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RogueKrogan

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Spend 40,000 credits to unlock a specific race/class combo. People who are tired of unlocking the same classes over and over again will plunk down a good amount of credits while more patient people will keep using the packs. Yay/nay?

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ncknck

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RogueKrogan wrote...

Spend 4,000,000 credits to unlock a specific race/class combo. People who are tired of unlocking the same classes over and over again will plunk down a good amount of credits while more patient people will keep using the packs. Yay/nay?


fixed.

Modifié par ncknck, 28 février 2012 - 02:55 .


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ncknck wrote...

RogueKrogan wrote...

Spend 4,000,000 credits to unlock a specific race/class combo. People who are tired of unlocking the same classes over and over again will plunk down a good amount of credits while more patient people will keep using the packs. Yay/nay?


fixed.


you sound like a fool.

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TeaL3af

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40,000 is a pretty low amount. Why would you ever buy a crate?

I'd like it, but BioWare seem set on using this bizarre open crate model. Probably to make people play longer.

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jimmyw404

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They just need to make it so that you have a chance to unlock a class and unlocked classes are removed from the pool. That way there are 3 or 4 unlock cards and everytime you unlock a new card (female soldier trollolol) you get closer to unlocking that salarian infiltrator or whatever.

The benefit to the randomization is that you unlock things broadly which allows players to change classes more frequently. If you changed it so that you could simply get 'widow' packs at 200,000 credits a pop instead of veteran packs at 20,000 credits a pop you might have a widow X when you would otherwise have a Widow II but you'd be lacking a carnifax, claymore etc and wouldn't be able to just switch classes. 

Modifié par jimmyw404, 28 février 2012 - 03:23 .


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Calhoun0

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If there will be random items only, we should be allowed to purchase Character Packs containing only random characters, Weapon Packs containing only random weapons, etc. - maybe these would cost 30,000 credits, providing three random characters or weapons per pack (depending on which pack you're purchasing) so you're guaranteed to receive items of the category you desire.

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TeaL3af

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For 30k just one random character would be fine, you don't always get one in a veteran pack.

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Yeah put insane number of credit so there will be tons of hacker who just mod there save to get everything for free and lol'd at people who do not hack...

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ncknck

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if mods will be possible then hackers will mod it regardless of the cost and be maxed out on day 1.

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Litany of Fury

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In regards to modders, if Bioware takes the Bungie approach to modding/hacking doing so would be a bad idea. 'You modded the multiplayer? No multiplayer for you!'

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I really don't like this idea of guaranteed unlocks. Everyone plays for, say, a week, gets everything unlocked, then gets bored because there's nothing left to do. That completely kills the multiplayer.

I'll say it right now: I like the current system.

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Litany of Fury

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ZweiWing wrote...

I really don't like this idea of guaranteed unlocks. Everyone plays for, say, a week, gets everything unlocked, then gets bored because there's nothing left to do. That completely kills the multiplayer.

I'll say it right now: I like the current system.


And I totally agree with you. It makes getting that weapon/race/class you wanted that much sweeter when you finally unlock it.

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jimmyw404 wrote...

They just need to make it so that you have a chance to unlock a class and unlocked classes are removed from the pool. That way there are 3 or 4 unlock cards and everytime you unlock a new card (female soldier trollolol) you get closer to unlocking that salarian infiltrator or whatever.


Only problem with that is, character cards you already have also unlock additional customization options.

You take that away and people will complain unless you just give all options on initial unlock.

Modifié par Ecmoose, 28 février 2012 - 03:57 .


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ZweiWing

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Litany of Fury wrote...

In regards to modders, if Bioware takes the Bungie approach to modding/hacking doing so would be a bad idea. 'You modded the multiplayer? No multiplayer for you!'


Why is that bad? Have you ever read the EULA that you agree to every time you install a game? Part of that agreement is agreeing to play the game as is, without modifications, unless said modifications are done through DLC or patches from the developer. Why should you be able to mod a game that you agreed to not mod and still play it? Bungie's approach is entirely justified.

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No, no. Make that a 100K if you want unlock a "new" class.

30K is way to low, i mean you get in one silver match 20-25K, the whole point of your system will vanish. 100K seems right and even then some random class and race but a guaranteed one.

