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Sterenn wrote...

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So was that a no then? ( regarding question I asked on previous page)


No news except a cryptic response on Mass Effect 2 facebook page asking us to keep commenting.


I figured that, but no one has reached out to the voice actors and asked questions about future dlc voice recording?

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Anderson represents Shepard's conscience. TIM represents Shepard's "devils advocate", his/her fears about the reapers and also represents as Harbinger's first attempt to change Shepard's mind in the "vision".


OK, I think I can swallow that. It's better than crying and being unable to focus on anything. I thought it was weird that anyone else was in the citadel anyway, since as I recall no one made it to the beam.

However, accepting this means that the two crew members you took with you were almost definitely dead right? I never understood this because I took Kaidan with me and he got off the ship with Joker and EDI. 

If the two you take with you definitely die, it's Javik and Vega all the way.


For me, I'd like to think they are under cover; trying to get to Shepard and if they appear in the "normandy paradise" scene, perhaps that's Shepard's mind alluding to the fact they are still alive? I described it as:

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It is Shepard's conscience thinking idly on the people he/she cares about, or could be percieved as those individuals trying to wake Shepard up from his/her unconscious state. "

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TheRealMithril wrote...

The question is this. If they are being sneaky, how much did that little bit of 'fun' cost them? I am certainly not enjoying my immersion in the game being ripped apart. It would require a lot from them to bring back the love I once had for ME. I haven't touched the game for several days now. I stopped caring about it. Good work, that was really... hmm.. 'fun'. Thanks for ruining it.

Next time you decide to play the psychological cliffhanger, do it ingame, not game to dlc. This have hurt you bad as well.



Hasn't cost them a dime yet. They're still making bank from sales I'm sure. But remember this, word travels fast. It could quite easily put a hinderance and wrench in the gears as people start saying that "The game is awesome, but omg the ending was horrid." In fact, I'm pretty sure my sister isn't going to be getting any of the games now because of how passionate I am about this movement. So there you go EA and BW, there's almost $100 bucks you won't be getting.

It may not seem like much as you rake in millions of dollars from this game. But be wary... It starts to add up.

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TheRealMithril wrote...

The question is this. If they are being sneaky, how much did that little bit of 'fun' cost them? I am certainly not enjoying my immersion in the game being ripped apart. It would require a lot from them to bring back the love I once had for ME. I haven't touched the game for several days now. I stopped caring about it. Good work, that was really... hmm.. 'fun'. Thanks for ruining it.

Next time you decide to play the psychological cliffhanger, do it ingame, not game to dlc. This have hurt you bad as well.



This could be becsue the game was pushed through; it has been done by EA before look and Dragon Age 2 it was pushed through production. Another sigh of it being pushed through it Tali's photo; if you have not seen it, it has crated a lot of disapointment

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@Ziajin: 'Cost' is a relative term. It doesn't always refer to money.

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Kezza wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

The question is this. If they are being sneaky, how much did that little bit of 'fun' cost them? I am certainly not enjoying my immersion in the game being ripped apart. It would require a lot from them to bring back the love I once had for ME. I haven't touched the game for several days now. I stopped caring about it. Good work, that was really... hmm.. 'fun'. Thanks for ruining it.

Next time you decide to play the psychological cliffhanger, do it ingame, not game to dlc. This have hurt you bad as well.



This could be becsue the game was pushed through; it has been done by EA before look and Dragon Age 2 it was pushed through production. Another sigh of it being pushed through it Tali's photo; if you have not seen it, it has crated a lot of disapointment


I don't get why Tali's photo is a dissapointment. Sure, it's based off a stock photo - but I still appreciate it. I smiled a bit when I finally got to see her face, since I've been curious since the first game.

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I still say Tali's photo was bioware making a troll/joke towards the fan obsession over Tali.

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@Kezza: I did see the photo. And I have the original photo of the actual model as well (she is just painted over in photoshop)

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TheRealMithril wrote...

@Ziajin: 'Cost' is a relative term. It doesn't always refer to money.


True, true. Reputation and pride tend to be the ones going down the drain with this. The ones that "really" matter.

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Bionic Weapon wrote...
I figured that, but no one has reached out to the voice actors and asked questions about future dlc voice recording?


I don't know. Considering the silent from the devs, I think we could assume the actors wouldn't be allowed to answer either. Worth the shot maybe but I don't hope very much.

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Sterenn wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...
I figured that, but no one has reached out to the voice actors and asked questions about future dlc voice recording?


