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[Maugrim]

Man Chris really is evil... such a brief yet sweet hope.

[Nerevar-as]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Zaki1991 wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265 maybe the true ending? I dont know, but i'm sure it's much better than what we have

That ending, while more varied, STILL doesn't provide closure and completely ignores the Dark Energy foreshadowing from ME2. I don't think i'd be very happy with that ending, either.

Maybe.. just maybe... by making an ending as terrible as they did, BioWare can now justify to EA why they need more funding (and the initial sales will help) to make a proper ending.

The DE plot makes even less sense than the Singularity one. I just can´t see the point of the cycle there. And who would choose to allow the Reapers to win? After tens of mllions of years without success, I´d rather try something new. Also too close to Revelation Space.

[stucksuburbanite]

another interesting tweet

https://twitter.com/...676652794679296

[SystemUser]

Hurray!, i've modded the Mass effect 3 executable. It now crashes the game when that kid comes up(complete with stutter(as the engine tries to recover and fails) when the kid tries to speak)
Kinda made my day

[Alamandorious]

spacefiddle wrote...

Aiden_Cora wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I replayed the beginning yesterday. The vent the kid hides in is a dead end. it doesnt have a way out. The kid was never real.

I was under the impression that the vent makes a 90 degrees turn, that's why the exit is not visible, but maybe you're on to something here.

No, I think this is the right idea for the wrong reason.  The vent goes nowhere because, in the game, it goes nowhere: you can't enter it or follow it.  There's no reason to model art assets for something that will never be seen or used.

All the other arguments are far more compelling to me:  the all too obvious "you can't save me" line, but more subtle bits like no one else by the shuttles reacting to the kid, Anderson not being around when you see him, etc.  My only worry is it's just an invented device: hey wouldn't it be cool to foreshadow, etc.  - and not a fully-developed idea with a reason behind it.

The foreshadowing I got from the kid is that 'you can't save everyone'...in fact, Anderson and Shepard talk about just that...but to me, that just meant there was a high probability of squaddies/Shepard dying.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

C'mon guys, just C'MON!

Even if Shep is indocrinated, BW need to show what happens after...

So, we discover that Shep is not herself anymore, so what? What really happens?

[Trunks Bordare]

[quote]Larask wrote...

I am pretty sure this has been posted already, but it hard to review all the pages I have missed so here it goes. Another Forbes article defending us and responding to what Colin (IGN) said:

http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/[/quote]

[/quote]

Thank you for posting that link. It is a very well written article that doesn't dismiss us as raging fans. While "gaming" sites have been ripping us, Forbes has been supporting us. I'm pretty sure those guys know a bit more about running businesses and making money. 

[DifferentD17]

Lol seems like we sent the Twitter fleet in.

[KHReborn]

Alamandorious wrote...

I'm going to do a rules of conduct, really, that we should follow:

#1: Do not harass bioware staff. They are aware of us, the media is aware of us (both positive and not), and harassment only hurts what we're trying to achieve.

#2: Be civil. Even if someone doesn't agree with your view, even if -they- aren't civil to you, be civil in return. Becoming big flame-belching fans of whiny doom is counter productive, and sheds everyone in a negative light. It doesn't matter if 99% of all posts are civil, they will look at the remaining 1% and say 'see, they're all just a bunch of whiny spoiled brats'.

#3: Do not attach to posts links that will carry people to crude images, videos, or sound files of any kind...again, this makes us all look bad. Humorous links are one thing, disgusting ones are another.

Follow these 3 simple rules, and we should be alright

I cheered them up a bit:

@masseffect We (99%) just want to discuss in a civil manner ;-). We know you're just doing your job here. Ignore the few harsh ones

[spacefiddle]

soske aizen wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

AND NOW A MUCH NEEDED HAPPY MOMENT FOR ALL OF US

I am the very model of *kaboom*

that part made me cry mantears

I know.  I almost saluted.  While I normally can't stand Hollywood redepmtion (the only way a character can redeem himself is to die while doing it), it was all plausibly done, well-written, well-acted (EVEN THO YOU AIN'T THE REAL MORDIN  sob) and a fine final scene that any actor, with any character, in any medium, should be proud to have done.

[cotheer]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

AND NOW A MUCH NEEDED HAPPY MOMENT FOR ALL OF US

I am the very model of *kaboom*

I had to do that dreadfull genophage cure mission two times

[WvStolzing]

Has this been commented on?



