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[Kakaw]

lightsnow13 wrote...

darkblade wrote...

Remember how pistols where in ME1?

Yea, they shoulda stayed like that.

They pretty much are.

Pistols in Me1 = OP

Pistols in Me3 = OP

that lazer gun dlc from ME2 was a ma zing.

[AreleX]

hmwp/master marksman all over again

[Jdepp]

As someone who mains an Asari Adept who has only a pistol to shoot with, I say bully to this topic.

Every other gun has an advantage over the sidearm; be it from power-per-shot like the shotgun and sniper, or the rapid-fire and high capacity for guns like rifles and SMGs. the pistol is, at best, smack average when it comes to balance. The only thing it has going for it is the weight, which allows those who rely on the CD bonus to tote -only the pistol-.

I can't tell you how many times I've died from an enemy getting close, eating the whole pistol clip, then refusing to die from a frantic Throw or Warp. Or how many times I've debated swapping it out for a light SMG. But that's half the stratagem in building your character kit. Even equipped with just a pistol, a sheet majority of my kills are Biotic.

[UK Wildcat]

Gotta see all of the other guns to debate whether nerfing is justified. The only thing you can do is draw comparisons in the demo, not ask for retail balancing based on the demo.

[Ghost-621]

Haseeo wrote...

you nerf one gun then someone complains about nerfing another and it just goes on and on and on.

Then you have Battlefield 3. Where everything is nerfed except the FAMAS.

[Reaver102]

This post is to premature, you're basing your opinions off a demo that has half the unlocks of the real game. For example the smg only has heatsink modifiers in the demo, we don't have any of the damage boosting or other mods which could help balance them out. Pistols are very nice and I always take one in my kit but they are not the end all be all weapons this forum makes them out to be.

[HYENA-21]

Phalanx and Widow are always in my equipment

[Natureguy85]

I think there is something wrong with my soldier carrying a carnifex instead of a mattock. But the pistol is just better.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

They don't need to nerf pistols.  They need to make the shotguns more powerful.  For example, a Claymore with a high caliber barrel should be able to one-shot something.

[Dasher1010]

I'd just buff ARs since the Tempest is a better gun than the Avenger. Pistols don't really need a nerf since they're meant to be good all around with no real weaknesses.

[Label07]

N7 Spectre525 wrote...

Pistols are fine as they are. What is this fascination with nerfing everything in games anymore? P

I agree with OP.  My Phalanx X does loads more damage (close or far) than my Katana X when hitting an enemy point blank, in regards to time frame of shots fired and damage done.

Buff the shotguns, as of now they feel REALLY weak compared to other options the player has.

[Elecbender]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

They don't need to nerf pistols.  They need to make the shotguns more powerful.  For example, a Claymore with a high caliber barrel should be able to one-shot something.

It does except an Atlas.  In the right circumstance of course.

Modifié par Elecbender, 04 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[goofyomnivore]

I don't see the problem with a gold pistol being better than a regular other gun. The Claymore and Rev need a slight buff (maybe make them lighter?).

The Phalanx isn't better than a shotgun up close unless your a Vanguard but that class doesn't really doesn't need a shotgun anymore. Shotgun proc the ammo powers(cryo) so much better than the pistols in cqc. The Phalanx isn't better than the Mattock either at least on PC where the ROF of it is skewed due to mouse clicking. The Mantis sucks. Phalanx owns it.

Modifié par strive, 04 mars 2012 - 06:56 .

[Butthead11]

It's easy to tell who in here has unlocked the carnifax and who hasn't

I would like pistols to be nerfed, but if they aren't i still own with the vindicator.

[darkblade]

Cosmo G. Spacely wrote...

Mango370 wrote...

This might sound stupid, but what does nerf mean? does it mean something like, make them weaker?

COD term that means we like to complain.

but seriously, you got it right,

nerf = make weaker

buff = strengthen

Why does everyone think CoD = Bad bad bulls***? its ridiciulous, it more annoying then all the nerf threads on this forum that people complain about on this site....this place is pants on head backwards.

[TehJumpingJawa]

The term nerf comes from the "Nerf" brand (in particular their air powered guns that shoot foam bullets).
It's got nothing to do with COD.

[Poison_Berrie]

Dasher1010 wrote...

I'd just buff ARs since the Tempest is a better gun than the Avenger. Pistols don't really need a nerf since they're meant to be good all around with no real weaknesses.

I've run with a Tempest, but with the recoil that thing is all over the place. The Avenger with a scope has better spread than the Mattock and even without it has a lot less recoil than the Tempest.

[Troller79]

why the **** do you ppl wanna nerf the weapons in a non pvp game

[TexasToast712]

Why would somebody bump this stupid thread?

(Yea, yea, I know, I'm bumping it by telling people not to bump it.)

[TehJumpingJawa]

[quote]Father Alvito wrote...

[quote]Cloaking_Thane wrote...


For Mooks, who cares?[/quote]

Specifically, anything shielded (other than an Atlas) that has been hit with a maxed Energy Drain can immediately be dropped with a Mantis X headshot assuming you built properly.  There is a tangible difference with Atlas kills, but if the Atlas causes a legitimate, immediate problem it should eat a missile anyway.[/quote][/quote]

Mantis X: Energy Drain + headshot = dead
Widow X: Energy Drain + shot = dead

That in my book makes the Widow far superior, and certainly worth the weight hit for a class like the infiltrator.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Troller79 wrote...

why the **** do you ppl wanna nerf the weapons in a non pvp game

You bring up a good point, now that I think about it.

[Legato 0021]

Guys!
Guys!
Guys.....

I have an idea.
Why don't we just nerf....... EVERYTHING!
That EVERYONE! Complains about. (:
So we can all have the same **** co-op experience.

Seriously guys, everything is quite fine how it is now. Everyone uses weapons pretty diveresly, so is there really ANY reason you should be crying about how strong a weapon is? It is within reason and they honestly do not need to be toned down.

And besides.... it is a co-op game, having someone run around with a pistol really doesn't affect your experience since money and experience is shared anyway.

[Sabbatine]

Sr.Prize wrote...

Whether you nerf the damage or make them heavier; the pistols need to have some kind of disadvantage. As of right now, they're the perfect weapon.

Only someone with a total lack of imagination could come to this conclusion.  I only use pistols on my adept, every other class I play seems to benefit more from another weapon type.

[TehJumpingJawa]

Troller79 wrote...

why the **** do you ppl wanna nerf the weapons in a non pvp game

For the same reason the game's MP has 7 races, 6 classes, dozens of skills, dozens of weapons, dozens of mods, atleast 6 maps, 3 enemy races, 4 difficulty levels, random spawns & random objectives.

Diversity.

If a given weapon is in every way inferior to another weapon, it either shouldn't be in the game (as it's pointless) or it needs rebalancing (as it diminishes gameplay diversity).
Equally, if any given weapon is superior to most other weapons in almost every way, it too needs rebalancing (as it diminishes gameplay diversity).

[D.Kain]

Legato 0021 wrote...

Guys!
Guys!
Guys.....

I have an idea.
Why don't we just nerf....... EVERYTHING!
That EVERYONE! Complains about. (:
So we can all have the same **** co-op experience.

Seriously guys, everything is quite fine how it is now. Everyone uses weapons pretty diveresly, so is there really ANY reason you should be crying about how strong a weapon is? It is within reason and they honestly do not need to be toned down.

And besides.... it is a co-op game, having someone run around with a pistol really doesn't affect your experience since money and experience is shared anyway.

No, everything is not fine. Other weapons suck compared to pistols. What we need to do is not nurf stuff, but buff up the stuff that sucks to the level of cool stuff.