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[Alchemist4]

DARKWUN wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

It only took the game to be released and paid for until Bioware acknowledged the issue.....can't even tell Bioware and EA apart anymore. They've finally merged into one with the same corporate value at their core.....$

EA: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!"

So that's where they got that creative concept from and then we have indoctrination from the Reapers as well as suggestion from the Rachni and the Thorian. I see a pattern.

Modifié par Alchemist4, 07 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[EnvyXx]

kj0600 wrote...

One of the most appealing things about this series was the fact you could carry your character through the game. I pop in my special edition today, wait for over an hour installing DLC and bonus content, and suddenly I get this error message. I was devastated, sure I could try to remake her but it would never be the same. I'm appalled and disappointed that this problem is even happening. I hope a patch comes out soon to fix something that should have never been broken.

[Nizrael]

Njits1992 wrote...

OF COURSE IT IS, how would you feel like Luke Skywalker having a different nose missing scar and just overall different facial structure in the Empire Strikes Back, just because? That would be ****ing weird, and I think it applies to this game as well. The hole point is to go through these games with YOUR SHEPARD. I don't understand how people can think that doesn't include a consistent ****ing face. I'm just face palming saying this

Heh.  I see what you did there.  Mark Hamill had a serious car accident and underwent facial reconstructive surgery between the filming of "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back," which is why they wrote in the scene at the beginning where Luke gets mauled by a wampa on Hoth and is forced to convalesce in a bacta tank, to explain why his face looks different.  The same dynamic applied well enough for ME2, after Normandy 1 gets destroyed by the Collectors and Commander Shepard gets spaced; sure, there were [very] subtle differences between ME1 faces and ME2 faces, but it managed to recreate them well enough that it could be explained in context as the result of Project Lazarus.  In the case of my femShep, she looked just a tiny bit more perfect in ME2, which is what one might expect as the result of extensive and expensive reconstructive surgery by the galaxy's best surgeons.  But not being able to import my face into ME3 at all, that is akin to casting Kurt Russel to replace Harrison Ford as Han Solo in "Return of the Jedi;" sure, he could play the part of a heroic rogue, but it would have irretrievably broken the film.

[Nizrael]

Alchemist4 wrote...

DARKWUN wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

It only took the game to be released and paid for until Bioware acknowledged the issue.....can't even tell Bioware and EA apart anymore. They've finally merged into one with the same corporate value at their core.....$

EA: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!"

So that's where they got that creative concept from and then we have indoctrination from the Reapers as well as suggestion from the Rachni and the Thorian. I see a pattern.

For some reason, reading this post made me hear Blue Öyster cult's "Don't Fear The Reaper" in my head. 

[FutureBoy81]

Nizrael wrote...

Njits1992 wrote...

OF COURSE IT IS, how would you feel like Luke Skywalker having a different nose missing scar and just overall different facial structure in the Empire Strikes Back, just because? That would be ****ing weird, and I think it applies to this game as well. The hole point is to go through these games with YOUR SHEPARD. I don't understand how people can think that doesn't include a consistent ****ing face. I'm just face palming saying this

Heh.  I see what you did there.  Mark Hamill had a serious car accident and underwent facial reconstructive surgery between the filming of "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back," which is why they wrote in the scene at the beginning where Luke gets mauled by a wampa on Hoth and is forced to convalesce in a bacta tank, to explain why his face looks different.  The same dynamic applied well enough for ME2, after Normandy 1 gets destroyed by the Collectors and Commander Shepard gets spaced; sure, there were [very] subtle differences between ME1 faces and ME2 faces, but it managed to recreate them well enough that it could be explained in context as the result of Project Lazarus.  In the case of my femShep, she looked just a tiny bit more perfect in ME2, which is what one might expect as the result of extensive and expensive reconstructive surgery by the galaxy's best surgeons.  But not being able to import my face into ME3 at all, that is akin to casting Kurt Russel to replace Harrison Ford as Han Solo in "Return of the Jedi;" sure, he could play the part of a heroic rogue, but it would have irretrievably broken the film.

Kool analogy..

[feliciano2040]

I must say, this kind of stuff should inspire gamers to form their own "unions".

Because it sure doesn't seem like developers take their customers seriously these days.

