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[ViperAlvein]

AdrynBliss wrote...

DazenCobalt17 wrote...

deathscythe517 wrote...

AdrynBliss wrote...

I'm gonna put forth an idea that is gonna be unpopular.

The very notion that there is even a snowballs hope in hell of there being free official alt ending is beyond absurd, no matter how many people sign up.

You guys are smart, you all at least have some idea of how the development process works and how meticulously it's planned out.
Does ANYONE here honestly believe they will slow DLC development and compromise other DLC sales by working on an ending which will be a public admittance to people not liking their product in the first place, will take god knows how much money, time and resources and may well require rehiring VA, some of which may already be contracted to other work?

You know why BW hasn't said anything? because people are still out there buying it. I guarantee you a couple weeks from now they will turn round and say 'yeah..no we're not doing that, but thanks for your feed back'

Let it go.

I would rather resist and it be all for naught than give up because of bloody pessimism. Honestly they made Zaeed 'free', they can stomach making the ending fix free, the fact there's at the very least an even split between people defending Bioware and criticizing Bioware OUTSIDE OF BSN shows me that it's not just simply about that. Honestly, I freaking hate how a company think its reputation will be tarnished if it admits there is a problem, you know how well that worked out for BP? Not that freaking well, most companies that do admit there a problem and make amends for it gain positive popularity, those that ignore and ignore and ignore...well yeah, how well did BP's propaganda campaign go? Not well.

I couldn't have said it better myself, kudos

I guess the point of my post was that it's entirely probable that due to lack of time, resources and money, as well as the possibility of VA already contracted to other projects it may well be simply that it's just not possible to meet this 'need'.
If that's the plain old truth of it could people accept that or will they be call ing BW liers and everyother name under the sun?

To sum it up. The ****storm will become a hurricane of ****

[Elanor]

www.youtube.com/watch

Lol, I love that videos.

[Matt_gekko88]

<< While waiting for a reaction, listening to this.

[wook77]

AdrynBliss wrote...

I'm gonna put forth an idea that is gonna be unpopular.

The very notion that there is even a snowballs hope in hell of there being free official alt ending is beyond absurd, no matter how many people sign up.

You guys are smart, you all at least have some idea of how the development process works and how meticulously it's planned out.
Does ANYONE here honestly believe they will slow DLC development and compromise other DLC sales by working on an ending which will be a public admittance to people not liking their product in the first place, will take god knows how much money, time and resources and may well require rehiring VA, some of which may already be contracted to other work?

You know why BW hasn't said anything? because people are still out there buying it. I guarantee you a couple weeks from now they will turn round and say 'yeah..no we're not doing that, but thanks for your feed back'

Let it go.

Uh, you do know they're already compromising DLC sales and new game sales, right? That's why the game price has dropped so much on, say, Amazon, in a week. Plus - you now have over 30k fans that have expressed that they hate the endings. Say only 50% of them don't buy the DLC - that's 15k DLC that didn't get purchased. They also have an anime coming out. People are fairly pissed... how many of the pissed fans are going to buy the anime? 

I pointed this out earlier but it bears repeating - the adage in customer service is that a pleased fan tells 1-3 people about their pleasant experience. An irate customer tells at least 9 people. So you see 30k pissed off people that are pissed enough to find the forums, post their outrage and find a way to show their frustration.How many people have they told about the BS at the end of the game? 

For every one of those fans, there are multiple other, more casual gamers, taking Gamestop up on their willingness to give you back $30 towards the regular edition of the game while the $30 deal is worth it. Those people aren't going to buy DLC because they don't own the game any longer. More future sales compromised. And a lot of them aren't here asking for better endings because they simply don't care enough about it. They just returned it, thus compromising a new game sale AND a possible DLC sale to Bioware.

I had a conversation with my brother about a game and we were really excited about it until he realized that it was put out by Bethesda. He instantly wouldn't buy it because that company left a bad taste in his mouth with a previous game's ending. He's a very casual gamer, not on the boards, or anything else. If it happens towards Bethesda, it'll happen towards any company.

Your customer service matters. Ask Livejournal what they think about the exodus of customers since their anti-LGBT cleansing. Ask IHOP what they think about the exodus of customers after their **** ups. Ask Denny's about the exodus and subsequent return of customers after their ****ups and continued positive response to said **** ups. Customer service matters. A swift, empathetic (but perhaps not sympathetic) response is important to future sales.

