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Ivon wrote...
wicked_being wrote...
Cow Man?Ivon wrote...
Annaleah wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Is the hallucination thread still going? My fiancee was playing ME2 and EDI said there were literally pieces of Sovereign in the Normandy. Scary...
WHO friggin put pieces of Sovereign on the ship?! щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
Begins with a 'C'
and ends with 'Man'
Well...he is.......utterly crazy
wicked_being wrote...
Cow Man?Ivon wrote...
Annaleah wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Is the hallucination thread still going? My fiancee was playing ME2 and EDI said there were literally pieces of Sovereign in the Normandy. Scary...
WHO friggin put pieces of Sovereign on the ship?! щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
Begins with a 'C'
and ends with 'Man'
Modifié par vboy23, 13 mars 2012 - 07:07 .
AAAAAJKKRRRRYZZ wrote...
P_sutherland wrote...
Katsumi Liqueur wrote...
We need the asians... We need the Japan and Korea Fleet!
we have a north and south korea fleets ?did we achive peace between those two over this ?
Popular media and games are not allowed into North Korea. Communism does not allow it.
vboy23 wrote...
another article from forbes.
http://www.forbes.co...ood-business/2/
cantido21 wrote...
To my disappointment I found that EA stock is up currently....
https://www.google.c...=ob&q=NASDAQ:EA
mauro2222 wrote...
wicked_being wrote...
Cow Man?Ivon wrote...
Annaleah wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Is the hallucination thread still going? My fiancee was playing ME2 and EDI said there were literally pieces of Sovereign in the Normandy. Scary...
WHO friggin put pieces of Sovereign on the ship?! щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
Begins with a 'C'
and ends with 'Man'
*snip*
Indeed, he is behind everything... look at those udders, conspirative udders.
TheFoxBlade wrote...
Ok, I must interject. Didn't the Quarians only take the heavy fleet to Earth - I think it says the that the rest of the flotilla was still orbiting Rannoch, plus all the people that went to resettle it. Don't get me wrong, I still am holding the line, but we need to be accurate.
I am now imagining the ending playing out like this... I am pleasedTazzmission wrote...
proof endings were changed
snip
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
sumo390 wrote...
And many people haven't even finished the game yet. Imagine the numbers that could join the cause.Nilofeliu wrote...
From http://robotgeek.co....ect-3-backlash/
Rumors of a sharp price drop due to cancelled orders and the backlash have surfaced, and a quick check of Amazon.com has revealed that new copies of the game are available at retailers for around 45$ brand new. The Collector’s Edition for PC has dropped to under eighty dollars. The Metacritic score is sitting at 3.5 overall- with plenty of spoilers in the reviews, so I highly suggest against investigating. I can only imagine that Bioware’s silence either reflects them holding something back, or the company being in full-on panic mode. It would be a shame for the company to sink based on one game- especially one so storied, that gave us so many great moments in gaming. Day One DLC is forgivable. Graphical glitches can be patched. However, the trust of your customers is a precious resource that can’t easily be fixed or regained. Forbes has articles on the subject- first painting gamers as basically totally homophobic, whiny ****s. Other sites have claimed the same thing due to the actions of a few, but going on the Bioware forums shows an almost total absence of homophobia and racism. However, over time, the Forbes story has been updated again and again, with the writer slowly coming around to sympathize with those who feel betrayed. The Forbes Articles (light spoiler warnings!) are linked here.
So it seems we are finally changing something. ME3 prices are dropping, EA shares are falling. Even the article's writer acknowledge that this may be the end of Bioware, for once the trust is trully lost, it can never be regained.
EA/Bioware should be ashamed of themselves, not only for coming up with a poor ending (not to mention the game glitches and all) but especially for ignoring the playerbase and customer's concerns and complaints.
If I go to a shop and buy a 50 inches TV I won't be satisfied with a 48 inches only because the TV's designer thought it would look better on my living room.