See the bit that starts at 7:21, until Anderson calls out to Shepard.

When I first saw this, I thought it meant that reapers' mind tricks on Shepard was going to be a significant aspect of the plot. We got nothing of the sort----but maybe this 'dazing out' in the beginning relates somehow to the 'hallucination ending theory'?

Modifié par WvStolzing, 13 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[Garathe]

vigna wrote...

I keep going over and over what bugs me. People have written great essays and posts about this entire debacle. I think it mostly boils down to a few key elements for me.

*While we know about the Catalyst--the entity is only introduced in the last few moments of the story. Macguffin.

* The character of Shepard takes a 180 degree turn in every personality trait we know about him in these final moments as well. We are shown moments of despair from Shepard up to this point, but not enough IMO to see him emotionally, and willfully crumble.

* There is no questioning by Shepard of much consequence in his conversation with Blue/Catalyst/Kid. Sure he asks a few questions, but he mostly listens and makes a choice based on only one, limited perspective.

*Leading up to the Citadel, and after the Reaper blast Shepard fails to check for survivors, comrades, or anyone that can help him going into a completely unknown situation. ie. --the closed Citadel. He decides to just trek on alone? I assume having EDI, Garrus, or the Prothean as knowledgeable and skilled backup would be too much to ask?

* The 3 choices are also too limiting and defy Shepard's previously established character. While I can accept he would choose a destroy Reaper option he never fully questions the repercussions. I also understand having limited choices more closely relates to "reality"...this is Shepard, and reality is already at suspension of disbelief levels.

* The ending edits appear slapped together hastily, and show no true semblance of anything relating to closure, context, indication of time and place, or true repercussions of Shepard's actions on the Citadel. At least from what we have come to expect from Bioware from previous games.


I have more, but those are the main ones. Am I in line with others, or am I missing something else entirely?

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Modifié par Garathe, 13 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[KaiserinKai]

VerdantSF wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

The_Canadian_Dragon wrote...

I was reading through the replies here:

http://penny-arcade....the-series-mass

I had to screencap this reply. Humorour yet accurate of the confusion the endings leave us with.

Soooo acurate!

Still laughing... At last after so long.. Good job people...

This... so much THIS.  How could this get past the creative team?!  How were there not enough dissenting voices in various meetings to stop this from becoming the actual ending?

Thank you! God Kid AI's fail logic FAILS! That gave me a good laugh...

[Matt_gekko88]

Tweet Tweet

Don't get too exited, it's just a documentation.

[xPandax]

Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

xPandax wrote...

Ranorm wrote...

For what it's worth, I'm adding my voice to this. I just...I can't actually bring myself to play past those final conversations because I already know the ending(s (seeing as they are pretty much identical)).

So what...the series ends not with a bang but a whimper?

That's...just not right. Not right at all

let's hope for the best. this game deserves a much better ending then that.
i hope the rumors are true and they got a plan b already

Yeah, me too. If this is intentional, it's quite possibly brilliant. (Mirroring what's going on the whole game by making it seem like all these people/countries/etc. have to come together to fight a hopeless cause...)

If not, well... Then it's just miserable.

we can move for sure something, but my instinct tells me that there are to many facts that show that there is something wrong with the whole ending and that it just can't end up like that. all the facts that it is a dream or a clue of the reapers to get shepard on their side are keeping me hope for that. something is rising, it is coming and i hope after the release in japan we finaly get the anwsers we want!

[sumo390]

stucksuburbanite wrote...

another interesting tweet

https://twitter.com/...676652794679296

Yay multiplayer maps and missions to do before Shepard dies in a rainbow.

[zarnk567]

almost to 1,000 way to go everyone. Hold the line.

[Darkwingduck]

This thread gives me such hope I can happily say that i'm playing Mass Effect 3 (new game plus) right now and feeling o.k about it because of all of you. It's not the same I'll never get back that complete optimism but I have the hope that by the time I get through this insanity run something will have come from this forum. Either a reason to stop playing or a new found reason to play.

[vigna]

Garathe wrote...

vigna wrote...

I keep going over and over what bugs me. People have written great essays and posts about this entire debacle. I think it mostly boils down to a few key elements for me.

*While we know about the Catalyst--the entity is only introduced in the last few moments of the story. Macguffin.