It's simple economics.

Pretending that all of these fans that are irate are just going to go ahead and buy the content and that only the people on this board are pissed is very shortsighted. The Gamestop boards are lit up with this. IGN can pretend that the ending(s) is awesome but their boards aren't pretending that way.  I'm quite certain that not everyone over there is commenting here. Hell, even Yahoo Answers hates the ending and has a bunch of comments on questions about the endings. It's not just the few of us here.

TL;DR - their future sales of new game and DLC are already compromised. They need to work to get these customers back because now it's not an issue with the game, it's an issue with a lack of response to customer complaints.

[Teleraine]

I get that some people are happy with the endings and I accept that and wish them well.

Yet in 10 years of customer service positions ignoring a customer who has a grievance normally doesn't end well, I've made mistakes and owned up to them and been chewed out by management obviously companies cant do that because?

Most of the time people accept that customer service is a mouth piece for company policy of stoneewalling you with default replies and long automated telephone calls that get you nowhere and an almighty high phone bill.

[cantido21]

In the end, I just fail to see how the same people that came up with the rest of the story could come up with this.

Seriously, if it was a dream sequence and you want to fool everyone into thinking that was the end fine, ha ha joke is on us. If that is really the case, the intelligent thing would be to run credits and then have Sheperd picking picking up his gun and continuing on the fight. Stopping it like this was not a healthy move. If you're not going to add on to the end then just say so! This is not the time to be playing hard to get with your response, people aren't happy over this! I just guess that I expected something better from Bioware as a company, i really really did. I don't think I will let you take me on a 5-6yr roller coaster again.

[TamiBx]

Toby Shepard wrote...

lucidfox wrote...

Fixed.

It's DA2 all over again. "How dare they not like our masterpiece writing!" And I liked DA2. But this...

I'm not a Bioware fan per se, I just happen to love their Mass Effect trilogy, so I don't know what happend in DA2 / how Bioware reacted to it.
If you are right, this is pretty funny actually. :>

I liked DA2. I mean, it wasn't as amazing as DA:O, but the "not mute main character" thing made up for it (ever since ME, I can't play video games with mute main characters...nope). Bioware did akwnoledge that we didn't like it, and said they would take feedbacks to improve the next game. Then they released a better DLC (Legacy), and...ME3 came along, so it kind of stopped. Did they do anything else?I don't think Bioware could have done anything to fix a whole game. This is different. This is one segment of the whole game, not the whole game itself. 

[KaiserinKai]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

<< While waiting for a reaction, listening to this.

I that song, I have it on my iPod~

I'm listening to this~

[Pinkflu]

Almost 1k pages, people. Hold the line, soldiers. Hold the line...

[Tira_Lu]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

<< While waiting for a reaction, listening to this.

now thats a catchy song

[WarBaby2]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

<< While waiting for a reaction, listening to this.

... and people still don't get they outrage? How many games seeded something like this?

The song is cheesy and funny... but hey.^^

[Toshiro M]

Few hours ago i finished mass effect 3. Everything until the ending was perfect and epic but ending was very disappointing. I thought that i will see Shepard with his love and how others back to their homes. Reaction after ending:

[Denethar]

cantido21 wrote...

In the end, I just fail to see how the same people that came up with the rest of the story could come up with this.

Seriously, if it was a dream sequence and you want to fool everyone into thinking that was the end fine, ha ha joke is on us. If that is really the case, the intelligent thing would be to run credits and then have Sheperd picking picking up his gun and continuing on the fight. Stopping it like this was not a healthy move. If you're not going to add on to the end then just say so! This is not the time to be playing hard to get with your response, people aren't happy over this! I just guess that I expected something better from Bioware as a company, i really really did. I don't think I will let you take me on a 5-6yr roller coaster again.

One of the writers commented on twitter that Walters wrote the ending. I assume he overreached in an attempt to do something profound.

On another note, comments about us not understand the ending are the most annoying I've seen so far. Philosophical and plain **** dressed up as Philosophical are two different things.

[Ffelan]

Speaking of emotional devastation, don't know if this was heard here yet. It's the cut dialogue between Shep and Anderson in their last scene together.

