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[Gallion33103]

MintyCool wrote...

In the end 95 percent of you will continue to fester on this forum and buy the next Bioware product.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213

OH i love crystal balls...How bout you stroke that ball a few more times, and come up with something constructive like telling me what the winning lottery numbers are. Do that and il make my own damn game.  I will make a ending based off every color.

[Meteor_VII]

IndelibleJester wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

alberta wrote...

It is quite obvious Boiware has received advice from a trouble-shooting PR firm. I follow politics and am very familiar with the trouble-shooting PR firms strategy - which is - wait it out and the uproar will die out on it's own. 

The lead developer just retweeted someone bashing us.

Sigh. I don't mean that offensively, btw. Just bringing it to light.

What?  Link, please

https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne 

Wow that guy linked yet another article that bashed us. Hope thats not the whole feeling of the bioware staff.

[MordiMoro]

Hi Friends, any news?

Modifié par MordiMoro, 13 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[RussianOrc]

djarlaks10 wrote...

I just finished the game, and... why the **** have I spent 30 hours of my life playing this ****? Can I pretend that ME3 didn't happen?

welcome to the fight....

[jerobolod]

I finished Mass Effect 3 less than 24 hours ago. I've been to BSN a few times as a lurker but I've never actually posted anything here before. Heck I had to do a password recovery on my EA account to log in. Anyway, I didn't know where to post this and here seemed as good a place as any.

I'm from the UK, so I started playing ME3 on Friday. I was aware of a lot of stuff surrounding people not being happy with the ending of the game. I figured it was just people who were upset that ME3, and Mass Effect in general, was over. I didn't delve into it any further than "the end of the game sucks" because I didn't want to be spoiled. I'd just finished the mission on Rannoch when I noticed all of this and bawled my eyes out at the scene with Legion's sacrifice (still one of the most beautiful parts of any science-fiction I've ever experienced). How in the world could this game have that bad an ending, considering everything so far had been perfect? I chalked it up to fanboys whining.

Oh man, I'm so sorry guys. After the game was over I just sat for about an hour and looked at the screen. Watching Shepard stand in front of the galaxy map after the game had helpfully reminded me to buy the DLC that wasn't out yet. I couldn't process my own emotions, heck I still can't. I'm a writer and I'm sitting here feeling the need to get all of this out and I can't figure out how to say it.

I knew, like many other people having read the posts in the forum almost obsessively since yesterday, that there was probably no happy end for Shepard to be found here. I was okay with that to the extent that I could be. As long as the story provided closure, was emotionally satisfying and consistent to the Mass Effect universe as I had experienced it. But it was none of those things. Plot holes aside (and the whole thing is pretty much one, gigantic plot hole) I feel like my heart has been ripped out of my chest. It's not just a game, it's a living, breathing universe that I got to be a part of for five years. This was supposed to be the big finish, the epic ending to the best science-fiction saga of a generation. Instead I'm sitting here without a damn clue what just happened to the people I grew to care about, and what the hell happened to my Shepard who suddenly had a full personality shift when talking to the stupid little kid, or what happened to the world I helped shape, except that I doomed the galaxy with red space magic.

As far as I'm concerned, if there's no Epilogue-type DLC, my Mass Effect story ends with Shepard sitting in the best seats in the house, watching as the Crucible destroys the Reapers without dooming galactic civilisation, and no stupid Catalyst. So maybe I don't get to see Shepard and Liara have their blue baby girls, that's fine, because at least there is a future for everyone else. When I can possibly bring myself to do it, I'll figure something out to try and give myself some closure providing Bioware hasn't trolled me. And to be honest even if they have, it's pretty despicable of them to do that. They must know the trauma it was bound to cause.

What the hell Bioware!?! I defended you for all this time and THIS is how you repay me!?!

Anyway, that was pretty long. Dunno if anyone will read it but I felt like I needed to get it off my chest. None of my friends have finished Mass Effect 3 yet and I get the feeling that even if I warned them what was about to happen I doubt they'd believe me. Just like I didn't believe all the warnings before I finished it, the cycle cannot be broken. If you read all of this, thanks.

I'm going to go and find that hug thread I saw a few hours ago.

[Aedera]

Awesome. $4600 for child's play. If nothing else, I have new found admiration for the members of this community.

[Polat995]

Ivon wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

MintyCool wrote...

In the end 95 percent of you will continue to fester on this forum and buy the next Bioware product.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213

Thanks for your helpful input. Have a nice day.