I don't know. Considering the silent from the devs, I think we could assume the actors wouldn't be allowed to answer either. Worth the shot maybe but I don't hope very much.


My sentiments exactly. I bet BW was like "SHHHH DON'T SAY ANYTHING!" to the VA's. -_____-

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I am idiot I just deleted my career because I was not watching which yes I am clicking. So I have to play it again until the "ending" :(

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Sterenn wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...
I figured that, but no one has reached out to the voice actors and asked questions about future dlc voice recording?


I don't know. Considering the silent from the devs, I think we could assume the actors wouldn't be allowed to answer either. Worth the shot maybe but I don't hope very much.

They are probably under contract to not say a word. I would rather wait a little bit to get a clear answer. They are going to have to choose their words carefully. The situation in here is casutic enough. Once they finally post, it will be like lighting a match while sitting in a tub of gasoline.

Modifié par FsDxRAGE_v2, 13 mars 2012 - 10:54 .


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Katosu wrote...

Kezza wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

The question is this. If they are being sneaky, how much did that little bit of 'fun' cost them? I am certainly not enjoying my immersion in the game being ripped apart. It would require a lot from them to bring back the love I once had for ME. I haven't touched the game for several days now. I stopped caring about it. Good work, that was really... hmm.. 'fun'. Thanks for ruining it.

Next time you decide to play the psychological cliffhanger, do it ingame, not game to dlc. This have hurt you bad as well.



This could be becsue the game was pushed through; it has been done by EA before look and Dragon Age 2 it was pushed through production. Another sigh of it being pushed through it Tali's photo; if you have not seen it, it has crated a lot of disapointment


I don't get why Tali's photo is a dissapointment. Sure, it's based off a stock photo - but I still appreciate it. I smiled a bit when I finally got to see her face, since I've been curious since the first game.


Because this is how they should have done it.
http://social.biowar...5/index/9861750 
I don't understand why they wouldn't involve the fanbase a month or so before Release (or what ever phase of the game allowed you to get to the photograph scene). That kind of PR is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. And all your artist has to do is look at the photo and pseudo-copy, he/she doesn't have "think up" the image. And no one would be going "Bioware was lazy", unless your just a tool...which case about a 10s of thousand fans would come eCurbstomp you :D

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LPKerberos wrote...

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My team mates magically teleported from Earth to the Normandy which was in the middle of using a Mass Relay for no apparent reason giving them a silly reason to crash land on an unknown garden world where half of them will die due to the the food on the planet likely only catering to one or the other types of metabolisms.


Cut off from the beam after shep goes through the crew shuttles up to the normandy or joker come to pick them up, in an effort to reach the citidel, the largest WMD in all creation is building up energy and no one knows exactly what it will do, you bet you ass they got outta the area.
The relays were NOT destroyed, undeniable evidence being sheps still alive, if the relays went up everything in sol would have been wiped out, the red lines on the galaxy map was just showing the path of the energy.
Given the relays are in fact intact and the normandy no doubt has a beefy distress signal once they don't report in it wouldn't be long till they're found.

Anything else?


The problem is: Watch closely. When the energy is transmitted to the Sol relay, it charges in the Mass Effect field for a few seconds before it gets shot out to the other relays by the effect. Close after the shot, but when the machine is still intact and the little circles turning, the mass effect field has disappeared. It carried on with the energy. So, Sol would not blow up. A later relay would though.  And with every really destroyed, there is no ME universe anymore, as the ME is "Widely lost" for a long time. Backup plan or not, the planets lack supplied to fund a project as big as a mass relay...I mean: Half of earth, Thessia and Palavan are ruins.


there's no evidence that other relays blew up, all we have to go on is the fact the crucible says the relays would be destoyed but we know when a relay goes it takes a system with it, given shep lived we know for a fact the sol relay didn't blow making the crucible wrong or lying which calls in to question whether the other relays blew, there's no evidence to suggest the rest of the relays went up.

I agree there should have been more explaination out of the gate but the argument that the endings don't make sense or there's no 'happy ending' i think is wrong.

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Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again :(

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DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again :(

The only damn thing pulling me towards playing it again is Tali. That goes for all you Liaramaners and Garrusmancers, too. Those characters are so strong.

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@Gowien
There are two distinct outcomes possible for your squadmates that run toward the beam. Some of it is only touched on in cut content, the other actually turns up in game. I believe it depends on your EMS.

