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I would like to thank everyone who is donating to the Charity. Not only are you making a difference here but you are also making a difference in a child's life. HOLD THE LINE

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dfstone wrote...

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They had a story, they told it. If you don't like how it ends that not Bioware's problem. I don't think they should change the ending for anyone. They should end it however way they want its their story, we're just along for the ride.



You would fit perfectly into their Marketing Department.


Give me a break.  I don't have postive or negative feelings about it.  The reason I played the game was to see how the story unfolded.  I look at the whole thing and it was an enjoyable ride.  Whatever plot-lines they took it on is their decision.  Doesn't change the fact that these three games comprised one of the most enjoyable video game franchises I've ever played.  The plot-line choices were Bioware's, not mine.  I didn't design this game, and guess what, neither did you.


Again you'd be perfect for their marketing audience.

No we didn't make the game, but we did get oh I don't know...how about promised that our actions and decisions would reflect in future installments of the games maybe? How what we did in 1 and 2 were going to give us different outcomes. Not just in the end after doing everything possible to fight the reapers, we get told by Space reaper god child wizard Deus Exh machina ghost that we only get three choice that end virtually the same just with the explosion a different colour.

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Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Good morning! Still holding :)

The donation drive is going fairly well...last time I checked it was over $5200 raised for Child's play.

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IndelibleJester

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Not everyone shares our opinion about the end, doesn't mean we have to insult them.

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Seriously get a grip. Its a frikken GAME. Whaaaa they didn't end it the way I want to...waaaaa! Here's a tissue...go get some sun.

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dfstone wrote...
Really?  Thats why there's a 900+ page thread and countless other threads and articles in video game sites about the ending...because everyone isn't remembering it?


gaaah, I meant in a couple months from now xD it will just be referred to as something bad but not vividly recounted...

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Customer review at amazon.com:

"I should not buy a product, from a company attempting to entertain me and when I am done with said product, I feel like I just had my dog die or something.

The entire franchise/universe is a wonderful, awesome experience and the last 10 minutes makes it all - completely worthless. Nothing you did in the previous games has any effect on the ending. Nothing you do in this game has any effect on the ending."

So, see Bioware? It's not just us!

Modifié par Polat995, 13 mars 2012 - 06:04 .


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Rheia1234 wrote...

Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Good morning! Still holding :)

The donation drive is going fairly well...last time I checked it was over $5200 raised for Child's play.


How can you tell?

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Look, any of you who've came this far and are losing hope upon what a dev has said: Do you really want them to remember this as the time that they proved that we are incapable of standing up for ourselves?

If we back down now, not only do we have to watch one of our favourite franchises reach its sad and unreasonable ending, but we have to sit there as Bioware, being leant on by their new bosses, look us in the eye as they beat us down. If we give in now, we only show that we are capable of being pushed around, and then we can pretty much expect not just Bioware, but all major companies to push the limit. We back down now, and they win, and if they do, we'll end up with more of this in the future. If we win, however, we prove that our beliefs matter, and we remind companies that they'd be nowhere if not for us, the fans, paying for their efforts and judging them accordingly. We will not go quietly. It's not about just this one problem, it's about sticking up for ourselves while we can, before company control gets out of hand and we lose one of the greatest gaming franchises to date. Let us not remember this as the day we got cold feet and gave in, we will remember this as the time when we stood up for ourselves in the face of failure. It's up to us to save the future of Mass Effect 3 and the future of all Bioware games

Ladies and Gentlemen, Hold the line!

Modifié par GroverA125, 13 mars 2012 - 06:07 .


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Edbi wrote...

Hi any news today?

Just people coming in making the same arguments against us that have been refuted time and time again already.

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zarnk567 wrote...

Jago360 wrote...

MissNet wrote...

I have to say, that our fleets are stronger with each passing day. I've created a map of our forces, geography is pretty impressive. 


How did you make that??? Very cool!


Now you should put bioware headquarters as a giant reaper, lol


Ha, and than we take the middle way (synthese) and all become a part of Casey and Gamble! We rule the ME World!!!!!!MUHAHAHA

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DifferentD17 wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Good morning! Still holding :)

The donation drive is going fairly well...last time I checked it was over $5200 raised for Child's play.


How can you tell?


http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

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Another comment on amazon.com:

"If you do buy it, stop playing just after you deal with the Illusive man on the Citadel with Anderson, after storming to the beam of light.

Everything after that point will destroy everything you love about the Mass Effect universe, trust me.

800+ page thread over at the BW forums about it, it's just that bad. "

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vboy23 wrote...

Pardon the wall of text, but here is my attempt to collate all the news that talks about what is currently happening. I've been trying to read all the posts/links/news that has been shown on the thread and I think this will help newcomers catch up on what is happening. I want this to be an impartial list of all the links (both supporters and debunkers), so if anyone finds any more news please pm me and I will gladly edit/update the list as it grows.



