates, of the galaxy, after going trough this lenghts to save it Shepard not deserving happiness... knowing that my LI (Liara) has left Shepard to die there as she was on the Normandy. Can we assume every decision, even the great talk about "Staying with him until the end." wasn't true after all? Seriously, if I want unanswered questions, romantical failure and such, I turn on the TV and watch the news or some of the german entertaining shows running in the afternoon.

Hiyanu wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...

Wow...900+ pages already? That shocks me, despite how much I disliked the end cut scenes.

This will likely continue and triple over the next month

Bioware and EA will have some problems if it does.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 13 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[Tony208]

One thing some of you may not be aware of.

A while back they released Mass Effect Genesis, a back story DLC that lets newcomers to ME2 choose how some of the major ME1 decisions play out. They even released a DLC because our choices are so important to the story that they wanted to let us write it.

Then the give us this ending. I don't understand.

[Stealthy Cake]

After 150 hour time spent creating my ''perfect'' playthrough, i think i deserve a real, awesome ending, along with some time with Liara. Hmmmmmmm!??!??

[ashley_actually]

DifferentD17 wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Oh god guys I just thought of something... the space wizard kid is... Morrigan's The Old God Baby!

Mind = Blown

In a time before recorded history a god baby was born and a plan was put in place that would change the universe forever. Now 3000 years later broken heroes, rise again even from death itself to stop an old/new seemingly unbeatable enemy. Allies will be gathered through space AND time as the Warden, Hawke, Commander Shepard and a all new hero all find the mystical Eluvians transporting them to a new plane in biowares first cross over game of the millenia event. This fall take back the galaxy, universe, time and the afterlife itself in Dragon Effect: Age of the Mass Wizards!

Grande Arch Duke Wizard Hackett turns to the camera: Well Shepard I guess I finally know...your favourite colour!
DUN Dun DUUUUNNN
*que amazing combat inspiring music*

I don't know if it's better just wanted to see what it would look like with my tweaks. They would still make you play as anew character though... lol

I forgot about the new character. Probably a defector Space Wizard. Unhappy with the mustache twirling evilness of your brethren and how they totally messed up your deserted tropical planet vacation you head out on your own. Riding your space unicorn through space and time you gather allies to your side as you work to bring down the only family you have ever known. Only YOU can bring balance back to the universe. Mass Dragon Effect: Age of the Space Wizards. 

Modifié par ashley_actually, 13 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Enviable Memory]

So, do you guys really think ea's drop at the stock exchange people are talking about here has to do with the Mass Effect ending? How come? Any evidence for that?

[vboy23]

As an aside to all the reports from other websites:

We may or may not agree with the work of the journalists covering this issue. Some may even seem condescending or insulting. I say do not let yourselves be provoked. Most of the replies I've read regarding these articles, responses from people who want something changed has been mostly mature.

Do not give in to flamers or trolls that insult us. It only weakens our position. Instead point out the hings that clearly gave us pause at the end of the game ( god child, the lack of real closure, teleporting squadmates, normandy crew leaving in the middle of battle etc).

I've been lurking the forum and I've seen replies where players didnt think all this "commotion" is warranted, and yet end themselves writing that the ending seems out of character from a developer like Bioware.

Having all these articles agreeing/disagreeing with RetakeME3 only helps increase our exposure to everyone else.

Hold the line !!!

[DifferentD17]

Nachtbalg wrote...

So, do you guys really think ea's drop at the stock exchange people are talking about here has to do with the Mass Effect ending? How come? Any evidence for that?

The user ratings probably don't help.