We bought the game because of what was advertise. We bought the game because it was said many times over that our choices mattered and would affect the game endings somehow. They even went as far sas saying we would have 16 different endings. To get 3 endings which by instance are the same, is to receive a product we did not order. And all we have so far is Bioware saying "you already bought it, so it's your fault you don't like it"
Let's keep the holding my friends and comrades. We are nearly there....
And even if we get nothing in return, just watching Bioware/EA losing money and hopefully bankrupting will give me the closure and satisfaction the game didn't give....
Tazzmission wrote...
proof endings were changed
After checking these boards, bioware forums, the twitters of various people involved with the game, audio file rips as well as some information I've gathered from other sources, I decided to talk with someone who used to run their own review website who still has ties to some people in the video game industry. That includes Bioware (they had sent him early review copies of the first ME). Anyway that's not what's important. The point is what I'm about to say you can take with a grain of salt if you want. I'm not here for attention or because I'm a fanboy of bioware. I'm simply here to help you all make sense of this situation. It will make a lot of sense and put the little things you've all found together. The reasoning for the ending change was they needed more time to implement it (this was supposed to be the reason for the delay) but Kinect implementation and the desire by some people (perhaps EA) to have an ending where things are left to interpretation messed with this. The ending was quickly altered which is why things don't "fit" and there are plot holes. Anyway, below is how things were supposed to happen.
The original ending was SUPPOSED to be extremely varied. Everything remained the same up until the part when Harbinger shoots at you and your team. This is when information that has appeared here already comes into play. There were going to be various outcomes determining how you reached the citadel and it was HOW you got there that determined what endings would be available to you. The following were the different scenarios from worst to best (based on EMS and war assets)
A: Your whole squad gets wiped out (the two crew members you took with you, Anderson). You struggle to make it to the citadel. Right as you're about to make it to the beam, Harbinger talks to you, saying you've been defeated and he kills you. Joker tries to swoop down to save you, but he also gets shot down.
B: Most of your squad gets wiped out. Still only you are able to make it to the citadel. Once up there, you must confront the illusive man alone. Because of this, unless you have high reputation and either talk him down or renegade interrupt and shoot him, he kills you and tries to control the reapers, but fails as he discovers he was indoctrinated.
C: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together and make your way to the control panel where you confront TIM. The same thing plays out where you can talk him down. With high enough reputation, you can "save" Anderson but its not necessary for you to make it to the next part. Anderson dies after TIM is shot or kills himself like in the ending we got.
D: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together while you're two squad maters, who clearly survive, are holding off the reapers from following you to the citadel. Everything continues the same here as "C" until after TIM is shot and killed and the final conversation that Anderson and Shepard have (which is much longer than what we got). You get the shorter convo in C.
[The following you only see with outcome "C' and "D"] Shepard looks out at the war going on and activates the crucible. Hacketts says its not working. This is when Harbinger talks to Shepard through TIM as he lies on the ground. Harbinger tries to convince you that you've fail but you can argue with him. Harbinger says that he has your crew in his cross hairs. We see the Normandy arrive (the joker dialogue that was cut) and the rest of your friends help the two squad members you brought with you face off against Harbinger and his reaper minions.
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http://i46.tinypic.com/n49ick.jpgXXX_Inferno_XXX
Posted 3/13/2012 8:45:43 AM
message detailYou basically have a choice. You can submit to him and he claims he will spare your squad and earth until the next cycle because he is impressed that you were able to make it this far. This is when the motive of the reapers is more clearly established. Harbinger reveals that in the previous cycle, the prothean empire became too vast and they began to control all the other races, which would have prevented all of our races from developing. However, through more discussion, Shepard can uncover their true motives. They fear that they will be rivaled by something more powerful than they are (that this cycle will create AI that can topple the reapers). This implies they are merely fearful for their own survival and that is why they purge all life but they convince themselves they are protecting us.
Either way, you can submit to him and save your people or take your chances. Having 4000 EMS, not submitting to him you would lose everyone, but still eventually get to the three choices we actually got (more on this in a second). Having 5000+ and depending on how you resolved conflicts between characters and races, certain people will live or die.