[SIRdavidTHEgr8]

I don’t have anything different to say then I have been reading here, just throwing my 2 cents in. I do want to echo the “How Could This Have Happened?” When I first heard about the Mass-Effect series one of the selling points was “you will have your same Character through all 3 Games…”. This is not much of a “Launch Day” for me… I will wait a few days to see what happens, but I don’t expect much. Why should I expect anything from this company, why take care of your long time loyal customer? After all Profit is not a dirty word, and we already had the games pre-ordered. Go ahead and release it on time, that’s what’s important. Hell it is the last one in the series, they don’t care if we don’t buy the next one… there won’t be one.

[agn25]

It's funny because I remember some tweets from devs while they were still testing and debugging that were posted in the "Casey Hudson says" forum topic. They were telling each other and no doubt us how they were bug free and how well the game was running. I guess none of them gave a thought to trying to import a Shepard they started in ME1 from ME2 into the ****ing game they were testing.

And anyone who is saying this isn't a big deal has got to be trolling.

[Dan Dark]

Ya know... I'm amused how many people have made a comparison to replacing actors... and especially to replacing Harrison Ford for someone else in Return of the Jedi, because that is the EXACT same comparison I was going to use! XD Although, I was going to point out how much it messes with the sense of immersion... If you're expecting to see Harrison Ford, suddenly getting, say, Nathan Fillion or Clint Eastwood, and being told they're the same character, would be a bit of a shock. Those two are awesome~, mind you, but they're not Harrison Ford. Further... imagine they only replaced the visuals, not the audio? How jarring would it be to be seeing Clint Eastwood, but hearing Harrison Ford?

More on topic, though... Does anyone else have anything to contribute about the [minor spoiler!] Shepard VI? I've heard that supposedly it gets your old face without any problems - a few people have commented on this, but I would love if anyone else willing to play up to that point could relate their experiences. Because if that is indeed true, that's HUGE, as it means the faces -can- work in the game, and that the problem is just with the import and character creation processes. That would help provide us, the fans, with proof that it's possible, and it would help the programmers narrow down where they need to look to resolve this.

[THE LORD HERESY]

wtmh wrote...

Same issue. This is a story, not a run and gun FPS.

I cannot play this game without the Shepard I've known and loved for 5 years.

Not that EA/BioWare cares, they've been paid.

Q4T.

I want to play with MY Shepard. I'm on the original console it was created on, using the original HD and the original discs (not that it matters but still.)

One of the FIRST things you guys should have done is TESTED the damn thing to make sure files were compatible. For example, in my line of work, if someone sends me a session in Pro Tools, I CHECK to see if it has aif files, wav files, what sample rate it was recorded in, etc. I make sure everything lines up how it should. If I'm using an OLDER/EARLIER version of Pro Tools but want to make the session so it is compatible with LATER/NEWER versions, I make sure I select "save copy in." If I'm working in Pro Tools on a PC and I know the session is going to hit a Mac (or vice versa) I make sure ENFORCE PC/MAC Compatibility is checked.

Fix the damn game.

[Nizrael]

Cinnamon Lightning wrote...

Bioware: I own 3 Mass Effect games, 2 of which are Collector's Editions. All 4 books, 3 lithographs (won with painstaking effort in the auction) and even a couple t-shirts. Nerdy as it sounds, I'm seriously committed to this series. I know I'm not the only one. This oversight/glitch/whatever makes us feel like you aren't committed to us in the same way. Just let us know what the deal is. Tell us how you're dealing with the problem. And if you aren't, tell us why we should continue supporting you with the same zealousness?

I feel terrible saying that, as I've defended your company time and time again. This feels like such a betrayal though. Just give us a real response, please.

While my level of investment in the series is not *quite* as high as yours, it's still pretty high; I had originally bought ME1 & 2 for the Xbox 360, as well as all the DLC BioWare would sell me (I bought them all new, not used), and I played them for hundreds of hours.  I then sold my Xbox 360, so I bought ME1 & 2 (DDE) again for PC, and spent literally a couple dozens of hours in the ME1 character creator alone recreating my Xbox Shepards as close to perfectly as I could get them just so I could play through their story (THEIR story, not just any old Shepard's story!) again on my PC, which has once again become my primary gaming platform.  Once I got them just right, I played them again for hundreds of hours more of my life.