FemShep:
MaleShep:

Warming: might need a hanky on hand

Too bad this was cut. It's so much more powerful.

[whoisthis98]

i got 20 bucks that says he was indoctrinated. That way they can make an mmo and make it as ****ty as possible and get all the money possible after all whats a mass effect mmo without reaper bosses

[Nilofeliu]

Truth be told, it has been 6 days since I finished the game and I stilll feel hollow. I wish I had never played Mass Effect at all. I wish I had never even heard of it. At least I would feel fine...

Great Job Bioware... May you rest in peace...

[Teleraine]

Seriously Game company mergers haven't really benefited the RPG market or the consumer as a whole we seem to be getting more generic, more controversial titles then anything else these days ofc EA + Bioware, Square and Enix, Activison + Blizzard.

I pay for entertainment and a good payoff like with any medium and you expect a consistent quality why should I have to accept everything given to me as the holy grail of thats it lump it and if I complain im in the wrong? C;mon!! Lifes crap atm I dont want to have my escapism be crap as well

[Tira_Lu]

Nilofeliu wrote...

Truth be told, it has been 6 days since I finished the game and I stilll feel hollow. I wish I had never played Mass Effect at all. I wish I had never even heard of it. At least I would feel fine...

Great Job Bioware... May you rest in peace...

I cant evan bring myself to play anything, or evan watch a film... evry ending I see in other medias is like a slap in the face. Why can they get good endings but a nearly perfect game like Mass Effect not.

[Game_Fan_85]

Right now I think the sh!t storm is 10 times bigger than that storm on Mars. Doesn't look good does it BioWare?

[Rothgar49]

http://www.computera...ioware-blow-it/

Vote now!

Modifié par Rothgar49, 13 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[BlackDevil06]

Almost makes me want to play Knights of the Old Repubic again to see how a real ending looked like. Hell good old Freelancer had a nice ending. Story cheesy as hell but I could care less.

[TSC_1]

I really don't understand BW's PR stance, here. They should say something, anything. Leaving this to fester is a terrible idea.

Modifié par TSC_1, 13 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[WarBaby2]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Right now I think the sh!t storm is 10 times bigger than that storm on Mars. Doesn't look good does it BioWare?

They still think they can weather it... I hope they are proven wrong, for once.

Modifié par WarBaby2, 13 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[xX_VMH_Xx]

I created this account after beating the game since it left me feeling completely empty and drained. Mass Effect 3 felt epic all the way until you met the starchild. Just the moment before that, I was tearing up inside when I watched my Shepard crawl to the console while on the deathbed to do what it takes to save the galaxy.

To find solace, I found this forum and I found it to have a lot of interesting information. The ending also feels too wrong to be something from Bioware (I can go into a rant about all the plot holes but people have already done that for me, so I'll skip over it). With 99% of the story being so epic, I refuse to believe that the writers were unaware that the ending was bad...unless it somehow leads into some crazy master plan.

Between the "trolling" by ME twitter: "All are good choices. And don't be too bummed about the ending. Next time you play, it may be different. ;-)"

What Mike Gamble said: "Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

And how Bioware has basically stayed silent on this forum/topic, I feel like something big has to be coming up. I am hopeful sometime after March 15th (JP release date since they mentioned wanting to wait until people had a chance to finish the game), they will reveal what all the heck the ending was about. Then that "next time [we] play", we would want to "hold onto [our] copy of me 3 forever".

That leaves the question, why would Bioware do this to us, their fanbase? Maybe it was a roundabout way to make us feel unease / anger so we feel what our Shepards were feeling at that point in the story. Maybe it was to get us all into the mindset of war where things are not all rosy all the time and there are moments where we will despair. But a victory after despair has greater meaning than one that is just handed to us. If this is true, Bioware is a huge troll and this will be one of their d***ist moves, but in doing so, they will be great. No other company will be able to make our emotions crash to their darkest depths, only to raise it up to soaring heights again.

Now I am an optimist, and I can be totally wrong, but like Shepard, I will not give up hope until the very end. And Bioware, if this is true, please don't make this a common occurrence. If this is not true, please give some thought to our petition.

[Sywen]

I really do need to hear something soon.