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andy310

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 http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/03/12/mass-effect-3-opinion-video

Colin is completly misinformed, we arnt upset because we simply just "did not like the ending"

I agree with him that there is no need to harass the developers, and i hope none of us are that is not the way to win an argument.

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Sywen wrote...

We have raised over $1800 already. Spread the work and keep up the good work.


:blink: Holy cow, seriously?! That... is pretty damn awesome. I think this is really sending a great message on behalf of what we are trying to do here, and for a good cause, so it's win-win. I'm normally very careful about online-donations (I guess I'm just terribly old-fashioned in that regard), but I really think I'm going to add to this number.

FugitiveMind wrote...

Teleraine wrote...

That forbes article is nice and stunningly unbiased as far as I can see. Its refreshing what with all the negativity coming from a lot of media and other gamers that what we say dosent matter either.


The kicker is "that forbes article" is actually FOUR articles in the past few days by 3 (I think, maybe 2) different writers.

If someone told me that our biggest support would come from a financial magazine, I'd have told them they were nuts...


I know right? That just blows my !%$§ing mind.

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Ikalise wrote...
When one of us sees a new DLC or game from Bioware, many will remember the endings of ME3 and say, "no thanks, I do not want to get my hopes up again..."


The sad thing is, if they offered to fix this and I had to pay for it, my money is already theirs. Expansion, DLC, $10, $40... I'd pay it to see the ending Shepard and the Galaxy deserved. It would make these games live again, for me.

The other side of the coin is that if this was planned from the start, I hate them. If this is the legit ending, I hate them. Baldur's Gate to Mass Effect 3. It was great ride, Black Isle/Bioware.

I did my part, too bad you didn't do yours. Story I crafted... /spit

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Darkspazztic

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Damn good to wake up and see this thread still going. :D

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The Child's Play donation is already up to over $2.7k. I'm glad something good could come out of all of this.

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Yuoaman wrote...

HyperionTheGreat wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Why did you have to die!?
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You're to sexy to just leave me like this! Not in the stupid way you decided to kill yourself...


Ok hold the phone... Where did that badass jacket come from.


If there isn't one in the casual section of the armor console, then I'm guessing Collector Edition stuff?


My guess is that it's what the formal outfit from Kasumi's DLC turns into.

And it's glorious.


Maaaaan, that's so unfair.  Femme!Shep gets this ridiculous dress(?) with a zipper up the back.  The one in the Kasumi DLC looked SO MUCH BETTER.

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Matt_gekko88

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Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

HyperionTheGreat wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Why did you have to die!?
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You're to sexy to just leave me like this! Not in the stupid way you decided to kill yourself...


Ok hold the phone... Where did that badass jacket come from.


If there isn't one in the casual section of the armor console, then I'm guessing Collector Edition stuff?


My guess is that it's what the formal outfit from Kasumi's DLC turns into.

And it's glorious.


Really?  It's a Kasumi DLC bonus outfit?  I just figured that BW finally gave Shep some decent casual clothes to do his sexyness justice :wub:


What? No, this ME3-outfit has nothing to do with Kasumi or the Kasumi DLC for ME2. Indeed, you receive a hot new outfit with this DLC - for ME2. But this leather-jacket is standard for ME3.

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I love how today, in a week, we'll hit 1000 pages. Not including the hundreds of other pages from the hundreds of other threads (and the fact that virtually every major thread has been hijacked as well because of the endings).

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Darkspazztic wrote...

Damn good to wake up and see this thread still going. :D


Wake up? What time is it where ever you are?
(17:29 here)

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I feel that the writers couldn't figure out how to end it so they made a Deus Ex type ending with the 3 choices. I don't want rainbows and unicorns, but why didn't they make several types of ending and let the choices we made for 3 games determine the outcome? They shouldn't let every ending have the SR2 wrecked and the crew scattered. I mean the only way to make it more ridiculous would be to take the kid out and replace him with Montey Hall (look him up if you're too young). I don't understand why my LI was on the Normandy with Joker when at the beginning of the mission she was on earth. I don't think it's realistic that she would leave - and no my LI wasn't military so couldn't be ordered to leave. I mean why was Joker leaving the Sol system either by FTL or Relay anyway? The only reason I've heard that makes sense is that he was trying to escape the crappy ending. Again, yes I know it's war, and yes I was pretty sure Shepard wasn't going to survive, but do it justice. For example as my Shepard was dying during the ending where living and synthetic dna was combined he thought of Anderson (ok, father figure), Ashley (ok, long time friend), Joker (chauffeur/pilot), but didn't think of his LI? I don't know, it just feels like they tacked on the end 30 minutes before the game was due to be mass produced and sent out. I do like the multi-player (I was surprised) so I don't think they should have left that out to spend more time on the ending, but maybe they should have pushed the release back to April?

