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[XIzCarnageXIXZ]

back on the front lines any news anyone ....HOLD THE LINE.....

[Dorfgonewild81]

 Hard to keep up with this thread, so if this was already posted, sorry.  Adam Sessler of G4 talking about the ednings, dlc, same sex, etc

www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721696/mass-effect-3-the-ending-dlc-and-same-sex-relationships-sesslers-soapbox/

[Sunfury96]

 i don't know if everyone saw this but this is the best ending so far 
http://arkis.deviant...only=1#comments(maybe somebody post this already, if so i'm sorry to spam)

[spacefiddle]

What the hey? Like a lot of folks here, I assumed I'd bollocksed something up, when I get to the end and the only option seems to be "kill yourself, kill yourself, or murder all the beings you worked so hard to broker a peace with." lolwut?

Maybe Bioware never chokes up at a movie? Maybe they don't take their own created emotional connections seriously? I guess, when you work on something long enough, it gets hard to really believe it resonates with people, the way other people's work resonates with you.

Maybe they decided a 2001: A Space Odyssey cosmic far-out ending was what they just felt like doing and the hell with any fans that might have, you know, become attached to these characters and this universe over the last FIVE YEARS.

All the effort I put into the game seems wasted and pointless. Given that you'd have to really sleepwalk your way through it to totally screw up - it's a game about a hero, and 90% of the time you're going to win - it isn't just about "saving the galaxy." It's rare for a game to be about the hero screwing up and destroying everything. Saving the galaxy is practically a *given* and, let's face it, a huge honking cliche. What made this series stand out were the damn *characters." Their actors gave them life, the writers gave them humour, the players' choices in game gave them relevance (or removed it), and that's the ONLY reason we keep playing. Shooting things I can do in a thousand other games.

I wish I could feel like any of this discussion here mattered. Bioware chose to do it this way, so they either don't care about any of the above, or it honestly took them by surprise - which should be a wake-up call to get more in touch with their fans, but usually just results in PR spin and quotes of sales figures. Shame really.\\

OH, just one thing that needs to be pointed out here:

"Adam and Eve" endings?  Yeah, that would be an instant rejection from Analog or any self-respecting sci-fi publication.  They were cliched and overused by the time the Golden Age of sci was stretching its legs, and has been cited in numerous sources as a prime example of what kind of story *not* to submit as a new writer looking to get published.  I really can't believe they did that.  No validation or resolution of Shepard's choices, or RI choices, or any other major galaxy-affecting choices, wipe 'em all out.... and instead, give us an Adam and Eve ending.  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Modifié par spacefiddle, 13 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[morph4037]

This made me feel old but gave me a laugh :

[Dj14365]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

I want to replay it so badly right now but I just can't. Every time I load it up I turn it off again because of that DAMN ENDING.

yes, I feel the same way

What we are trying to do here is change that so we can play the game for what it should have been. HOLD THE LINE!

[NubXL]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Lets do some Space-Magic for the kids!

What guarantee is there that your solicitations are actually going to charity and not into your pockets?

[soske aizen]

SimonM72 wrote...

Oh yeah!, Liara's rumoured father! - how the hell was all this good stuff missed out?, i mean.... I saw you the community interacting with Bioware for years on this forum finessing what you wanted to see!, Maaan, when I'm reminded of all these things missed out we'll need either an expansion to put things right or 7 years of RPG-centred DLC to put things right and fulfill potential.

u can get liara to talk to her  dad at the cafe in the commens only b4 the udina coup tho

Modifié par soske aizen, 13 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[ArmyKnifeX]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Lets do some Space-Magic for the kids!

Erm no offense or anything at all meant but how do we have confirmation that's actually going to Child's Play?

[KRAETZNER]

dfstone wrote...

I don't see how this is a sad ending. I see it as a positive ending. This whole game from ME1-ME3 you learned that everything you saw and experienced was all put in place by someone else. The entire ME universe was built on a lie, the technology the way the civilizations grew, how they interacted, the way they traveled the universe it was all put forward.

Humanity didn't learn anything, none of the races did, they just picked up what someone else built for them to find. It was like being a rat in a maze forced to find the cheese and someone kept moving the cheese.