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Litany of Fury

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ZweiWing wrote...

Litany of Fury wrote...

In regards to modders, if Bioware takes the Bungie approach to modding/hacking doing so would be a bad idea. 'You modded the multiplayer? No multiplayer for you!'


Why is that bad? Have you ever read the EULA that you agree to every time you install a game? Part of that agreement is agreeing to play the game as is, without modifications, unless said modifications are done through DLC or patches from the developer. Why should you be able to mod a game that you agreed to not mod and still play it? Bungie's approach is entirely justified.


I probably worded that a bit badly. I was trying to say that if Bioware takes the Bungie approach then modding the game would be a very bad idea. And I do hope that they take the Bungie approach. It's not right if cheating like that is tolerated.

Modifié par Litany of Fury, 28 février 2012 - 04:18 .


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Kylina77

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There will be more packs available in the full game, at least that is one of the Bioware rep firmly suggested, it was also said that the random is not likely to go away.
Somaybe a pack for some random class unlock will be there.
Wait and see.
Also removing the random would kill multiplayer, people would jsut pick what they want, play a bit, get bored and move away. Or worse unlock everything in a matter of days, still get bored becuse nothing more to unlock and move away.

Multiple different packs yes, all served on silver plate no.

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I would love the option to buy any rare gold for say 300,000 credits thats 6 gold games 10 silver or 20 bronze approx.

I think thats pretty fair.

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AcidThe Wraith

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Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I would love the option to buy any rare gold for say 300,000 credits thats 6 gold games 10 silver or 20 bronze approx.

I think thats pretty fair.


This, and/or a crate that costs 100,000 but has a guarenteed gold card in it.

Can't wait to see what they do in the final, full game. 

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I like the poke'mon system, its fine. I like the fact it'll take months to get my fav. race/class the way i like her/him.

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Litany of Fury wrote...

In regards to modders, if Bioware takes the Bungie approach to modding/hacking doing so would be a bad idea. 'You modded the multiplayer? No multiplayer for you!'


Those wouldn't be modders, they would be hackers. The difference is whilst the ones do modify files to get things, hackers do modify files to gain an unfair advantage. Getting yourself free credits is an unfair advantage, making them hackers, not modders, at least in my books.

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Oh come on now, why do you care about hackers in a non-PvP game? Does it hurt you when someone has more credits and bigger lvl than you in Co-Op?

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Litany of Fury wrote...

ZweiWing wrote...

I really don't like this idea of guaranteed unlocks. Everyone plays for, say, a week, gets everything unlocked, then gets bored because there's nothing left to do. That completely kills the multiplayer.

I'll say it right now: I like the current system.


And I totally agree with you. It makes getting that weapon/race/class you wanted that much sweeter when you finally unlock it.


This is assuming you EVER get it.  With it being random, you could play your whole life, and possibly NEVER get it.  At max level in the demo with a smaller pool of items and every non-rare weapon and mod maxed... there are still multiple weapons and classes I don't have.  Vet packs give common cards now, and nothing else. 

That's random.  It's the chance of the RNG &*%$ing you over forever and ever and ever.  You want to play as "X class"?  Too bad.  You can get every other weapon and class in the game till you tire of the bull**** random system and never play again.

Modifié par Jitawa, 28 février 2012 - 04:52 .


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Epic Legion wrote...

Oh come on now, why do you care about hackers in a non-PvP game? Does it hurt you when someone has more credits and bigger lvl than you in Co-Op?

day one, everyone will be maxed n7-120 and full gear. Day two everyone will be running with infinite health and ammo. Although the latter will happen on day one as well, since we now had a long time to test the demo. Would you really would want to play a game where everyone but you is unkillable and everyone but you has 10x better equipment.

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I wouldn't mind having the ability to buy a race/weapon outright, but the price should be high. It should take quite a while to earn the money for that.

Other than that, I'd really just like that a character class is removed from the pool once the character is lvl 20 with all customization options unlocked. I am so tired of getting the Human Engineer and Sentinel in almost every pack, sometimes even the same one twice in a pack. I still don't have the widow and you know...I'd rather have that than something that is completely useless and making me feel like I just wasted time on a match and a vet pack.