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Aramina wrote...

The Child's Play donation is already up to over $2.7k. I'm glad something good could come out of all of this.


Holy crap.

This is definitely going to get someone's attention.

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USKnight25 wrote...

Ikalise wrote...
When one of us sees a new DLC or game from Bioware, many will remember the endings of ME3 and say, "no thanks, I do not want to get my hopes up again..."


The sad thing is, if they offered to fix this and I had to pay for it, my money is already theirs. Expansion, DLC, $10, $40... I'd pay it to see the ending Shepard and the Galaxy deserved. It would make these games live again, for me.

The other side of the coin is that if this was planned from the start, I hate them. If this is the legit ending, I hate them. Baldur's Gate to Mass Effect 3. It was great ride, Black Isle/Bioware.

I did my part, too bad you didn't do yours. Story I crafted... /spit


that's the thing, i had already figured i'd probably spend an additional 20-30 dollars on DLC....now, i'll never give em another cent (that's EA and bioware, and also dark horse) until this is fixed or at least explained

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Darkspazztic

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Darkspazztic wrote...

Damn good to wake up and see this thread still going. :D


Wake up? What time is it where ever you are?
(17:29 here)


9:30 AM...West Coast, USA :P

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Some more feedback:

- http://www.play-mag....-ending-sucked/

- http://www.vg247.com...ffect-3-ending/

- http://manatank.com/...y-spoiler-free/

- http://www.manaobscu...ect-3s-mistake/

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Well, if/when BioWare actually comes out with a proper ending as DLC I think it'll be appropriate to quote an old general:

"We have won a victory, but may I never see such another." - Count Maurice de Saxe, French General, 11th of May 1745, battle of Fontenoy

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Yuoaman

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$2985 raised, everyone.

This is just amazing.

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I got Babylon 5 vibes the moment I talked to the Reaper on Rannoch. I'd assumed they were the Shadows, turns out they believe they're the Vorlons. Wanted a Sheridan ending. "Like giants in a playground. - Now get the hell out of our galaxy!"

Also went and checked some Japanese forums. Unfortunately my Japanese is very rusty (I took Chinese and then branched out... not recommended) and their major issues are:
1: Something about an armor pack that isn't cool/interesting or not what they were promised.
2: Whether or not it will be possible to have a Garrus/Liara/Shepard threesome.
3) Whether or not Vega is a virgin.

I'll check back after launch.

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Ugh, still just mad about the ending.... Casey said every choice would matter and there would be no A,B or C choice for an ending. Well he was right instead we got. red, blue, green....... And i say end cause lets face it there are no multiple endings here just genocide and more genocide....

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Nex_Legis wrote...

ahtf wrote...

Well I truly believe that complaining about the ending becuase its "sad*" is ridicolous". Do you demande every movie that oyu dont like the ending to change to. The complaint that they give no information what happens to the characters and the universe I think is an argument. Bioware always did this before, why not now?


The keyword is "choice".

Depending on my decisions in all three games, it should be possible to reach a happy ending. That does not mean that there should only be a happy one!
Those who prefer a bittersweet, in their eyes perhaps more heroic ending, shall get it, and those who'd rather see the galaxy blow up should be served aswell.



Sorry this I actually call spoiled. Sure complain about plotholes, or the lack of a ending, that is things that they should have fixed. But that you cant get exactly the ending you like?? Sure you can complain about that, but thinking that the company is horrible and demanding to get the ending you want is silly. Why not write a letter to whoever directed titanic and complain that the boat sunk.... 


The complains about the choices dosn't mather would also have been solved by actually telling what actually happened in the galaxy, with the krogans etc. 

Modifié par ahtf, 13 mars 2012 - 04:32 .


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ahtf wrote...