I found the whole story to be very depressing once you had that first conversation with Soverign and he told you about the cycle and later on discovered how the Protheans had been manipulating other species like the Humans and Asari with their beacons.

Now with Shepherd destroying the beacons, the relays and the reapers and freeing the whole galaxy from this eternal hamster wheel it was stuck on, everyone is finally free. I think its a positive ending.

Ignorance is bliss.

[ShaneP]

N7 Theo wrote...

BioWare tweeted to somebody that claimed the liked and understood the ending. They said they should treat understanding the ending like a badge of honor, and that they basically avoided the mainstream concerns.

BioWare, we all understand that the endings were poorly written/executed. I will wear this as a badge of honor, but this obviously does not avoid mainstream concerns.

Well that's a hollow statement if I ever heard one "It's not our fault for writing a crap ending, it's the players for not understanding"

... Seriously?

I understood the metaphysical ramifications of the endings pretty well (apart from the Synthesis one, if the DNA of organics and synthetics was meant to be merged, how did Joker and EDI appear unaltered after the crash of the Normandy?). It was not a lack of understanding that bummed me out, I just wanted some closure to the relationships and LI's. I had infact developed several different saves with different choices and LI's pathed out, but knowing the crappy way they all end makes me a little disinclined to continue with them at this point. I'm also disappointed that Bioware still decided not to let us see Tali's face after removing her mask on Rannoch (I know you can see a photo of her minus the mask if you're in a romance with her, but that still feels like a poor substitute IMO)

[Annaleah]

Dj14365 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

I want to replay it so badly right now but I just can't. Every time I load it up I turn it off again because of that DAMN ENDING.

yes, I feel the same way

What we are trying to do here is change that so we can play the game for what it should have been. HOLD THE LINE!

Bioware has NO idea how much of a relief it will be if we do get a better ending.... all my depression will lift off and fly away and I'll be able to get back to work and not be distracted and disoriented...

[DifferentD17]

Sunfury96 wrote...

 i don't know if everyone saw this but this is the best ending so far 
http://arkis.deviant...only=1#comments(maybe somebody post this already, if so i'm sorry to spam)

It has, but don't be sorry keeping people up to date is a good thing. Not  many people will look though 1000 pages of the forum. lol

[Nilofeliu]

KRAETZNER wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I don't see how this is a sad ending. I see it as a positive ending. This whole game from ME1-ME3 you learned that everything you saw and experienced was all put in place by someone else. The entire ME universe was built on a lie, the technology the way the civilizations grew, how they interacted, the way they traveled the universe it was all put forward.

Humanity didn't learn anything, none of the races did, they just picked up what someone else built for them to find. It was like being a rat in a maze forced to find the cheese and someone kept moving the cheese.

I found the whole story to be very depressing once you had that first conversation with Soverign and he told you about the cycle and later on discovered how the Protheans had been manipulating other species like the Humans and Asari with their beacons.

Now with Shepherd destroying the beacons, the relays and the reapers and freeing the whole galaxy from this eternal hamster wheel it was stuck on, everyone is finally free. I think its a positive ending.

Ignorance is bliss.

Amen brother...

[Theory75]

Just got back home and first things first: had to check this thread.
I guess still no official word from BW or any kind of update on the situation ?

[Ziajin]

KRAETZNER wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I don't see how this is a sad ending. I see it as a positive ending. This whole game from ME1-ME3 you learned that everything you saw and experienced was all put in place by someone else. The entire ME universe was built on a lie, the technology the way the civilizations grew, how they interacted, the way they traveled the universe it was all put forward.

Humanity didn't learn anything, none of the races did, they just picked up what someone else built for them to find. It was like being a rat in a maze forced to find the cheese and someone kept moving the cheese.

I found the whole story to be very depressing once you had that first conversation with Soverign and he told you about the cycle and later on discovered how the Protheans had been manipulating other species like the Humans and Asari with their beacons.

Now with Shepherd destroying the beacons, the relays and the reapers and freeing the whole galaxy from this eternal hamster wheel it was stuck on, everyone is finally free. I think its a positive ending.

Ignorance is bliss.

