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You can't import a face created in Mass Effect 1 into 3! Bioware has responded! (See OP)


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eye basher wrote...

Well i made a far better face for my shepard on the demo so i'll be using that one.


Im happy for you, but that has nothing to do with the topic :P

Still no real answer? I guess well see when it comes out. I can live with a different hairstyle, i just want the same face. (aslong as hes not bold)

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The PLC wrote...

BigTuna82 wrote...

Are you
sure they aren't ignoring the messengers? (You guys throwing around
language like "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" and this is gamebreaking
because....it totally breaks the game)

The outrage thing is an Udina quote. People use that all the time on here. 

Are you sure someone you want to answer you will get the quote?  (I didn't and I've played through both games a few times)  Seems like a needless gamble.  Same with internet-speak like "y u no help us".  Could people with the answers glance at tweets or posts like that and say, "This person does not really care to or have the capability to have an adult discussion.  Moving on.".

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BigTuna82 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

BigTuna82 wrote...

Are you
sure they aren't ignoring the messengers? (You guys throwing around
language like "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" and this is gamebreaking
because....it totally breaks the game)

The outrage thing is an Udina quote. People use that all the time on here. 

Are you sure someone you want to answer you will get the quote?  (I didn't and I've played through both games a few times)  Seems like a needless gamble.  Same with internet-speak like "y u no help us".  Could people with the answers glance at tweets or posts like that and say, "This person does not really care to or have the capability to have an adult discussion.  Moving on.".


Or it could be used as an excuse not to answer. But then its a quote from there own game, or have they forgotten the game that started the trilogy? :P Also its from one of the most defining parts of the whole series, when sheps gets spectre status and the council wont send a fleet, sureley you remember? it was awesome :D

Modifié par MartinDN, 01 mars 2012 - 07:38 .


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Plz stop derailing the thread. OP:s choice of words are irrelevant. The issue is what needs clarification.

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SyyRaaaN wrote...

Plz stop derailing the thread. OP:s choice of words are irrelevant. The issue is what needs clarification.

I changed the OP, so now it won't be my silly wordings that makes the devs stay away.

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I have successfully twittered.

@masseffect If my Mass Effect 2 character has a Mass Effect 1 face that was imported and has no facecode, will it import into Mass Effect 3?

@axelofthekey If you are importing an ME2 character, that character's face will import.

@masseffect Sounds good. There's a forum thread filled with lots of worry about this. I'll be happy to go let them know that it works. :)


Sounds like good news to me.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Image IPB
ME1

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ME2

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ME3


This femshep does not have a face code in ME2.  I imported her into the demo using http://masseffecttoo...k.org/index.php.  It works w/ PC and X-Box, though X-Box will require extra steps. This is a work-around, not a solution, but it will give you a face code to use in ME3.

How to use it: http://social.biowar...47811/3#9249327

Note: Both femshep and maleShep will require tweaking.  You'll have to redo the hair, hair color, eye color, skin complextion and (if femshep) makeup. Everything else imports perfectly. 

edit: Looks like the situation has been resolved by axelofthekey.

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AxeloftheKey wrote...

I have successfully twittered.

@masseffect If my Mass Effect 2 character has a Mass Effect 1 face that was imported and has no facecode, will it import into Mass Effect 3?

@axelofthekey If you are importing an ME2 character, that character's face will import.

@masseffect Sounds good. There's a forum thread filled with lots of worry about this. I'll be happy to go let them know that it works. :)


Sounds like good news to me.


still vague. purposefully vague. i dont like that. but it COULD be good news, and IDO like THAT ;)

Edit: and JamieCOTC I like your shep!

Modifié par S Seraff, 01 mars 2012 - 07:55 .


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AxeloftheKey wrote...

I have successfully twittered.

@masseffect If my Mass Effect 2 character has a Mass Effect 1 face that was imported and has no facecode, will it import into Mass Effect 3?

@axelofthekey If you are importing an ME2 character, that character's face will import.

@masseffect Sounds good. There's a forum thread filled with lots of worry about this. I'll be happy to go let them know that it works. :)


Sounds like good news to me.


They didn't answer the question at all...

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Well, since importing a ME2 character is the only way of importing...That has to be a confirmation. Right?

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Ecmoose wrote...

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@joystiq93 You can import your original Shep but the graphics have obvs changed a little

Perhaps the developers have known from the start that importing is buggy?


Also, I tried this :


Best way to figure out is to start a New Game + with the shep you're trying to recreate. It's annoying cause you have to sit through the intro, but when you get to the CC you'll have three options

Default
Imported Face and
Custom

So you can keep switching from Import to Custom to check your progress and see how close you're getting to the original face.