They're right.

How many here would pay for a DLC that 'wraps things up'?

Not trolling in the least. But, they know you'll keep buying their stuff. I mean how many of you were urked about the Day 1 DLC, thought it was total BS to have to pay extra for 'presumably key story bits' (Prothean History).......and still bought that Collectors Edition (or should say finalized since you probably pre-ordered months ago like me ). Soon as they saw that, they knew it was 'go for launch' on charging extra for the ending.

Sorry, but I won't pay any single player or multiplayer DLC unless they fix the ending. Why would I buy DLC when I know game end in crappy way and they try deceiving us by rolling autosave back before Cerberus Headquarters mission.

I won't buy Mass Effect: Deception book too.

[Nathos]

Meteor_VII wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

alberta wrote...

It is quite obvious Boiware has received advice from a trouble-shooting PR firm. I follow politics and am very familiar with the trouble-shooting PR firms strategy - which is - wait it out and the uproar will die out on it's own. 

The lead developer just retweeted someone bashing us.

Sigh. I don't mean that offensively, btw. Just bringing it to light.

What?  Link, please

https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne 

Wow that guy linked yet another article that bashed us. Hope thats not the whole feeling of the bioware staff.

Like i said before,

Guys like that are just trying to do this and see what happens.

Modifié par Nathos, 13 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[Darth Garrus]

Hello, everyone. Back here to hold the line. At least as much as I can between work and study. I´m going to post some more thoughts about all this later. But, so far, do we have any answer or clue?

[Sywen]

No sadly

[Gallion33103]

jerobolod wrote...

I finished Mass Effect 3 less than 24 hours ago. I've been to BSN a few times as a lurker but I've never actually posted anything here before. Heck I had to do a password recovery on my EA account to log in. Anyway, I didn't know where to post this and here seemed as good a place as any.

I'm from the UK, so I started playing ME3 on Friday. I was aware of a lot of stuff surrounding people not being happy with the ending of the game. I figured it was just people who were upset that ME3, and Mass Effect in general, was over. I didn't delve into it any further than "the end of the game sucks" because I didn't want to be spoiled. I'd just finished the mission on Rannoch when I noticed all of this and bawled my eyes out at the scene with Legion's sacrifice (still one of the most beautiful parts of any science-fiction I've ever experienced). How in the world could this game have that bad an ending, considering everything so far had been perfect? I chalked it up to fanboys whining.

Oh man, I'm so sorry guys. After the game was over I just sat for about an hour and looked at the screen. Watching Shepard stand in front of the galaxy map after the game had helpfully reminded me to buy the DLC that wasn't out yet. I couldn't process my own emotions, heck I still can't. I'm a writer and I'm sitting here feeling the need to get all of this out and I can't figure out how to say it.

I knew, like many other people having read the posts in the forum almost obsessively since yesterday, that there was probably no happy end for Shepard to be found here. I was okay with that to the extent that I could be. As long as the story provided closure, was emotionally satisfying and consistent to the Mass Effect universe as I had experienced it. But it was none of those things. Plot holes aside (and the whole thing is pretty much one, gigantic plot hole) I feel like my heart has been ripped out of my chest. It's not just a game, it's a living, breathing universe that I got to be a part of for five years. This was supposed to be the big finish, the epic ending to the best science-fiction saga of a generation. Instead I'm sitting here without a damn clue what just happened to the people I grew to care about, and what the hell happened to my Shepard who suddenly had a full personality shift when talking to the stupid little kid, or what happened to the world I helped shape, except that I doomed the galaxy with red space magic.

As far as I'm concerned, if there's no Epilogue-type DLC, my Mass Effect story ends with Shepard sitting in the best seats in the house, watching as the Crucible destroys the Reapers without dooming galactic civilisation, and no stupid Catalyst. So maybe I don't get to see Shepard and Liara have their blue baby girls, that's fine, because at least there is a future for everyone else. When I can possibly bring myself to do it, I'll figure something out to try and give myself some closure providing Bioware hasn't trolled me. And to be honest even if they have, it's pretty despicable of them to do that. They must know the trauma it was bound to cause.

What the hell Bioware!?! I defended you for all this time and THIS is how you repay me!?!

Anyway, that was pretty long. Dunno if anyone will read it but I felt like I needed to get it off my chest. None of my friends have finished Mass Effect 3 yet and I get the feeling that even if I warned them what was about to happen I doubt they'd believe me. Just like I didn't believe all the warnings before I finished it, the cycle cannot be broken. If you read all of this, thanks.

