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KHReborn wrote...

Roamingmachine wrote...

Here's a lesson for bioware how to do a bittersweet ending in a scifi setting:

I really do wonder what happened in the writers head when he wrote the ending of ME3....


Never watched Babylon 5, but that looks great. Joker would have been a great narrator for that.


Or Garrus.Or anyone of the cast, really, so long as there would have been proper closure like that.

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HyperionTheGreat wrote...

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Surely the Japanese gamers know of what's happening. I wonder how it is in their local boards...


Meh, dunno...
Is ME such a big thing in Japan? I always thaught they don't really like "non-japanic" rpgs.

Yeah, especially if they can't be modded with hentai stuff.


Uhm isn't that just a bit racist?


I lol'd

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KHReborn wrote...

Roamingmachine wrote...

Here's a lesson for bioware how to do a bittersweet ending in a scifi setting:

I really do wonder what happened in the writers head when he wrote the ending of ME3....


Never watched Babylon 5, but that looks great. Joker would have been a great narrator for that.


Yes Babylon 5 most definitely did a wonderful job with the Bittersweet ending.  Miss that show something awful, was one of the good ones.

I really hope Bioware has something else planned, I truely do. 

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If Bioware doesn't do something, the only hope is someone to mod an ending in somehow or an expansion.

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Dear Bioware,

I want you to know I understand why Mass Effect can't really have a happy ending in order to tell the story you're trying to tell: because the Reaper cycle is how the universe stays in balance, and you can't upset the balance of the universe (by doing any of the choices), without consequence (destroying the Mass Relays, Shepard most likely dying). I just wish you had done so in a way that :

1) made sense
2) didn't invalidate every choice I've made in 3 games that were all about choices

Point 1) So, Garrus and Kaiden were in my party. Weren't they supposed to be chraging towards that beacon with me? When only me and Anderson made it, I assumed they died, and cursed myself for brining my two favorite people to their deaths. But then at the end, they both walk out of the Normandy on some unknown planet? So, did they just turn and run the other way? Hop on a shuttle (with I'm assuming all my other companions who were also on earth) and travel through a ground warzone, to get picked up by the Normandy in a space warzone, and then just fly away? So all my companions are suddenly cowards (very fast, lucky ones)?

It only really makes sense for them to stay on earth. If that had happened, even if I died, I would still know all the people I cared about were safe. Instead they're all stranded on some planet where they'll eventually die. But since I apparently took in a breath at the end, I could imagine that someone would find my body and I would possibly someday reunite with them.

But wait. Doesn't a Mass Effect Relay getting destroying kind of wipe out all life in whatever system its in? At least that's what happened in Arrival. So...since pretty much everyone in the galaxy was in the Sol system fighting the reapers, and the Sol system had a Mass Relay in it, wouldn't they all have been killed, anyways? I guess the civilians on other planets would have survived, but what's the point of the "worst ending" being "earth gets destroyed" when it should have been destroyed no matter what, based on the relays always getting destroyed?

Point 2) All the endings invalidate all the choices you make. I felt really bad after the Krogan thing, because Eve died due to a choice I made in ME2. I was kicking myself for that - I knew that because of that, after the reaper war, things wouldn't end up as good with the krogan/galaxy relations because she died. Well.....apparently that doesn't matter.

Why did I even bother recruiting the Quarians and the Geth? Things honestly would have ended up better for the Quarians if I had left them alone, since destroying the reapers also destroyed the geth, so the Quarians would have gotten their homeworld back. Instead, the quarians just got their homeland back but will never see it again.

Yes, I will always be pissed off and disappointed that Shepard doesn't get to ride off into the sunset with Kaiden and live happily ever after - but I understand that the entire point of the story makes a happy ending like that impossible. I just wish it could have been done better.

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Hey guys check this article out. It actually doesn't portray the fans as spoiled brats! =)

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Pabloskie wrote...

I think the ones that are holding the line is BioWare with their continued silence. If that is part of some sort of strategy that is some serious discipline not to answer back...that or they just don't give a damn.


It's a public relations strategy to ride this out. If Bioware or EA says something, it gives fans a reason to respond again. However, if they say nothing, eventually fans will give up complaining eventually. Most, if I can call this "protests" end up like this. People can't be mad forever...

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Maybe if everyone asks nicely Valve will make us an ending.

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KHReborn wrote...

Roamingmachine wrote...

Here's a lesson for bioware how to do a bittersweet ending in a scifi setting:

I really do wonder what happened in the writers head when he wrote the ending of ME3....


Never watched Babylon 5, but that looks great. Joker would have been a great narrator for that.


The classics...I loved them.

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PKchu wrote...

If Bioware doesn't do something, the only hope is someone to mod an ending in somehow or an expansion.

If they manage to violate EA agreement and hack the game we will like it. Sad to realize.