And I regret to say my facecode did not even come close to looking like my guy in the demo of 3.   Then again, I think it was mentioned that the demo is missing a ton of options.



Yeah, it's not a perfect solution. Most of my male sheps have come through okay when I plug their faces codes into the Demo after doing, but whatever they did with FemShep models just does not translate well. Most of my fem sheps have required heavy recreation in the Demo CC.

However if A) Import works fine, then it won't matter because...well because import works fine and your original face will be preserved
B) If it doesn't work fine, I'm hoping the additional options in the live game will make it easier to recreate my sheps.

For now I've got a file on my comp with all the face codes I need. Hopefully I won't need it.


It is perfect workaround for ME2 (if we exclude colour options). Structurally you can create exact match.

Hmmm... I don't see why ME1 faces wouldn't import correctly in ME3. That's pretty serious issue and I don't see how it would be possible that they haven't tested that. From technical point of view I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work either. After all the face morph date is same for all faces. ME3 importer works with raw data (as far as I know) so the face code is irrelevant.

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Its not really vague...think about it, if you import a me1 save into 2, upon completion that is technically an me2 save.

So if its an me2 save, regardless of face code/or if its from me1, technically it should import in me3. Lets hope its true.

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MartinDN wrote...

Its not really vague...think about it, if you import a me1 save into 2, upon completion that is technically an me2 save.

So if its an me2 save, regardless of face code/or if its from me1, technically it should import in me3. Lets hope its true.

We're still not communicating that what they have told us IS NOT TRUE for people who already have the game.

They can say yes all they want if they aren';t confronted with contrary information.

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Tup3xi wrote...
ME3 importer works with raw data (as far as I know) so the face code is irrelevant.


Can you please explain what you mean by raw data?

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Ecmoose wrote...

MartinDN wrote...

Its not really vague...think about it, if you import a me1 save into 2, upon completion that is technically an me2 save.

So if its an me2 save, regardless of face code/or if its from me1, technically it should import in me3. Lets hope its true.

We're still not communicating that what they have told us IS NOT TRUE for people who already have the game.

They can say yes all they want if they aren';t confronted with contrary information.


The information from the space edition is still vague though right? Like its not clear if he was importing an me1 save or a save imported into me2 to me3? 

If the guys updated that answer and its still the same my apologies, havent followed this import business for a few days.

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I just PMed Chris Priestly about this, let's hope he can shed some light or something =)

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Ecmoose wrote...

MartinDN wrote...

Its not really vague...think about it, if you import a me1 save into 2, upon completion that is technically an me2 save.

So if its an me2 save, regardless of face code/or if its from me1, technically it should import in me3. Lets hope its true.

We're still not communicating that what they have told us IS NOT TRUE for people who already have the game.

They can say yes all they want if they aren';t confronted with contrary information.


They're saying it's possible to import an ME2 face, which means they built and tested ME3 for that. If they had encountered a bug that keeps everyone from importing the face, they'd have to tell us that, since we'll find out in a few days anyway.

The next step is to ask the people complaining about it if they talked to tech support and what tech support told them, because it's possible some people are running into a bug. The game hasn't been mass-released yet, so don't expect anyone on the Bioware side to be aware that there's a bug that affects more than a minority of folks. 

Remember the words from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - don't panic.

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The problem with communicating this issue to Bioware is that you're all tweeting the same question with different wording. And the worst part is that it's the wrong question to begin with.

ME2 saves with unmodified ME1 imported faces ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FACE CODES FULL STOP. If your ME2 face - THAT YOU IMPORTED FROM ME1 AND DID NOT MODIFY - has a face code, your character is bugged the **** out. Understand?

Other than that, the whole import function works completely damn fine.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE THAT WAS IMPORTED FROM ME1 WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
NO, YOU CANNOT IMPORT ME1 SAVES DIRECTLY TO ME3.

If however, you are one of the few who this ME2 face code bug has affected, you're going to have a problem. OKAY?

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Almostfaceman wrote...

Ecmoose wrote...

MartinDN wrote...

Its not really vague...think about it, if you import a me1 save into 2, upon completion that is technically an me2 save.

So if its an me2 save, regardless of face code/or if its from me1, technically it should import in me3. Lets hope its true.

We're still not communicating that what they have told us IS NOT TRUE for people who already have the game.

They can say yes all they want if they aren';t confronted with contrary information.


They're saying it's possible to import an ME2 face, which means they built and tested ME3 for that. If they had encountered a bug that keeps everyone from importing the face, they'd have to tell us that, since we'll find out in a few days anyway.