I've been playing BioWare's games since Baldur's Gate, and generally speaking I always enjoy them immensely; KOTOR is still my favorite game of all time, and ME1 & 2 are a very close second and third.  But I am angry enough about not being able to import my Shepards' faces (and the hundreds of hours of my life I've spent forming an emotional attachment to their story development) that they're going to have to actually earn my money now.  I won't just automatically give it to them in the future.

[sportjames23]

Well, I said screw it and went ahead and tried to manually recreate my Shep and...dammit, he looks pretty damn good. Just about exact. Matter of fact, with the exception of the nose--which I couldn't quite get to match the original--he might look even better than before.

Gonna finish up ME3 with my new old Shep now.

Still, it shouldn't have come to that.

Modifié par sportjames23, 07 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[Yeti1069]

Honestly very unhappy about the import problem.
I tried recreating my Shepard's face from scratch, and got pretty close on the creation screen, but as soon as I saw him talking, I noticed that a few things seemed off by a little bit, and I haven't played ME2 since last spring, so it's not even as though I'm going from one directly to the next.

Also wasn't happy to see that some of my decisions in the previous games got ignored and we've been railroaded (Udina, for one). They couldn't have at least given us some bridge to carry us over to the version fo events they want us to have going forward?

Feels sloppy and really shakes the attachment I had to the game.

[HBC Dresden]

I still cannot understand how this happened. This glitch should not exist. And I do not appreciate BioWare claiming only "some" people are being affected by this.

[Foxhound2020]

agn25 wrote...

It's funny because I remember some tweets from devs while they were still testing and debugging that were posted in the "Casey Hudson says" forum topic. They were telling each other and no doubt us how they were bug free and how well the game was running. I guess none of them gave a thought to trying to import a Shepard they started in ME1 from ME2 into the ****ing game they were testing.

And anyone who is saying this isn't a big deal has got to be trolling.

I only have 2 guesses why anyone would ever say such a thing:

A) They never really liked their shepard. I have to admit I was in this catagory for awhile and contemplated changing the face when ME2 came out. However, once you get that perfect face or look, you grow to love it. It is impossible to ever let it go at that point. Period.

They only played Mass Effect 2. It is fairly easy to feel somewhat detatched from your shepard if you have only been playing for about a year. Its also fairy easy to be complacent and say you don't care about something like this as a non-issue, but for the rest, they have been playing since 2008-2007. They grew up with their shepard in 4 or 5 years and shepard grew with them. It's likely they had the same shep all the way through college or high school. It feels entirely impossible and distracting to play another shepard after investing that much time.

Either way, I don't think it's fair for anyone to comment on it if they truly believe it's not an issue or just a feature. It's more than just a feature at this point.

[Kastigar]

Well they did have that info graphic that said like...20% of people went with default. So I guess the 80ish percent of us with custom Shepards could be defined as "some".

[Alchemist4]

Kastigar wrote...

Well they did have that info graphic that said like...20% of people went with default. So I guess the 80ish percent of us with custom Shepards could be defined as "some".

lol

[HBC Dresden]

I was so hyped over this game (more than any other game). And now I cannot even start it because I cannot use my Shepard, the main selling point for the entire trilogy for me.

I don't even want an apology--though BioWare has not given one yet--I just want it to be fixed and fast.

So disappointing...

[ZJR12911]

HBC Dresden wrote...

I was so hyped over this game (more than any other game). And now I cannot even start it because I cannot use my Shepard, the main selling point for the entire trilogy for me.

I don't even want an apology--though BioWare has not given one yet--I just want it to be fixed and fast.

So disappointing...

agreed me3 is literally just sitting in my disc tray as i wait instead of play:'(

[Marik88]

I just wanna play the game with my Shepard ;(

[Yeti1069]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

agn25 wrote...

It's funny because I remember some tweets from devs while they were still testing and debugging that were posted in the "Casey Hudson says" forum topic. They were telling each other and no doubt us how they were bug free and how well the game was running. I guess none of them gave a thought to trying to import a Shepard they started in ME1 from ME2 into the ****ing game they were testing.