I'm going to go and find that hug thread I saw a few hours ago.

Pretty much how i feel too man. A very large majority in this thread feel the same way. It might just be a game, but its a game with (or was) a epic story. A story that for 5 years and a huge number of playthroughs (at least for me) only added to the attachment of the game and its story. Only to have it end...in a different colored explosion.

[Copperwings]

jerobolod wrote...

I finished Mass Effect 3 less than 24 hours ago. I've been to BSN a few times as a lurker but I've never actually posted anything here before. Heck I had to do a password recovery on my EA account to log in. Anyway, I didn't know where to post this and here seemed as good a place as any.

I'm from the UK, so I started playing ME3 on Friday. I was aware of a lot of stuff surrounding people not being happy with the ending of the game. I figured it was just people who were upset that ME3, and Mass Effect in general, was over. I didn't delve into it any further than "the end of the game sucks" because I didn't want to be spoiled. I'd just finished the mission on Rannoch when I noticed all of this and bawled my eyes out at the scene with Legion's sacrifice (still one of the most beautiful parts of any science-fiction I've ever experienced). How in the world could this game have that bad an ending, considering everything so far had been perfect? I chalked it up to fanboys whining.

Oh man, I'm so sorry guys. After the game was over I just sat for about an hour and looked at the screen. Watching Shepard stand in front of the galaxy map after the game had helpfully reminded me to buy the DLC that wasn't out yet. I couldn't process my own emotions, heck I still can't. I'm a writer and I'm sitting here feeling the need to get all of this out and I can't figure out how to say it.

I knew, like many other people having read the posts in the forum almost obsessively since yesterday, that there was probably no happy end for Shepard to be found here. I was okay with that to the extent that I could be. As long as the story provided closure, was emotionally satisfying and consistent to the Mass Effect universe as I had experienced it. But it was none of those things. Plot holes aside (and the whole thing is pretty much one, gigantic plot hole) I feel like my heart has been ripped out of my chest. It's not just a game, it's a living, breathing universe that I got to be a part of for five years. This was supposed to be the big finish, the epic ending to the best science-fiction saga of a generation. Instead I'm sitting here without a damn clue what just happened to the people I grew to care about, and what the hell happened to my Shepard who suddenly had a full personality shift when talking to the stupid little kid, or what happened to the world I helped shape, except that I doomed the galaxy with red space magic.

As far as I'm concerned, if there's no Epilogue-type DLC, my Mass Effect story ends with Shepard sitting in the best seats in the house, watching as the Crucible destroys the Reapers without dooming galactic civilisation, and no stupid Catalyst. So maybe I don't get to see Shepard and Liara have their blue baby girls, that's fine, because at least there is a future for everyone else. When I can possibly bring myself to do it, I'll figure something out to try and give myself some closure providing Bioware hasn't trolled me. And to be honest even if they have, it's pretty despicable of them to do that. They must know the trauma it was bound to cause.

What the hell Bioware!?! I defended you for all this time and THIS is how you repay me!?!

Anyway, that was pretty long. Dunno if anyone will read it but I felt like I needed to get it off my chest. None of my friends have finished Mass Effect 3 yet and I get the feeling that even if I warned them what was about to happen I doubt they'd believe me. Just like I didn't believe all the warnings before I finished it, the cycle cannot be broken. If you read all of this, thanks.

I'm going to go and find that hug thread I saw a few hours ago.

Thank you Jero... that summed up exactly how I feel with more eloquence
than I could ever possibly manage... thank you *hugs*

[Wolfgang_Ocelot]

Sadly it seems the staff at Bioware want to sit on their hands and not answer our questions about why they did this to us. So far all we get is them saying we aren't smart enough to comprehend an ending that made no sense.

[ahtf]

Nex_Legis wrote...

ahtf wrote...

of course your choices would mather, the galaxy looks different because of the choices you made = they mathered. 

The problem now is that the ending don't tell us a thing about what our choices led to= they didn't mather.

The galaxy is different now, because I made decisions at all, but the galaxy is not different according to the choices I picked.
Just adding plot hole fixes where previous decisions do have an impact would still not be enough, as the current ending doesn't make sense in ME-terms.
If BioWare really wanted the space kid to be featured in the game, that's fine with me, but it should be possible to convince it, arguing with Geth/Quarians and Joker/EDI. Obviously that would only work if things actually turned out that way and would lead to the relatively "happy" ending I've imagined.