The next step is to ask the people complaining about it if they talked to tech support and what tech support told them, because it's possible some people are running into a bug. The game hasn't been mass-released yet, so don't expect anyone on the Bioware side to be aware that there's a bug that affects more than a minority of folks. 

Remember the words from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - don't panic.



Love the hitch hikers refference, words to live by for sure.  however i disagree on your point about them having to tell us anything;  they don't, esspecially considering they might loose sales if they cut us some bad news.  They would NEVER come out and say

"Hey guys, due to the new and improved Charecter creator having incompatiable options with ME 1 and 2 you guys are going to have to remake your Shepard."

I just don't see them saying that

"We apologize for the inconvenience" - is what they are more likely to say.... its also a hitchikers guide quote, but from what book Almostfaceman?   ;););)

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Sh2dak wrote...

The problem with communicating this issue to Bioware is that you're all tweeting the same question with different wording. And the worst part is that it's the wrong question to begin with.

ME2 saves with unmodified ME1 imported faces ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FACE CODES FULL STOP. If your ME2 face - THAT YOU IMPORTED FROM ME1 AND DID NOT MODIFY - has a face code, your character is bugged the **** out. Understand?

Other than that, the whole import function works completely damn fine.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE THAT WAS IMPORTED FROM ME1 WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
NO, YOU CANNOT IMPORT ME1 SAVES DIRECTLY TO ME3.

If however, you are one of the few who this ME2 face code bug has affected, you're going to have a problem. OKAY?


clearly stated. but are you sure it's true?

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My Femsheps imported nearly perfectly. Just some minor tweaking to make things look great with the new gen.

None of the males imported well.

Nothing looked even remotely close when I copied the ME3 codes into ME2... much scarier.

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S Seraff wrote...

Sh2dak wrote...

The problem with communicating this issue to Bioware is that you're all tweeting the same question with different wording. And the worst part is that it's the wrong question to begin with.

ME2 saves with unmodified ME1 imported faces ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FACE CODES FULL STOP. If your ME2 face - THAT YOU IMPORTED FROM ME1 AND DID NOT MODIFY - has a face code, your character is bugged the **** out. Understand?

Other than that, the whole import function works completely damn fine.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
YES, YOUR ME2 SAVE THAT WAS IMPORTED FROM ME1 WILL IMPORT TO ME3.
NO, YOU CANNOT IMPORT ME1 SAVES DIRECTLY TO ME3.

If however, you are one of the few who this ME2 face code bug has affected, you're going to have a problem. OKAY?


clearly stated. but are you sure it's true?


No, that's the point of this thread. Bioware seem to be unaware of this bug at all, but a few people have had trouble importing and this bug seems to be the cause.

So everytime a generic import question is posed to them they can't say anything other than 'importing works fine', because it does work fine. They (seemingly) just aren't aware of this ME2 bug that throws a stone in the cogs.

Modifié par Sh2dak, 01 mars 2012 - 08:53 .


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RGFrog wrote...

My Femsheps imported nearly perfectly. Just some minor tweaking to make things look great with the new gen.

None of the males imported well.

Nothing looked even remotely close when I copied the ME3 codes into ME2... much scarier.



All this is true for me.....are you talking about importing into demo or full retail of ME3?

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RGFrog wrote...

My Femsheps imported nearly perfectly. Just some minor tweaking to make things look great with the new gen.

None of the males imported well.

Nothing looked even remotely close when I copied the ME3 codes into ME2... much scarier.


Theres a few things i want to ask here. Your using face codes ? Are those facecodes from a save imported from me1? (if not its irrevelant to this topic) if they are then your saves are bugged. Saves originating from me1 should not have a face code. If its from me2 without importing from me1, then you need to report the bug as its an import problem.

One last thing, have you tried importing the save without using codes ? or did you do what i did and got a code from a bugged me2 save, input into the demo and raged? (unbeknownst that your save was actually bugged)

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noisecode wrote...

Love the hitch hikers refference, words to live by for sure.  however i disagree on your point about them having to tell us anything;  they don't, esspecially considering they might loose sales if they cut us some bad news.  They would NEVER come out and say

"Hey guys, due to the new and improved Charecter creator having incompatiable options with ME 1 and 2 you guys are going to have to remake your Shepard."

I just don't see them saying that

"We apologize for the inconvenience" - is what they are more likely to say.... its also a hitchikers guide quote, but from what book Almostfaceman?   ;););)


"So Long and Thanks for all the Fish" - well if folks are going to say they're lying, I'm not sure what the point of asking Bioware is, because you'll just say they're lying. A Catch-22, no? So, I was giving my opinion based on folks actually believing what Bioware will say. :)