Well I truly believe that complaining about the ending becuase its "sad*" is ridicolous". Do you demande every movie that oyu dont like the ending to change to. The complaint that they give no information what happens to the characters and the universe I think is an argument. Bioware always did this before, why not now?


Is this a movie? No, it's a video game that from the start Bioware promised us that "Your actions, morale choices, and things you do in ME 1, 2 and 3 leading up till the end will have an impact on how the story ends." They promised us that there would be multiple endings in ME3 that would cater to what we did in the previous two titles. And they said that they WOULD NOT just give us 3 different choices. Which they did...

This is very different from a movie, with a movie we're not the ones controlling it. The director can end it how he chooses because it's their work. Video games more so what Bioware video games are, are stories in which you shape your own destiny. Mass Effect took what they did in Baldur's gate, Kotor, and Dragon Age and upped the effect of your decisions. By giving us the RGB endings that basically end the same way, they lied and stole from us the abillity to shape our Shepards destiny like they promised.

In the first game and second what you did really reflected on the endings, more so the actions in the first leading into the second. however when it came to three our decisions didn't amount to jack in the end. Because some reaper space Child-god ghost wizard said that we only get three choices.

With movies we can't change them because it's not out story, with Mass Effect it was as much our story as it was Biowares. We didn't go down a linear path like most games and quite some RPG's, we were actually able to have multiple outcomes based on our choices. Mass Effect 3 took this away from us in the last 20 minutes of the game.

We're also mad because this sham of a Deus Ex Machina ending left us empty and the story full of plot-holes you could drive a planet through.

After all that I think we have a right to feel like we got cheated, and deserve endings that would suit how all of us played these games.

/end rant

Modifié par Wolfgang_Ocelot, 13 mars 2012 - 04:33 .


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Kitten Tactics wrote...

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Agreed. And don't read into these game bloggers with a press pass. They think customers need to shut up and be happy to give up their money for artistic  junk. The icing on the cake was how the blogers compaired works of fine art to a video game. Thats just reaching for anything right there. :unsure:

Especially comparing them to a video game that was developed with the PROMISE of multiple, widly different endings, that took our actions in to account.  Throughout the entire series, they have STRESSED that this is our story as much as theirs.  It's not the same as changing Hamlet. 

Agreed. This is about how they sold us a game that was about our choices mattering. This is also about 5 years of being told this statement. Now when your sold something base on a lie, as a customer you have the right to be upset. You also have the right to say "fix this problem". Anyone who tells you different is just trying to con you out of your hard earned money.

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Yuoaman wrote...

HyperionTheGreat wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Why did you have to die!?
Image IPB

You're to sexy to just leave me like this! Not in the stupid way you decided to kill yourself...


Ok hold the phone... Where did that badass jacket come from.


If there isn't one in the casual section of the armor console, then I'm guessing Collector Edition stuff?


My guess is that it's what the formal outfit from Kasumi's DLC turns into.

And it's glorious.



Indeed it is. That is awesome attire.  I'll be looking for that when I start playing. Anyway this thread continues to be awesome. So keep it up and as long it continues to grow know that:

I am your shield and I am your sword.

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finaly a leaked photo from a BW meeting

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Modifié par halloween20, 13 mars 2012 - 04:33 .


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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

HyperionTheGreat wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Why did you have to die!?
Image IPB

You're to sexy to just leave me like this! Not in the stupid way you decided to kill yourself...


Ok hold the phone... Where did that badass jacket come from.


If there isn't one in the casual section of the armor console, then I'm guessing Collector Edition stuff?


My guess is that it's what the formal outfit from Kasumi's DLC turns into.

And it's glorious.


Really?  It's a Kasumi DLC bonus outfit?  I just figured that BW finally gave Shep some decent casual clothes to do his sexyness justice :wub:


What? No, this ME3-outfit has nothing to do with Kasumi or the Kasumi DLC for ME2. Indeed, you receive a hot new outfit with this DLC - for ME2. But this leather-jacket is standard for ME3.


Maybe I got ripped off, I don't remember a hot outfit in ME2.  I remember that awful gay space cowboy outfit though.

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If the endings really are ambigous in the sense that shepard is being indoctrinated i dont know if thats a good or bad thing. It fixes alot of the blatant plotholes but leaves us with no ending at all?