If you didnt understand me. Our choices for like the krogan had some effect, but we havnt been told what. That is a problem according to me. That is also what i want changed and think we deserve changed. A longer ending telling us what happend.

The space kid I dont love or hate, I dont think it is a huge plothole, havnt seen anyone really stating one either, sure it comes out of nowhere but that is not the same as a plothole. I can agree that I dont think it fits 100% to the ME theme but its up to the writers. It is this part I  think is spoiled. To demand something change and saying bioware/EA are evil because you don't like the endings story is spolied.

That we don't get to see what your choices led to in the end is not spoiled. Its something every story should tell and also what they promised..

[alberta]

IndelibleJester wrote...

alberta wrote...

It is quite obvious Boiware has received advice from a trouble-shooting PR firm. I follow politics and am very familiar with the trouble-shooting PR firms strategy - which is - wait it out and the uproar will die out on it's own. 

The lead developer just retweeted someone bashing us.

Sigh. I don't mean that offensively, btw. Just bringing it to light.

Yes that's all part of the strategy - get yourself surrogates to enduldge in a campaign to belitting the opposition - a very normal strategy in politics.

[illutian]

Polat995 wrote...

Ivon wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

MintyCool wrote...

In the end 95 percent of you will continue to fester on this forum and buy the next Bioware product.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213

Thanks for your helpful input. Have a nice day.

They're right.

How many here would pay for a DLC that 'wraps things up'?

Not trolling in the least. But, they know you'll keep buying their stuff. I mean how many of you were urked about the Day 1 DLC, thought it was total BS to have to pay extra for 'presumably key story bits' (Prothean History).......and still bought that Collectors Edition (or should say finalized since you probably pre-ordered months ago like me ). Soon as they saw that, they knew it was 'go for launch' on charging extra for the ending.

Sorry, but I won't pay any single player or multiplayer DLC unless they fix the ending. Why would I buy DLC when I know game end in crappy way and they try deceiving us by rolling autosave back before Cerberus Headquarters mission.

I won't buy Mass Effect: Deception book too.

You're a minority though 
If more thought as you (and I), then the Industry would be much more vibrant. And much less filled....Quality would reign over Quantity.

[Shadowolfx5]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

Has Bioware made any sort of response at all to this? I mean, just kind of a "We are aware that you are upset" kind of thing?

Not yet. There have been some subtle responces on Twitter, but nothing else. I can bet you EA/BioWare is making everyone shut up so they can get an official respose out.

That's gonna be hard since the more players that finishes mass effect 3. The more voices they gonna hear.At this rate looks like most of the mass effect comminuty gonna be at their door saying we want better ending .

[Game_Fan_85]

[quote]jerobolod wrote...
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*hugz*
Welcome to the rotten, misserable club   I finished Thursday night and the feeling still wont go away.  Noone can blame you for doubting, the game was fu**ing incredible up until the magic space lift took Shepard to the evil child so how could you not doubt?
[/quote]

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 13 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[Cossack72]

djarlaks10 wrote...

I just finished the game, and... why the **** have I spent 30 hours of my life playing this ****? Can I pretend that ME3 didn't happen?

You can do what many others are doing for now:

Pretend the last 15 minutes didn't happen and make up your own Shepard's ending in your head.

[Polat995]

Wait for Japan release date. Maybe they can say something.

[archangel1996]

here to hold the line, italians fans ready

it doesn't matter what Bioware think, what really matter is what the people think

[SystemUser]

Seems we got another war asset : http://www.escapistm...t-3-The-Process

PS : Dutch Fleet reporting in!

[DifferentD17]

Meteor_VII wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

IndelibleJester wrote...

alberta wrote...

It is quite obvious Boiware has received advice from a trouble-shooting PR firm. I follow politics and am very familiar with the trouble-shooting PR firms strategy - which is - wait it out and the uproar will die out on it's own. 

The lead developer just retweeted someone bashing us.

Sigh. I don't mean that offensively, btw. Just bringing it to light.

What?  Link, please

https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne 

Wow that guy linked yet another article that bashed us. Hope thats not the whole feeling of the bioware staff.

That is so rude, I mean alot of people here really trusted Bioware, It's like someone at Valve laughing and poking fun at you, because you may never get Half Life 3.

[IndelibleJester]

My face through the end of ME3:



Thought that might cheer some people up.