^ ^ ^ Ignorance is indeed bliss, but to the one saying that the endings are good... You sir, are in the wrong thread. Just saying. This is for the people who agree the endings were terribad and whatnot. Trying to get us to change our mind with your opinion on how the endings were good, will not hold well here.

In other news. Good afternoon everyone! Any news from the front?

Modifié par Ziajin, 13 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[MordiMoro]

Hello my friends, any news?
Thx!

[Matt_gekko88]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Lets do some Space-Magic for the kids!

Erm no offense or anything at all meant but how do we have confirmation that's actually going to Child's Play?

It's not my project, so I'm not sure. Maybe we find an answer here.

Edit: Or here.

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 13 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[Kyzee]

I think everyone should take a look at this video and reassess their outrage. I know I have.

[SkaldFish]

N7 Theo wrote...

BioWare tweeted to somebody that claimed the liked and understood the ending. They said they should treat understanding the ending like a badge of honor, and that they basically avoided the mainstream concerns.

BioWare, we all understand that the endings were poorly written/executed. I will wear this as a badge of honor, but this obviously does not avoid mainstream concerns.

If they understand the ending, I'd sure like to hear their explanation. But it would have to be free of material they insert themselves to fill in the gaps and rationalize away the inconsistencies. What I've seen elsewhere from those who try to "help" us by patiently "explaining" the ending (we's jest kinda slow an' don't rilly thank suh gud, yuh know...) amounts to building a coherent story by assembling what we get from the game into a larger framework of their own design, erasing all the inconvenient pieces that contradict their new infrastructure.

Badge of honor? Does it say something about being an official sycophant on it? The truth is that the ending can't be understood because it doesn't make any sense.

[Rosery99]

NubXL wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Lets do some Space-Magic for the kids!

What guarantee is there that your solicitations are actually going to charity and not into your pockets?

Aside from the fact some 210 people have donated, the recipt you get after paying clearly indicates your payment going into the Childs Play donation fund, not OURS, just there general donation fund. The recipt can't be faked either as it's coming directly from paypal.

Hold The Line!
We will be victorious!

[ArmyKnifeX]

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

 Hard to keep up with this thread, so if this was already posted, sorry.  Adam Sessler of G4 talking about the ednings, dlc, same sex, etc

www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721696/mass-effect-3-the-ending-dlc-and-same-sex-relationships-sesslers-soapbox/

One of the less knee-jerk critic reactions to our outporing. However, I have to wonder why so many of the "vidyagame critics" out there are pretty generally against what we're doing.

[KRAETZNER]

Ziajin wrote...

KRAETZNER wrote...

dfstone wrote...

I don't see how this is a sad ending. I see it as a positive ending. This whole game from ME1-ME3 you learned that everything you saw and experienced was all put in place by someone else. The entire ME universe was built on a lie, the technology the way the civilizations grew, how they interacted, the way they traveled the universe it was all put forward.

Humanity didn't learn anything, none of the races did, they just picked up what someone else built for them to find. It was like being a rat in a maze forced to find the cheese and someone kept moving the cheese.

I found the whole story to be very depressing once you had that first conversation with Soverign and he told you about the cycle and later on discovered how the Protheans had been manipulating other species like the Humans and Asari with their beacons.

Now with Shepherd destroying the beacons, the relays and the reapers and freeing the whole galaxy from this eternal hamster wheel it was stuck on, everyone is finally free. I think its a positive ending.

Ignorance is bliss.

You sir, are in the wrong thread. Just saying. This is for the people who agree the endings were terribad and whatnot. Trying to get us to change our mind with your opinion on how the endings were good, will not hold well here.

In other news. Good afternoon everyone! Any news from the front?

I assume you are talking to the one I was quoting?

[Ziajin]

Theory75 wrote...

Just got back home and first things first: had to check this thread.
I guess still no official word from BW or any kind of update on the situation ?

Course not. But I do believe they've referred to our little movement as a 'mainstream' opinion now

[KHReborn]

MordiMoro wrote...

Hello my friends, any news?
Thx!

Just the Twitter team ignoring me, everytime I ask about a statement. But everything else they comment.