After rejecting him (whether you lose everyone or not), you end up in the area where vent boy was but hes not there. It's just you and "Harbinger". He explains that a new solution is needed. The solution he tries to convince you to take is merge (to perseve his kind). But if you have high enough reputation once again, you can open the control and destroy option. Harbinger tries to talk you out of it by discussing how your races are divided and mentioning the geth incident. You convince him otherwise, and it is at this point, the control option opens next where he admits that shepard may have a perspective he never considered. Harbinger tells Shepard that if he destroys them, the relays will be destroyed as will the geth (which is true. This is the only ending where the relays are destroyed).
Now for the four endings.
If you submit to him before the three main choices, the reapers leave earth but end up wiping out every other race who haven't proved themselves worthy. Shepard dies.
If you merge, the reapers leave and like the ending we got, we see all the characters we know with green eyes as a green light brightens the sky. Shepard dies for the same reasons in the ending we got.
The control option, the reapers leave. Everyone cautiously celebrates while joker and your LI look up to the sky and wonder what exactly happened. Life goes on but its hinted that the reaper threat may return. This ending ends on a cliffhanger.
The destroy ending does destroy the relays, but its implied that with all the races on earth, they, together, will restore what they lost and will attempt to work together. if shepard lives, your LI leading your squad, will be looking for you. You are beamed back down to earth (its assumed shepard was somehow blasted into the beam? this is the only questionable part). It ends with shepard's hand coming out of the rubble and breathing. Still a cliffhanger of sorts, but you can assume they will find him/her obviously.
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http://i46.tinypic.com/n49ick.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
Katsumi Liqueur wrote...
cantido21 wrote...
To my disappointment I found that EA stock is up currently....
https://www.google.c...=ob&q=NASDAQ:EA
Oh, ****! ¬¬
ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...
Web comic from the escapist agreeing with us:
http://www.escapistm...t-3-The-Process
PurpleWhisper wrote...
Would maybe have been nice if in the 'Shepard lives' ending; instead of seeing the normandy crash, we see Shep take a breathe (just like in the actual ending) amid the rubble and then the Love interest and/or other crew member hauls her out, helps her stand so they can gaze up at the Reaperless sky together from London. Would have been the same kind of length as the others but given us hope that there is a way for Shep to be reunited with her friends in just one ending.
/End ramble
Modifié par SimonM72, 13 mars 2012 - 07:27 .
Tazzmission wrote...
*snip*
PresidentCowboy wrote...
But there there's no story to continue. The mass relays are destroyed.
Modifié par dfstone, 13 mars 2012 - 07:13 .
Tazzmission wrote...
proof endings were changed
After checking these boards, bioware forums, the twitters of various people involved with the game, audio file rips as well as some information I've gathered from other sources, I decided to talk with someone who used to run their own review website who still has ties to some people in the video game industry. That includes Bioware (they had sent him early review copies of the first ME). Anyway that's not what's important. The point is what I'm about to say you can take with a grain of salt if you want. I'm not here for attention or because I'm a fanboy of bioware. I'm simply here to help you all make sense of this situation. It will make a lot of sense and put the little things you've all found together. The reasoning for the ending change was they needed more time to implement it (this was supposed to be the reason for the delay) but Kinect implementation and the desire by some people (perhaps EA) to have an ending where things are left to interpretation messed with this. The ending was quickly altered which is why things don't "fit" and there are plot holes. Anyway, below is how things were supposed to happen.
The original ending was SUPPOSED to be extremely varied. Everything remained the same up until the part when Harbinger shoots at you and your team. This is when information that has appeared here already comes into play. There were going to be various outcomes determining how you reached the citadel and it was HOW you got there that determined what endings would be available to you. The following were the different scenarios from worst to best (based on EMS and war assets)
A: Your whole squad gets wiped out (the two crew members you took with you, Anderson). You struggle to make it to the citadel. Right as you're about to make it to the beam, Harbinger talks to you, saying you've been defeated and he kills you. Joker tries to swoop down to save you, but he also gets shot down.
B: Most of your squad gets wiped out. Still only you are able to make it to the citadel. Once up there, you must confront the illusive man alone. Because of this, unless you have high reputation and either talk him down or renegade interrupt and shoot him, he kills you and tries to control the reapers, but fails as he discovers he was indoctrinated.
