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#23026
Sterenn

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Andyrew_ wrote...

Just hoping that this "oversight" hasn't hurt the sales of the game.
 


The sales of the game are already hurt. And it will keep going worse, with Bioware and Ea remaining silent.

#23027
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Ziajin wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...
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Question is, is the community going to step up and say we were wrong?



I would gladly do so if Bioware brings a new ending. Why not? I admit I was wrong about them then. But this was something more then Bioware has planned though: They brought the community together in a way they never could have done otherwise. Even if some here loose faith. IF Bioware had plans all along, they will be also happy: To have created something that matters to people.

If they don't have a plan...best get prepared for the storm then...


Is there gonna be a huge protest at their HQ n stuff then if so? :P


No, but their financial worth and income will be hit by it. That is way worser then a protest at the HQ.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 13 mars 2012 - 10:23 .


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Is there already a offical reaction from Bioware?

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ukartet wrote...

Is there already a offical reaction from Bioware?


Not as of now. The only thing is "They are waiting for Japanese release.". Which is pointless as I know japanese people from SW:ToR guild, and they already know about this.

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I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

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astrophyzcs

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oops.

(Didn't mean to post here, hurrr). 

Modifié par astrophyzcs, 13 mars 2012 - 10:25 .


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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.

#23033
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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

Do you speak of the hallucination theory? 

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I'm french and i beat the game once. I'm very mad about this "ending(s)" (support the endoctrination ending theory :) ).

Hold The line too

Modifié par Byakuren2009, 13 mars 2012 - 10:26 .


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RemorseLessXx wrote...

I do not take credit for the video. I was not the one who made it. I just saw it on youtube and posted it because people may have not seen it yet.

Ziajin wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

Thanks for the link, its a good explanation and I feel like such a dope.

RemorseLessXx wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I've just stumbled across this in another thread, i'm not sure if its been posted here, but



Cannot believe I missed this.... !


Should watch this video as well




They be puttin our cases into words now man! Yeaahh. And no, there's no new news from the front. Still strange silence from BW but, we already knew that.


Didn't say you made it :) I was saying they be putting them all in words on the youtubes. And yeah, I hadn't seen those either. Good to know they'll be here in this thread. Let's get to 1k pages? :D

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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


I would gladely apoligize to Bioware if this turns out to be true. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong and then saying Bioware were geniuses for all this chaos.

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When the press statement hits, let me know and i will join in

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.



#23038
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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


You assume that we have misunderstood the ending when we are just pointing what's wrong with it. If Bioware comes with a free surprise DLC (and a "all of this was a bad joke" argument), I will be more than glad to make excuses myself. That doesn't make their attitude better anyway.

PS : and this is damaging their business.

Modifié par Sterenn, 13 mars 2012 - 10:28 .


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RemorseLessXx wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I've just stumbled across this in another thread, i'm not sure if its been posted here, but



Cannot believe I missed this.... !


Should watch this video as well




Interesting. I'm too tired to point stuff out this morning. This really has worn me down :(

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LPKerberos wrote...

Ziajin wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...
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Question is, is the community going to step up and say we were wrong?



I would gladly do so if Bioware brings a new ending. Why not? I admit I was wrong about them then. But this was something more then Bioware has planned though: They brought the community together in a way they never could have done otherwise. Even if some here loose faith. IF Bioware had plans all along, they will be also happy: To have created something that matters to people.

If they don't have a plan...best get prepared for the storm then...


Is there gonna be a huge protest at their HQ n stuff then if so? :P


No, but their financial worth and income will be hit by it. That is way worser then a protest at the HQ.


True, but you have to admit. A protest would be awesome. We'd all get to meet in person and rally to the cause. #Holdtheline ! Just sayin.

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I showed him this video.



FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

Do you speak of the hallucination theory? 



#23042
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The facts, as mentioned here, watch it through to the end...

Benathorn wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


I would gladely apoligize to Bioware if this turns out to be true. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong and then saying Bioware were geniuses for all this chaos.



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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?



For one, I don't think they did, they just don't like it.

And for two, if 270.000 people really misunderstood it, they're doing it wrong. (and by they, I mean the writers)

Modifié par LetheAlethe, 13 mars 2012 - 10:29 .


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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

Do you speak of the hallucination theory? 


Not sure how the onus should be on us, it should be on the writer who crafted the sequence. They should have not made it so vague that we simply didn't see it. What was there to see?

Someone pointed out that there were reaper noises, but I CAN'T PICK UP ON THIS. I'm deaf! I need more hints and Bioware simply didn't deliver on this.

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Rothgar49 wrote...

RemorseLessXx wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I've just stumbled across this in another thread, i'm not sure if its been posted here, but



Cannot believe I missed this.... !


Should watch this video as well




Interesting. I'm too tired to point stuff out this morning. This really has worn me down :(


It's still eating at me. I continually rant about it still too. I'm thinking I'll continue to be ranting about it until it's fixed. Yeah, a response from BW will help (slightly). But until they announce they're fixing it + a release date window for the fix in either a patch for free, or a DLC (Free or paid, I don't care.) then this will continue to eat at me.

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Andyrew_ wrote...

When the press statement hits, let me know and i will join in

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.


I would join this as well. Bioware deserves an apology ,if this turns out to be their original plan, and I would gladly give them one. :)

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Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


depends on a) if there was such a misunderstanding.
                   B) the nature of the misunderstanding.

If you're refering to the indoc/hallucination theory...

the Best Bioware can expect from me is a "Well played" . I don't apologise for being trolled.


Well THAT and I'll agree to give them my money again. Since that's all that matters to them I'm sure it will be a sufficient recompense.

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Just wanted to add in. I'm going to Sakura-Con (Seattle Convention Center: April 6-8th) yeah it's an anime convention. But there's a lot of gamers there too. I will for sure have a sign or badge or something that has @RetakeME3 and #Holdtheline on me at all times. I want to see how many in that sort of general public convention will be part of our cause at that point.

#23049
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I honestly don't care if the ending is just a hallucination. I care that I didn't get the ending proper. If they planned the ending of the game as an arc over dlc's, fine. But then I want to get some warning that this is not the full game. But I'm sure many will be furious about that as well, because it means they don't have the full game.

#23050
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Guys, I've read the theory and watched the videos on the indoctrination theory, and I like it (the theory, not the "ending"). With that breathing scene and the poetic paragon/renegade switcheroo, it actually makes sense.

However, just so I'm clear on this, that would mean that the scene with the Illusive Man and Anderson never happened right? Because Shep gets knocked out before he gets to the beam?

This makes it seem unlikely to me, the scenes with Anderson and the Illusive man doesn't seem to fit with "it was a dream".