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[FsDxRAGE_v2]

This explains all.

[slipliker]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...


This explains all.

lol

Btw I'm really starting to believe (or there is more to that, I think hope) that all this really was a dream, that Bioware couldn't just leave us with this crap. That Troll Effect thingy

Am I a slowpoke? 

Modifié par slipliker, 13 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[Ziajin]

Well, I'm off to bed everyone. And I don't recall any lines with Anderson about my squad... I had almost 7k assets n stuff. Chose destroy. Liara and Garrus were the only ones who got off the Normandy with Joker, no one else did >_< anywho! Off to bed. Farewell, and good night. Hope the morning brings good news, which I doubt it will.

[hismastersvoice]

Phydeaux314 wrote...
The two squad mates are, in order of priority as far as I can tell, are Edi if she lives, your LI if you have one, then the squad you took to the beam.

Correct on EDI, possibly correct on LI (I picked Liara and lo and behold she did show up), but the third person doesn't have to be a memeber of your final squad. I went in with Javik and EDI, Garrus popped his head out of Normandy.

Could be the game tracks the time you spent with each teammate during the game's combat missions (I took Garrus pretty much every time I could, same for Liara.)

[Tamcia]

This must have been a dream.

The level of quality just drops down too much for BW to miss something like this. Comparing how awesome the game is and how the last minutes just ruined it - just a huge gap in between.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Also, this is got me.

[Ziajin]

hismastersvoice wrote...

Phydeaux314 wrote...
The two squad mates are, in order of priority as far as I can tell, are Edi if she lives, your LI if you have one, then the squad you took to the beam.

Correct on EDI, possibly correct on LI (I picked Liara and lo and behold she did show up), but the third person doesn't have to be a memeber of your final squad. I went in with Javik and EDI, Garrus popped his head out of Normandy.

Could be the game tracks the time you spent with each teammate during the game's combat missions (I took Garrus pretty much every time I could, same for Liara.)

Think you're right there bud. I spent most of my missions with my fav individuals. My LI Liara and Garrus (Who is pure awesome) so I think that's actually the reason. Cause I took neither of them in my squad. (Didn't want them to die!)

[KuceJb]

They should've picked Drew's endings, not their own. I'm sure there was an sissue with the rights.

[illutian]

Katosu wrote...
I'm perfectly happy with Tali's face, but that's my preferences.

While yes, they could involve the Fans in the process, I think that's just a little bit too entitled to suggest that the fans should get to decide what Tali looks like. Bioware's the one that made the character, and they -finally- answered many people's requests to show her face.

Instead of a positive response, they sort of get thrashed for it.

In the end, it's different perspectives, but if you take out the other factors and look at it for what it is - as a picture of Tali, without all the other factors of 'This is what she should have looked like!' or 'This is what they should have done!' or 'They used a stock photo!', I think many people would hopefully feel more content with the picture.

And if it was just that I don't think it would matter. But the sky of the end scene with the old man and grandchild, that's another Stock image. Then you have this:

http://img20.imagesh...31595120489.jpg 

Shows that ME3 was either pushed by Bioware Execs or EA Execs that wanted to start racking in the cash. Ignore the banning one, because that's total bull**** that Account ban means " I " don't get to play a single player game " I " paid for. And EA is all ready taking serious heat for that (in other games).

So, all that (image link) + "the ****ty ending" + "Day 1 DLC that centered around important stuff (hello PROTHEANS!)" means that anything else that isn't a "so-shiny-piece-of-gold-i-can-see-my-reflection" is garnering extreme criticism.

[AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again

The only damn thing pulling me towards playing it again is Tali. That goes for all you Liaramaners and Garrusmancers, too. Those characters are so strong.

Same here.  I was really surprised at how strong of a character Liara was in this game.  She was always pretty weak, in my opinion, in the first two games.  Until the Shadow Broker DLC at least.  My first playthrough was the one I stayed loyal to Liara through all three and it was a kick to the head how stong she came across.
I am in your boat though, I am playing through again just to see how my romance with Tali compares.

[Commander_Fezz]

Well 900+ pages and still no word from Bioware...

[nitefyre410]

Man at this point the Tali photoshop face issue is moot and because it looks like a masterpiece compared to this endings a fan fiction author can fix in 5 minutes.

