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You can't import a face created in Mass Effect 1 into 3! Bioware has responded! (See OP)


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#1976
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squee365 wrote...

I go away for 4 hours and theres still no answer. I'm not surprised. DOES bioware want a sh**storm?
Because thats whats going to happen if they don't address this ASAP.


I suppose the situation would need to be upgraded from fecal drizzle, to fecal hurricane before they'd be forced to address it.

I guess we'll wait til tommorrow for a response.

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I am extremely disappointed that ME1 > ME2 faces can not be imported into ME3. That is... Yeah, a slap in the face.

#1978
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BIO18 wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

You know fellas, you should try recreating your Shepard in ME2. I did that once and I did get pixel perfect results. It shouldn't take too long and you can swap between imported and new so the comparison is really, really easy.


Thats what I did to get the code for my shepard. But you have to admit its not up to us to do their work. Soon we will have to answer a servey at the start to know what choices we made. 

I do agree. I find this situation unbelievable to be honest.

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Even though we shouldn't have to remake it. If they could import it into ME2 then there is no reason why they couldn't do it for 3. Its like if bioware announced that they killed of Shepard permanently and you now play as Jacob. That is the level of slap in the face we have recieved.


I don't disagree with this at all.

My personal opinion is that this isn't a bug but rather a design choice that is tied to the entire way the game is lit and looks.  I don't ever expect a patch - hope I'm wrong though.

Modifié par davidshooter, 05 mars 2012 - 10:09 .


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That kind of thing is inexcusable

I'm just totally bummed and have no idea what to say

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SLPr0 wrote...

squee365 wrote...

I go away for 4 hours and theres still no answer. I'm not surprised. DOES bioware want a sh**storm?
Because thats whats going to happen if they don't address this ASAP.


I suppose the situation would need to be upgraded from fecal drizzle, to fecal hurricane before they'd be forced to address it.

I guess we'll wait til tommorrow for a response.


I can just see it now...first page of the forums tomorrow...

-Why won't my Mass Effect 1 Shepard's face import?
-Face not recognized?
-N7 Collectors edition problem
-Really? I can't import my shepard's face?
-Where's my face?
-Blasto discussion
-ME1 face not recognized
-I have to start my face from scratch?
-DLC question
-ME1 face not working
-Face not loading
-Import problems
-N7 weapons
-What? can't import ME1 shepard?

and so on and so on

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lol. Ask IGN.

https://twitter.com/...780548948242432

"Tweet your Mass Effect 3 questions @IGN with #me3! NOW for a chance to win the game! http://go.ign.com/A0nxCm"

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I didn't try the OP method, but instead tried to recreate the face in ME2 and pasted it into the demo.
And this was the sad result:

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I didn't realize how awful ME3 graphics are until I put his together :blink: 


I wonder how they imported ME1 face into ME2 if they never had a facecode to begin with ( raw data? ). Why can't they just do the same in ME3?

:crying:

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The overall look of the ME3 creator is a big part of my disappointment.

I've seen some Sheps that come out looking alright when inputting the code but I have yet to see a single one that actually looks like the same person as the original from ME2.

Modifié par davidshooter, 05 mars 2012 - 10:19 .


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 ME2 made my Shep a ginger, ME3 reversed it. Woot. THe lighting is a little different, but I loving the ME3 verison. 

imgur.com/a/oWABg

imgur.com/a/LtO1e

Modifié par John Never Dies, 05 mars 2012 - 10:23 .


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abnocte wrote...

II wonder how they imported ME1 face into ME2 if they never had a facecode to begin with ( raw data? ). Why can't they just do the same in ME3?

:crying:

They aren't doing the same for ME3 because they are a corporate machine that is more interested in obtaining new customers for the FINAL game in the story than they are with satisfying the fans that have played the game series from the beginning because they know we'll buy it anyway because we want to see how it ends. Basically they have us loyal fans by the ba**s.

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davidshooter wrote...

We used to have to answer this all the time in the ME2 modding thread.

If you import an ME1 Shep and then go into custom and then back out again all that happens is the creator gives you the face code from whatever custom Shep you looked at. It will never be your ME1 Shep code.

As many people have already suggested you can import and then flip back and forth between the custom screen and your import and try to manually re-create your import.  If you're patient you can often get very close but the creator will never give you your ME1 code no matter what you do.

I feel like an idiot now. Was it just blind luck that it reproduced my Shepard? It came out almost identical except for he looks oddly purple and yellow in game but looks perfect in the squad screen. I honestly don't remember doing anything different with this one other than editing then changing my mind and going back to my original custom. So I assumed thats why I got the code that worked almost perfectly. Well I say perfect, but its about as close to perfect as ME3 seems to get.

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The game is out tomorrow. Let's hope we will get some kind of statement then, shall when?

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davidshooter wrote...

The overall look of the ME3 creator is a big part of my disappointment.

I've seen some Sheps that come out looking alright when inputting the code but I have yet to see a single one that actually looks like the same person as the original from ME2.


Check mine out, The difference of my dude from ME2 from ME1 is about the same for my Shep from ME2 to ME3.