C: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together and make your way to the control panel where you confront TIM. The same thing plays out where you can talk him down. With high enough reputation, you can "save" Anderson but its not necessary for you to make it to the next part. Anderson dies after TIM is shot or kills himself like in the ending we got.
D: You and Anderson make it up to the citadel together while you're two squad maters, who clearly survive, are holding off the reapers from following you to the citadel. Everything continues the same here as "C" until after TIM is shot and killed and the final conversation that Anderson and Shepard have (which is much longer than what we got). You get the shorter convo in C.
[The following you only see with outcome "C' and "D"] Shepard looks out at the war going on and activates the crucible. Hacketts says its not working. This is when Harbinger talks to Shepard through TIM as he lies on the ground. Harbinger tries to convince you that you've fail but you can argue with him. Harbinger says that he has your crew in his cross hairs. We see the Normandy arrive (the joker dialogue that was cut) and the rest of your friends help the two squad members you brought with you face off against Harbinger and his reaper minions.
---
http://i46.tinypic.com/n49ick.jpgXXX_Inferno_XXX
Posted 3/13/2012 8:45:43 AM
message detailYou basically have a choice. You can submit to him and he claims he will spare your squad and earth until the next cycle because he is impressed that you were able to make it this far. This is when the motive of the reapers is more clearly established. Harbinger reveals that in the previous cycle, the prothean empire became too vast and they began to control all the other races, which would have prevented all of our races from developing. However, through more discussion, Shepard can uncover their true motives. They fear that they will be rivaled by something more powerful than they are (that this cycle will create AI that can topple the reapers). This implies they are merely fearful for their own survival and that is why they purge all life but they convince themselves they are protecting us.
Either way, you can submit to him and save your people or take your chances. Having 4000 EMS, not submitting to him you would lose everyone, but still eventually get to the three choices we actually got (more on this in a second). Having 5000+ and depending on how you resolved conflicts between characters and races, certain people will live or die.
After rejecting him (whether you lose everyone or not), you end up in the area where vent boy was but hes not there. It's just you and "Harbinger". He explains that a new solution is needed. The solution he tries to convince you to take is merge (to perseve his kind). But if you have high enough reputation once again, you can open the control and destroy option. Harbinger tries to talk you out of it by discussing how your races are divided and mentioning the geth incident. You convince him otherwise, and it is at this point, the control option opens next where he admits that shepard may have a perspective he never considered. Harbinger tells Shepard that if he destroys them, the relays will be destroyed as will the geth (which is true. This is the only ending where the relays are destroyed).
Now for the four endings.
If you submit to him before the three main choices, the reapers leave earth but end up wiping out every other race who haven't proved themselves worthy. Shepard dies.
If you merge, the reapers leave and like the ending we got, we see all the characters we know with green eyes as a green light brightens the sky. Shepard dies for the same reasons in the ending we got.
The control option, the reapers leave. Everyone cautiously celebrates while joker and your LI look up to the sky and wonder what exactly happened. Life goes on but its hinted that the reaper threat may return. This ending ends on a cliffhanger.
The destroy ending does destroy the relays, but its implied that with all the races on earth, they, together, will restore what they lost and will attempt to work together. if shepard lives, your LI leading your squad, will be looking for you. You are beamed back down to earth (its assumed shepard was somehow blasted into the beam? this is the only questionable part). It ends with shepard's hand coming out of the rubble and breathing. Still a cliffhanger of sorts, but you can assume they will find him/her obviously.
---
http://i46.tinypic.com/n49ick.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
mauro2222 wrote...
wicked_being wrote...
Cow Man?Ivon wrote...
Annaleah wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Is the hallucination thread still going? My fiancee was playing ME2 and EDI said there were literally pieces of Sovereign in the Normandy. Scary...
WHO friggin put pieces of Sovereign on the ship?! щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
Begins with a 'C'
and ends with 'Man'
Indeed, he is behind everything... look at those udders, conspirative udders.
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