[Tajah Silver-Sparke]

I get the ending and I too was disappointed by the lack of real choice. It all boiled down to choosing a color and doing some multiplayer for my single player game (dont get me started on that). I hated the ending and was as emotionally affected as you all here. I read the theories floating around the boards and there are some really creative people out there who should be working for Bioware. The truth is more likely that EA wanted the game pushed out and Bioware wasn't finished and had to rush it out. EA is experiencing financial difficulties right now and needs the money that ME3 can bring in. While Bioware is cryptic telling us to 'hold on to our saves' , that could just mean that DLC is coming for us to buy so we can continue playing for a little bit longer, NOT that there is a great ending conspiracy.

Fact is, gamers have invested 5 years in this series and are now experiencing a kind of death with the end of Sheperd's story. We are going through the phases of loss and the first phase is denial. Especially with such a poor executed ending, it is easier to try and find ways to justify that there is a Bioware ending coming rather than accepting that our journey with Sheperd is over and that the ending gave us no closure. The end was poorly done, making the wound even deeper. Players are trying to find meaning in any graphic, sound, word, to try and ease this immense disappointment and so hallucination and indoctrination theories are created. While I would LOVE to believe that either of these possibilites would be true and that Bioware is just waiting for the perfect time to spring them on us, it is more likely that the studio ran out of time and put out an inferior product. Maybe even Bioware underestimated the impact that the ME3 universe has had on the players and how attached we all have become and thought the ending was just fine.

I hope I am wrong but I don't think I am. We are grasping at straws because we don't want to say goodbye, especially under these circumstances.

[SkaldFish]

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.

Whoa, hold on now. Let's back up the truck here. I agree that there's evidence to support the idea presented in the video. But think about this from a sales / marketing / PR perspective. Why would BioWare have provided such obscure clues (that don't even always appear, depending on your readiness score) in a sub-par, "what were they thinking" ending when they had to have some notion that there would be "I can't believe it's this bad" negative blowback?

Remember a rule in the writer / reader contract: Do not deceive the reader. This kind of misdirection device is fine somewhere before the last pages of a novel, where the Big Reveal is already there later on, and the reader understands the need to suspend judgment for a short time because they haven't finished the book yet. Here, we've turned the last page, we've read the epilogue, we've gone back and looked again, and then we've closed the book. We have been given all the cues that tell us we are done, and a great big bag o' stuff we don't understand that could mean any number of things, including the result of a rush to release.

As far as I'm concerned, if BioWare has done something like this:

• they flubbed the execution, resulting in this outcry - a pretty questionable business decision, IMO, given that they've lost revenue because of it. You'll rarely find a VP of Marketing who'll agree to a gimick that involves negative publicity and lost revenue.
• they damaged their trust relationship with users even further by subjecting them to negative emotional responses -- in some cases strong ones -- all for the sake of a cheap trick. Doesn't that feel mean to you? Think about what some people who've posted here have said about the effect the ending had on them. Even if you just don't get why someone would respond so strongly to a game, you must acknowledge that your inability to understand doesn't make their responses any less real.
• it may well go down in history as second only to New Coke on the "Worst Marketing Gimicks of All Time" list.

If things were to play out this way, why in the world would I want to apologize in a situation where I was completely punked and could not possibly have known that I shouldn't have voiced my objections?

Sure, I'll be happy about the news, I suppose, but my opinion of BioWare will have been fundamentally altered, because they were willing to pull a publicity stunt at my expense. That would merit an apology, all right -- but not from me.

Modifié par SkaldFish, 13 mars 2012 - 11:19 .

[AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ]

Also, could we please stop saying it was pushed through because of EA? What is with the hate of EA and making money? Big deal, they like money. So do I, therefore I buy EA and make some money myself since it is a publicly traded company. Also, are you all forgetting the release was delayed three months? How does EA ram release through while delaying original launch by three months?

[ukartet]

Commander_Fezz wrote...

Well 900+ pages and still no word from Bioware...

This is the worst thing of it.

[Matt_gekko88]

Gowienczyk wrote...

I still say Tali's photo was bioware making a troll/joke towards the fan obsession over Tali.

Well, this would be pretty mean.