1. If your EMS is low, when Shepard asks if anyone else made it to the citadel, Anderson will reply with "everyone else was dead or too wounded to move forward." If you get this line, then your squadmates died at the base of the conduit, in which case you can usually find their corpses nearby after getting blasted but before entering the conduit.
2. If your EMS is high - I don't know the cutoff, but I made it with I think 3.3k or so - Anderson will instead reply with "Everyone else was forced to fall back." If you get this line, then your squadmates were slightly behind you on the run up, saw people get fried, and somehow made it out. In this scenario, Joker and two other squad mates will get out of the Normandy at the end, safe and sound. The two squad mates are, in order of priority as far as I can tell, are Edi if she lives, your LI if you have one, then the squad you took to the beam.

Now, last but not least: There's an unused line in the audio files that indicates that Joker was supposed to provide close air support with the Normandy. Presumably he picked up your squad mates.

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At the end of the day, the fact that they used stock images in the game is not a big deal. There are far bigger things to worry about. Like the current ending.

It might seem lazy but it's not something I care about - at all. As it stands, I think the photo suits Tali fine. It's likely it was a last minute addition. They're perfectly within their rights to use stock images so I don't know why people are being so cray cray about it.

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Benathorn wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

When the press statement hits, let me know and i will join in

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?


The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.


I would join this as well. Bioware deserves an apology ,if this turns out to be their original plan, and I would gladly give them one. :)

I'm not going to apologize. There wouldn't be this "mistrust" if they communicated with us in the very first place. I can understand their reason why they don't want to say anything about these endings - the game hasn't launched yet in other parts of the world and they don't want to spoil anything. However, a simple reassurance from them could've gone a looooooong way. Is it that hard to tell us "don't worry, be patient?"  So no I'm not going to apologize and neither should any of you. Any negative reaction towards their crappy ending is justified. <_<

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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again :(

The only damn thing pulling me towards playing it again is Tali. That goes for all you Liaramaners and Garrusmancers, too. Those characters are so strong.


Agreed, I will do it for Garrus but it will still hurt in the end...

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Ivon wrote...

Katosu wrote...

Kezza wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

The question is this. If they are being sneaky, how much did that little bit of 'fun' cost them? I am certainly not enjoying my immersion in the game being ripped apart. It would require a lot from them to bring back the love I once had for ME. I haven't touched the game for several days now. I stopped caring about it. Good work, that was really... hmm.. 'fun'. Thanks for ruining it.

Next time you decide to play the psychological cliffhanger, do it ingame, not game to dlc. This have hurt you bad as well.



This could be becsue the game was pushed through; it has been done by EA before look and Dragon Age 2 it was pushed through production. Another sigh of it being pushed through it Tali's photo; if you have not seen it, it has crated a lot of disapointment


I don't get why Tali's photo is a dissapointment. Sure, it's based off a stock photo - but I still appreciate it. I smiled a bit when I finally got to see her face, since I've been curious since the first game.


Because this is how they should have done it.
http://social.biowar...5/index/9861750 
I don't understand why they wouldn't involve the fanbase a month or so before Release (or what ever phase of the game allowed you to get to the photograph scene). That kind of PR is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. And all your artist has to do is look at the photo and pseudo-copy, he/she doesn't have "think up" the image. And no one would be going "Bioware was lazy", unless your just a tool...which case about a 10s of thousand fans would come eCurbstomp you :D


I'm perfectly happy with Tali's face, but that's my preferences.

While yes, they could involve the Fans in the process, I think that's just a little bit too entitled to suggest that the fans should get to decide what Tali looks like. Bioware's the one that made the character, and they -finally- answered many people's requests to show her face.

Instead of a positive response, they sort of get thrashed for it.

In the end, it's different perspectives, but if you take out the other factors and look at it for what it is - as a picture of Tali, without all the other factors of 'This is what she should have looked like!' or 'This is what they should have done!' or 'They used a stock photo!', I think many people would hopefully feel more content with the picture.

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The character development, and awesome plot, on the whole rest of the game, and really the whole rest of the series, is why the ending was such an underwhelming let down.

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DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again :(


I have to .......... now, but I will do my last save before arrival on Earth

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Benathorn wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again :(

The only damn thing pulling me towards playing it again is Tali. That goes for all you Liaramaners and Garrusmancers, too. Those characters are so strong.


Agreed, I will do it for Garrus but it will still hurt in the end...


I just got past Liara's romance scene in the game and called it quits; really that's the only reason I played through the game (kind of) a second time; Ash and Liara were worth it :wub:

I'd love to do my old Tali Shepard again, but I just can't bear playing this game a 3rd time with the ending the way it currently is :(