***SPOILERS***  You have been warned





Articles that mentioned issues that were proposed/promised/changed:

http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected

http://www.ign.com/b...ilers.250066288

These two youtube uploads are extended clips of the dialouge between Shepard and Anderson before meeting the Catalyst:
FemShep:

MaleShep:




The ending was good:

http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video

penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/why-the-ending-of-mass-effect-3-was-satifying-and-worthy-of-the-series-mass


The ending was bad:

http://www.manaobscu...ect-3s-mistake/

http://manatank.com/...y-spoiler-free/

http://www.play-mag....-ending-sucked/

http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/

http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/

http://www.gamerevol...change-it-11639

www.dealspwn.com/mass-effect-3-review-reaping-sow-96051



Retake ME 3:

http://www.vg247.com...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.forbes.co...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.ingame.ms...r-ending-411424



Petition:

http://www.change.or...tes-of-the-game



Survey / Umfrage / Enquête:
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Topics / Themen / Sujets:
ENG http://social.biowar...5/index/9512916
GER http://social.biowar...1/index/9688547
FRA http://social.biowar...9/index/9747320
POL http://social.biowar...7/index/9695107

Group / Gruppe / Groupe:
http://social.bioware.com/group/7058/

Support Signatur: (put this between [ IMG ] [ /IMG ] without free space)
EU http://i748.photobuc...5/eurofleet.jpg
UK http://i748.photobuc...ect/ukfleet.jpg
GER http://img405.images...ermanfleet1.jpg
USA http://i748.photobuc...icanfleet-1.jpg
RUS http://i748.photobuc...ussianfleet.jpg
CAN http://img.photobuck...nadianfleet.jpg

Retake Mass Effect Childs Play charity Drive:
http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play


Reposting for those catching up

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Mass Effect 3 was an epic game, couldn't fault it one bit..until the very end. Now talk about a depressing end with zero closure. Agree with most it's basically trashed the replay value. Honestly I think one of the endings should have been blaze of glory sacrifice yourself but also you need an alternative happy ever after end. Now the only question becomes do they add DLC endings or patch the game so a message pops up before the end saying "Prepare to be depressed, we recommend friends/ family be on hand and if they're not available break open the booze"

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dfstone wrote...

Seriously get a grip. Its a frikken GAME. Whaaaa they didn't end it the way I want to...waaaaa! Here's a tissue...go get some sun.


It is not about the way it went. I said multiple times that I think a dark ending like this is also possible, as well as a good ending. But BOTH should be an option depending on every decision the previous games.

As well as it is about HOW it concluded. An "end" has to "end" things, not begin a mass of questions.

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Eydris Ivo

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DifferentD17 wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Good morning! Still holding :)

The donation drive is going fairly well...last time I checked it was over $5200 raised for Child's play.


How can you tell?


One sec, I'll grab the link.

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

Top right corner.

#23993
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Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Denethar wrote...

dfstone wrote...

They had a story, they told it. If you don't like how it ends that not Bioware's problem. I don't think they should change the ending for anyone. They should end it however way they want its their story, we're just along for the ride.



You would fit perfectly into their Marketing Department.


Give me a break.  I don't have postive or negative feelings about it.  The reason I played the game was to see how the story unfolded.  I look at the whole thing and it was an enjoyable ride.  Whatever plot-lines they took it on is their decision.  Doesn't change the fact that these three games comprised one of the most enjoyable video game franchises I've ever played.  The plot-line choices were Bioware's, not mine.  I didn't design this game, and guess what, neither did you.


Again you'd be perfect for their marketing audience.

No we didn't make the game, but we did get oh I don't know...how about promised that our actions and decisions would reflect in future installments of the games maybe? How what we did in 1 and 2 were going to give us different outcomes. Not just in the end after doing everything possible to fight the reapers, we get told by Space reaper god child wizard Deus Exh machina ghost that we only get three choice that end virtually the same just with the explosion a different colour.


I never had that impression with Mass-Effect.  I didn't look at it like a huge choose your own adventure book.  Thats probably why I'm not disappointed.

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Everytime I hear Mass Effect musics, especially from the first and second games and the music from ME3 I heard before I saw the ending, I get so many feels and think, "God... it was such an amazing story."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2z28mutY1E

Trying hard to remember to enjoy the journey, and make my own end after my Shep wakes from indoctrination.

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 13 mars 2012 - 06:07 .


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zarnk567 wrote...

Jago360 wrote...

MissNet wrote...

I have to say, that our fleets are stronger with each passing day. I've created a map of our forces, geography is pretty impressive. 


How did you make that??? Very cool!


Now you should put bioware headquarters as a giant reaper, lol


frigate SSV Kostelec reporting for duty^_^

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Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Child's Play donation drive.  LInk in my sig spread the word!

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Rheia1234 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Good morning thread, how goes the war? Are we still holding the line?

Any new news or polls or petitions or anywhere I can chip in to help with the war effort?


Good morning! Still holding :)

The donation drive is going fairly well...last time I checked it was over $5200 raised for Child's play.




How can you tell?


One sec, I'll grab the link.

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

Top right corner.


But it raised close to 1200, not 5200.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 13 mars 2012 - 06:08 .


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vboy23 wrote...

vboy23 wrote...

snip


Reposting for those catching up

Thats a great compilation, could also add a few great responses that answer the same questions or arguments that keep popping up (ex: comparing the ending to a book.)

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Eydris Ivo

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LPKerberos wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Seriously get a grip. Its a frikken GAME. Whaaaa they didn't end it the way I want to...waaaaa! Here's a tissue...go get some sun.


It is not about the way it went. I said multiple times that I think a dark ending like this is also possible, as well as a good ending. But BOTH should be an option depending on every decision the previous games.

As well as it is about HOW it concluded. An "end" has to "end" things, not begin a mass of questions.


This is what I agree with. I had no issue with Shepard dying or a dark ending. There was just so many strange happenings, new introductions, frustrations and just pure bizareness that didn't make sense for the last 10 minutes.

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Hold the line!

Maaan, such a good song. >_>

Modifié par Pinkflu, 13 mars 2012 - 06:09 .