[DBHErazor]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Also, this is got me.

Rofl funniest **** ever, laughed out loud

[Bob3terd]

I hope bioware makes some kind of comment of some kind. The fact that people have to come up with theorys about the ending inorder to make sense of it is worrying, more so that im coming to agree with them regardless of logic because i dont want to believe this is the real end.
I cannot accept that somthing so well crafted would come to such a horrid end, a very literal deus ex machina "god out of the machine".

[AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ]

SkaldFish wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Andyrew_ wrote...

I'm probably going to get flamed or ignored but the question now is how will 270,000 people stand up and admit that they may have misunderstood the ending?

The same as we started the storm with. A thread. I will gladly open a thread that is dedicated to an excuse to Bioware for misstrusting them like this. People can join if they want.

Whoa, hold on now. Let's back up the truck here. I agree that there's evidence to support the idea presented in the video. But tthink about this from a sales / marketing / PR perspective. Why would BioWare have provided such obscure clues (that don't even always appear, depending on your readiness score).in a sub-par, "what were they thinking" ending when they had to have some notion that there would be "I can't believe it's this bad" negative blowback?

Remember a rule in the writer / reader contract: Do not deceive the reader. This kind of misdirection device is fine somewhere before the last pages of a novel, where the Big Reveal is already there later on, and the reader understands the need to suspend judgment for a short time because they haven't finished the book yet. Here, we've turned the last page, we've read the epilogue, we've gone back and looked again, and then we've closed the book. We have been given all the cues that tell us we are done, and a great big bag o' stuff we don'[ understand that could mean any number of things, including the result of a rush to release.

As far as I'm concerned, if BioWare has done something like this:

• they flubbed the execution, resulting in this outcry - a pretty questionable business decision, IMO, given that they've lost revenue because of it. You'll rarely find a VP of Marketing who'll agree to a gimic that involves negative publicity and lost revenue.
• they damaged their trust relationship with users even further by subjecting them to negative emotional responses -- in some cases strong ones -- all for the sake of a cheap trick. Doesn't that feel mean to you? Think about what some people who've posted here have said about the effect the ending had on them. Even if you just don't get why someone would respond so strongly to a game, you must acknowledge that your inability to understand doesn't make their responses any less real.
• it may well go down in history as second only to New Coke on the "Worst Marketing Gimics of All Time" list.

If things were to play out this way, why in the world would I want to apologize in a situation where I was completely punked and could not possibly have known that I shouldn't have voiced my objections?

Sure, I'll be happy about the news, I suppose, but my opinion of BioWare will have been fundamentally altered, because they were willing to pull a publicity stunt at my expense. That would merit an apology, all right -- but not from me.

I agree, this game was not meant to be a pyscological thriller.  It was not supposed to be Inception or The General's Daughter or The Butterfly Effect.  It was supposed to be an action RPG.

[wulf3n]

AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ wrote...
What is with the hate of EA and making money? Big deal, they like money. So do I, therefore I buy EA and make some money

It's not that they want to make money. its that they only want to make money.

I could go on forever about why I don't like EA but the thing that irks me the most, is how they treat their employees.

You don't work for EA they own you. 

"They claim ownership over any competing product - this includes indie games - done by employees, even on their own time." 

[sanmar]

Benathorn wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

DBHErazor wrote...

Its been a few days now since I finished the game, and im still sad and feeling let down. Never want to play the damn thing again

The only damn thing pulling me towards playing it again is Tali. That goes for all you Liaramaners and Garrusmancers, too. Those characters are so strong.

Agreed, I will do it for Garrus but it will still hurt in the end...

I feel the same, but in my case it's Kaidan. I think in my second playthrough I will only play the game till Cerberus base. The romance scene is very beautiful, so I will stop ME3 with this. I don't want listen Kaidans line "I can't lose you again". It hurts so much

[SipThatSoju]

Sorry if this is a repeat of another person's post but I think this picture is worth keeping alive and viral.

Sloppy execution. I would've waited longer for the game if I knew this load of bs was going to be applicated. http://img20.imagesh...31595120489.jpg

[Jetfire99]

Good night people, hold the line. I'm passing out now.

[lex0r11]

anyone knows if it is available world wide now?