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@DimmockDude

I consider myself a long time fan, I have followed Bioware since BG. But DA2 still burns in my mind, and I'm very set on forgetting about Bioware all together if ME3 resembles DA2 in any way.

I haven't preordered ME3, and the import face problem plus other things I've read from people that already own the game have convinced me not to buy this on launch. Depending on what happens in the next days I may consider buying it when the price drops.
I already paid too high a price for one of their products, I sure as hell won't allow that to happen again.

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abnocte wrote...

I didn't try the OP method, but instead tried to recreate the face in ME2 and pasted it into the demo.
And this was the sad result:

Image IPB


I didn't realize how awful ME3 graphics are until I put his together :blink: 


I wonder how they imported ME1 face into ME2 if they never had a facecode to begin with ( raw data? ). Why can't they just do the same in ME3?

:crying:


Why is it ME3 character resources look like they took a step back to the original game?

How come ME2's character resources seem much higher resolution? Even the hairs in ME3 have been cut down on polyfaces and in  some really poly intensive hairs they've been replaced entirely with far more simplistic "new" hair styles.

I really thought the demo was purposefully dumbed down but the ME3 CC resources seem about as plastic and lifeless as the original ME CC. Why would they back off the improvements ME2 made in that area?

It doesn't make any sense.

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http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/065/e/7/me3_face_import_fail_by_abnocte-d4rxupx.jpg


Nothing changed for me. Anyway, i was looking to this, my character was ugly as hell. As some people here said, you just need to copie the face numbers at character creation pannel. Wich is easy. I'm more worried with the constant freeze problemas i experienced at Mass Effect 3 demo.

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No wonder BioWare kept saying that ME3 is the best place to start... new players won't have to put up with the complete BS that longtime fans will where their characters don't even port over correctly.

Y'know... this is the last straw for me. This is just too much. ME3 is my last BioWare game. You were already walking on thin ice after DA2, and TOR was pretty much WoW with lightsabers even after all the claims from devs it wasn't, and ME3 was really the make or break for you guys. Considering all the work I've put into this trilogy, all the work I put into faces alone in ME1, and considering what this series was supposed to be... for this to happen, you guys have dropped all the balls on this. Every single one. And the fact you seem to clearly know this and that you're just keeping your mouths shut on the matter for what I assume is simply trying not to hurt your precious sales just makes it even more appalling. The reason I walked from DA2 was because of the attitudes and dishonesty of the people behind it rather than the quality of the game itself, and now it's pretty clear this isn't isolated to just that side of the BioWare team. And the ironic thing is, thanks to the new forum rules here, I'll probably be the one to get kicked off the forums for simply drawing attention to facts.

I already felt this company was going in the direction of, "out with the old fans, in with the new" as it was, but this takes the cake. Yes, I know there are so-called "workarounds" but that's not the point. It's the principle of the thing, and this is one of the earliest and most critical things the devs should have got right. It shouldn't be up to the community to fix a problem that should never have existed.

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abnocte wrote...

@DimmockDude

I consider myself a long time fan, I have followed Bioware since BG. But DA2 still burns in my mind, and I'm very set on forgetting about Bioware all together if ME3 resembles DA2 in any way.

I haven't preordered ME3, and the import face problem plus other things I've read from people that already own the game have convinced me not to buy this on launch. Depending on what happens in the next days I may consider buying it when the price drops.
I already paid too high a price for one of their products, I sure as hell won't allow that to happen again.

I'm happy for you. I wish i could not buy this lazy and unfinished product. But my stupid brain won't let me.

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I personally think that ME looked waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than ME3 demo.

If you look carefully to ME3 eyes shape you can see that eyelids are almost squares, meaning super low polycount! ME did way better!

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John Never Dies wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The overall look of the ME3 creator is a big part of my disappointment.

I've seen some Sheps that come out looking alright when inputting the code but I have yet to see a single one that actually looks like the same person as the original from ME2.


Check mine out, The difference of my dude from ME2 from ME1 is about the same for my Shep from ME2 to ME3.


Honestly,  they don't look like the same guy - at least not to me.  Nothing wrong with either one though.

Everytime I see the faces side by side I'm always struck by how much better the faces looked before too.

Modifié par davidshooter, 05 mars 2012 - 10:34 .


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Sorry I'm constantly commenting on this guys but its just really annoying me.

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Bioware has been my favorite developer since KOTOR, and it looks like I might have to leave after ME3. Sorry guys, its not me, its you bioware.<3:?:(:(:(:(:(

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I'm sort of wishing I could un-buy it but its already done and over with.

Why is it slick CG trailers get me every time? Seriously. I'm not buying another game unless the freaking trailer looks amazing and has "ACTUAL GAME PLAY" in big white letters smeared across it.

Tired of the freaking CGI glam machine making games look like something they're not. Heres a thought game developers....maybe if your CGI is selling your games, your games should look like your CGI or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof.

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The obvious solution is:

-Load ME1 save , write down code.

-Start new ME2 game , input that code and tweak face as necessary. Write down new code

- Start new ME3 game, input the last code and re-tweak.

Major grind, I know, but not an insurmountable issue.