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 I dont have anything against the story ending. But not getting to know anything at all about what happened afterwards, that was just crap. What the heck bioware created a great universe and great companions characters, and we learn nothing of what happens to them??

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Help bring the discussion to the masses of reddit: www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/quo0t/mass_effect_3s_horrific_ending_vs_childs_play/

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Hm, Why don't Bioware check the quality of the plot of his best games?

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ashley_actually wrote...

Commander chinFuzz wrote...

BioWare should be proud.

Let me say that again.

BioWare should be proud. They created a game, a cast of characters, a universe that has elicited a massive response from the community. They should have come back to work and started giving hi-fives and partying for the first day. For five years we all enjoyed the entire Mass Effect universe, finding little details in replays and codex summaries that drew us in even further.

But now they need to sit down, and look at what they've done, either inadvertently or on purpose. The ending of ME3 was so counter to the core belief of Shepard that it just doesn't make sense. For 99.95% of all three games, gamers were hypnotized, needing to finish that next mission, trying to figure out when their LI got back into the fight, discovering another painful fact about their friends.

We are not here to harass them, nor to demand. This is their game, their vision, and they struggled and slaved to produce these games. All I want, is an ending that is fit for Shepard. They might say the current ones do, and explain how so. If that is the way they are to keep it, I would like that explanation. If it is not, please, just give us a straight answer to there is something on the horizon for us.

Just remember people. You are here because BioWare made such a good game, and we believe it's such a shame to have gone out that way. In with a kick, though with a scream, and out without even a whimper, that is the tale of Shepard. I'll just hope they respond to us sooner rather than later.

Hold the line people.


What do the kids say? Bless this post. 


As long as we make sure BioWare understands we love their game, but for the end, we have to hope they'll fix it.

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http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/711

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Sending this video to all the people who did not liked the ending. Its the last few minutes of supernatural. Damn it fits here well



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I'm starting to see some arguments forming between some people. Please guys, we're all in this together if we start fighting amongst ourselves this whole movement will crumble and will be for naught. We have to stay strong and accept that some people were happy with the ending. And to those that like the ending, it's not that the rest of us don't get it, we all expected there would be options for tragic endings to the story. But for many of us, we wanted our main Shepards to be happy and to succeed even if it is a little cheesy. There's a reason that most of us have more than one Shepard though, we wanted to see all the endings, tragic, happy, and everything in between.

I know there have been people who have the said the same things as I have here, but this thread is moving fast and I think we need a little reminder of why we're here every once in a while.

Stay strong,
Hold the Line

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Ya know what Forbes really have gone up in my opinion while not all of it has been positive and some of it a bit rude they have had their pulse on it since the beginning. So cheers to Forbes I might actually read more articles now.

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BaileysChick wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...ood-business/2/ Yet another article


It's nice to know that some journalists do get it, unlike IGN, Kotaku etc...

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Hold the line! No matter how futile it may seem or how desperate, the broken ending needs fixing!
Also: apporiate babylon 5 clip that seems to bring to mind a certain salarian :P

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Necroscope wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Surely the Japanese gamers know of what's happening. I wonder how it is in their local boards...


Meh, dunno...
Is ME such a big thing in Japan? I always thaught they don't really like "non-japanic" rpgs.

Yeah, especially if they can't be modded with hentai stuff.


The game has Rapers though...

Reapers I mean.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I will upload seven zetabyte of porn to EA/BioWare
They have to react to THAT :P


LOL

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edit: oops, double post

Modifié par raeting, 13 mars 2012 - 04:12 .


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Tyranniac wrote...

Remember to stay friendly and civil everyone! We don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about us!
Nice to see the new Forbes article, feels good to know not everyone is against us.
Also, I said this before, but try to avoid discussing that hallucination/indoctrination stuff, it is outright bad for our cause:

If we start to try and explain and justify the ending, we give them a reason not to fix it.

Let's hope there's still some chance for this to work out...

Agreed. And don't read into these game bloggers with a press pass. They think customers need to shut up and be happy to give up their money for artistic  junk. The icing on the cake was how the blogers compaired works of fine art to a video game. Thats just reaching for anything right there. :unsure:

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Ikalise wrote...

Pabloskie wrote...

I think the ones that are holding the line is BioWare with their continued silence. If that is part of some sort of strategy that is some serious discipline not to answer back...that or they just don't give a damn.


It's a public relations strategy to ride this out. If Bioware or EA says something, it gives fans a reason to respond again. However, if they say nothing, eventually fans will give up complaining eventually. Most, if I can call this "protests" end up like this. People can't be mad forever...


they may not stay loud and angry but they do stay bitter...if they dont say anything at all or just go on about other unrelated topics its almost as bad as saying "we dont care what you think" and people will remember that