And anyone who is saying this isn't a big deal has got to be trolling.

I only have 2 guesses why anyone would ever say such a thing:

A) They never really liked their shepard. I have to admit I was in this catagory for awhile and contemplated changing the face when ME2 came out. However, once you get that perfect face or look, you grow to love it. It is impossible to ever let it go at that point. Period.

They only played Mass Effect 2. It is fairly easy to feel somewhat detatched from your shepard if you have only been playing for about a year. Its also fairy easy to be complacent and say you don't care about something like this as a non-issue, but for the rest, they have been playing since 2008-2007. They grew up with their shepard in 4 or 5 years and shepard grew with them. It's likely they had the same shep all the way through college or high school. It feels entirely impossible and distracting to play another shepard after investing that much time.

Either way, I don't think it's fair for anyone to comment on it if they truly believe it's not an issue or just a feature. It's more than just a feature at this point.

Exactly!

I watched the Javik video from the DLC up on youtube, and it feels incredibly weird hearing Shephard's voice coming out of that face. No way to play the game with a completely different person pretending to be the guy you've been watching run around the galaxy for 100+ hours.

[ZJR12911]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

agn25 wrote...

It's funny because I remember some tweets from devs while they were still testing and debugging that were posted in the "Casey Hudson says" forum topic. They were telling each other and no doubt us how they were bug free and how well the game was running. I guess none of them gave a thought to trying to import a Shepard they started in ME1 from ME2 into the ****ing game they were testing.

And anyone who is saying this isn't a big deal has got to be trolling.

I only have 2 guesses why anyone would ever say such a thing:

A) They never really liked their shepard. I have to admit I was in this catagory for awhile and contemplated changing the face when ME2 came out. However, once you get that perfect face or look, you grow to love it. It is impossible to ever let it go at that point. Period.

They only played Mass Effect 2. It is fairly easy to feel somewhat detatched from your shepard if you have only been playing for about a year. Its also fairy easy to be complacent and say you don't care about something like this as a non-issue, but for the rest, they have been playing since 2008-2007. They grew up with their shepard in 4 or 5 years and shepard grew with them. It's likely they had the same shep all the way through college or high school. It feels entirely impossible and distracting to play another shepard after investing that much time.

Either way, I don't think it's fair for anyone to comment on it if they truly believe it's not an issue or just a feature. It's more than just a feature at this point.

preach brotha

[DARKWUN]

Nizrael wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

DARKWUN wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

It only took the game to be released and paid for until Bioware acknowledged the issue.....can't even tell Bioware and EA apart anymore. They've finally merged into one with the same corporate value at their core.....$

EA: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!"

So that's where they got that creative concept from and then we have indoctrination from the Reapers as well as suggestion from the Rachni and the Thorian. I see a pattern.

For some reason, reading this post made me hear Blue Öyster cult's "Don't Fear The Reaper" in my head. 

If we scrambled a video director together, or at least someone good with video editing software and Mass Effect/EA games footage, we could make an allegory for the EA takeover and the the fall of Bioware to show our dismay  trollololololol

[feliciano2040]

Kastigar wrote...

Well they did have that info graphic that said like...20% of people went with default. So I guess the 80ish percent of us with custom Shepards could be defined as "some".

Really don't want to sound mean.

But the word "some" DID sound insulting, as if only a few people thought of using customized faces for Shepard.

[ZJR12911]

DARKWUN wrote...

Nizrael wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

DARKWUN wrote...

Alchemist4 wrote...

It only took the game to be released and paid for until Bioware acknowledged the issue.....can't even tell Bioware and EA apart anymore. They've finally merged into one with the same corporate value at their core.....$

EA: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!"

So that's where they got that creative concept from and then we have indoctrination from the Reapers as well as suggestion from the Rachni and the Thorian. I see a pattern.

For some reason, reading this post made me hear Blue Öyster cult's "Don't Fear The Reaper" in my head. 

If we scrambled a video director together, or at least someone good with video editing software and Mass Effect/EA games footage, we could make an allegory for the EA takeover and the the fall of Bioware to show our dismay  trollololololol

find it funny how not too long ago if you said ea was going to mess up me3 people would act like you were an idiot, ha whos the idiot now for downplaying eas rape of bioware