* The character of Shepard takes a 180 degree turn in every personality trait we know about him in these final moments as well. We are shown moments of despair from Shepard up to this point, but not enough IMO to see him emotionally, and willfully crumble.

* There is no questioning by Shepard of much consequence in his conversation with Blue/Catalyst/Kid. Sure he asks a few questions, but he mostly listens and makes a choice based on only one, limited perspective.

*Leading up to the Citadel, and after the Reaper blast Shepard fails to check for survivors, comrades, or anyone that can help him going into a completely unknown situation. ie. --the closed Citadel. He decides to just trek on alone? I assume having EDI, Garrus, or the Prothean as knowledgeable and skilled backup would be too much to ask?

* The 3 choices are also too limiting and defy Shepard's previously established character. While I can accept he would choose a destroy Reaper option he never fully questions the repercussions. I also understand having limited choices more closely relates to "reality"...this is Shepard, and reality is already at suspension of disbelief levels.

* The ending edits appear slapped together hastily, and show no true semblance of anything relating to closure, context, indication of time and place, or true repercussions of Shepard's actions on the Citadel. At least from what we have come to expect from Bioware from previous games.


I have more, but those are the main ones. Am I in line with others, or am I missing something else entirely?

Come join us on Facebook if you haven't already!

www.facebook.com/DemandABetterEndingToMassEffect3

I won't do facebook even for a Bioware demonstration..... I'm happy hanging here.

[Darth_Acheron47]

xPandax wrote...

Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

xPandax wrote...

Ranorm wrote...

For what it's worth, I'm adding my voice to this. I just...I can't actually bring myself to play past those final conversations because I already know the ending(s (seeing as they are pretty much identical)).

So what...the series ends not with a bang but a whimper?

That's...just not right. Not right at all

let's hope for the best. this game deserves a much better ending then that.
i hope the rumors are true and they got a plan b already

Yeah, me too. If this is intentional, it's quite possibly brilliant. (Mirroring what's going on the whole game by making it seem like all these people/countries/etc. have to come together to fight a hopeless cause...)

If not, well... Then it's just miserable.

we can move for sure something, but my instinct tells me that there are to many facts that show that there is something wrong with the whole ending and that it just can't end up like that. all the facts that it is a dream or a clue of the reapers to get shepard on their side are keeping me hope for that. something is rising, it is coming and i hope after the release in japan we finaly get the anwsers we want!

Amen. The pessimist in me doesn't want to believe it, but even after three days, for some reason I still have hope. Just crossing my fingers that it isn't in vain...

[Benirus]

soske aizen wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

spacefiddle wrote...

AND NOW A MUCH NEEDED HAPPY MOMENT FOR ALL OF US

I am the very model of *kaboom*

that part made me cry mantears

Let's do this for Mordin, Thane and Legion aswell...

Hold the Line!

[Computim]

thedistortedchild wrote...

vboy23 wrote...

quinitii @masseffect Have you seen ME3 fans raising money for Child's Play here http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play ? Retweeting would really help! #RetakeME3 #ME3

masseffect @quinitii We're very impressed with the community's charity. Child's Play is a wonderful cause.

https://encrypted-tb...LzmF6tkQ73DBLEx
They really aren't getting it are they.

I am the master of my destiny.  I have donated to child's play because, regardless of the outcome here, it's an amazing group that does some really awesome things.  I always donate to them with the humble bundles as well.

Even if, 3 months from now, Bioware still hasn't conceded that they rushed the ending and left out a bunch of stuff (which I'm sure is what happened here) I'll still feel like I at least came out ahead putting time and effort into this, if only for the reason that I helped contribute to a discussion that caused people to give of themselves to a charity   It makes me really proud of this group, I'm amazed, when I donated last night there were only a few hundred dollars, last I saw it was over $5000.

Bioware, the media, anyone who says we're acting "Entitled" should realize a single thread has produced 1/4 of the yearly income of some.  We're not entitled.  In the business world, if I pay for a software product I expect the entire product, and if the ending of said product isn't finished then I get on the phone and I put some fire under the company I'm purchasing from to get me what I paid for and what was advertised.  That's not entitlement, it's customer service.

[xAmilli0n]

Some hope?

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/179680647869243392

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 13 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Merawen]

These endings is not what the Mass Effect Series deserves.
sad sad sad