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On Shepard being a 'clone'. (SPOILERIFIC, but nothing conclusive)


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Fisto The Sexbot

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Alright... I hope this is the right forum to put this. I realize Mass Effect 3 isn't out yet, but I saw some bits of the leaked script (which of course aren't necessarily final). I like speculating on spoilers (some don't), so... you've been warned.

For Mass Effect 3, I've read some of the leaked script that has Shepard explaining to one of his/her squadmates (Liara I think) about his/her 'death'. Shepard says (s)he really doesn't know whether it's 'him/her' or not. That (s)he tried to keep things level-headed in Mass Effect 2 while the mission was still going on, and seems kinda bothered by it when bringing it up now (in Mass Effect 3).

So... if the leaked script is to be trusted, again, Shepard really doesn't know whether (s)he's the one that died having been brought to life or someone else created in his image. Ashley asks if (s)he's seen any proof of some sort of afterlife or anything. Shepard goes on to say that (s)he saw a light... when (s)he woke up in the medbay. So there's nothing (as expected).

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Nathan Redgrave

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That's interesting. I was honestly expecting that conversation in ME2, I'm glad they at least got around to letting Shepard ask those questions.

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Can I get a PM for the new leaked script? :)

I'm glad the whole death topic is being brought up again

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may I also get a PM for the leaked script?

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All it really is is the fact that Shepard's resurrection calls into question religious beliefs. The series does have religious beliefs in it. Mordin, Thane, Ashley

Outright dismissing those, and a good portion of their audience, with a guy who's been dead and knows nothing of heaven would probably be too confrontational. So they leave it as a question.

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I believe that it would give shepard some more depth to his character if there was a consistent feeling whether he was the real him. But I would like it to be left at the point in which he is the same just rebuilt.

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I also would liked to be pm'd a script.
I wish renShep could say i saw FSM

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Can someone PM me the script

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Fisto The Sexbot

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unfortunately I don't remember the exact page... but this is the source: http://dana-duchovny...tag/mass effect

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Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.

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Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows up and was gasping for air after been thrown out of the Normandy....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.


Sorry for accidental double post
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Modifié par xIREDEEMEDIx, 28 février 2012 - 04:35 .


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Jacob: Can't say you were in good shape... when i first saw you, you were just meat and tubes

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xIREDEEMEDIx wrote...

Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.

And that ladies and gentlemen is why you always wear your helmet. Posted Image

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Wow~ This is really interesting. I kind of hope not but I could see this being true. The crazy thing is although The Illusive Man told Miranda that he wanted the same Shepard that was before.....I wonder though.....

Miranda would be the only one to know no?

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Kasen13 wrote...

xIREDEEMEDIx wrote...

Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.

And that ladies and gentlemen is why you always wear your helmet. Posted Image



even to the bathroom....never know when you'll slip on pee and hit your head on the corner of the counter. Final Destination Effect?   ( I know it was a lame comment) <_<

In all seriousness, there is a big conversation when Separd is finding this stuff out.

Modifié par xIREDEEMEDIx, 28 février 2012 - 04:55 .


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I'm glad that this is going to be addressed. It always bothered me how Shepard gets told that he was dead and that Cerebus brought him back to life and he never questions how it was done, he never questions is own existance or whether or not he is still the same man he used to be. It also used to bother me alot when Shepard would meet up with people who knew him in ME1 and they would say 'we thought you were dead' and Shepard would reply 'Cerebus rebuilt me' and they would just exempt that at face value.

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I always assumed Shepard was clone ( despite what Jacob thinks when you first meet him on the Lazarus station ) it is the most logical explanation to explain how a supposedly dead man could be brought back to life. I was never happy with any of the Shepard being rebuilt with Reaper tech theories, I do not like the thought of the game going there.

Modifié par Raizo, 28 février 2012 - 05:18 .


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I need this
Joker: Hey, I know I used to rag on Garrus for being all angry, but I'm glad he's back. There's a whole lot of crap out there needs a bullet between the eyes. Plus, we might need something calibrated.

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xIREDEEMEDIx wrote...

Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.


At those speeds, a helmet wouldn't matter.

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OdanUrr wrote...

xIREDEEMEDIx wrote...

Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.


At those speeds, a helmet wouldn't matter.


True. 

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Let's just say they made a cyborg and put Shep's face on it. Shep is rocking in his grave as Cyborg Shep does the deed with Liara/VS in ME3.

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Could someone PM me the leaked script too? Thanks

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We know exactly what they did from the logs in the Lazarus facility. First, they tried to regrow him, then they went to bio-synthetic fusion (cybernetic implants) to speed up the process. Wilson refers to it as the greatest medical achievement in recorded history, which sure wouldn't be true if he were a clone. No, they got Shepard's body back, re-grew what they could, augmented what they couldn't, and at some point got the body and brain up and running again.

Mayhap impossible in real life, but this is what they were going for. Of course, Shepard being in the understandably skeptical position of having to wrap his head around this, would at least be inclined to wonder if it were the case.

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Nathan Redgrave wrote...

We know exactly what they did from the logs in the Lazarus facility. First, they tried to regrow him, then they went to bio-synthetic fusion (cybernetic implants) to speed up the process. Wilson refers to it as the greatest medical achievement in recorded history, which sure wouldn't be true if he were a clone. No, they got Shepard's body back, re-grew what they could, augmented what they couldn't, and at some point got the body and brain up and running again.

Mayhap impossible in real life, but this is what they were going for. Of course, Shepard being in the understandably skeptical position of having to wrap his head around this, would at least be inclined to wonder if it were the case.


"I didn't ask for this.":bandit:

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Rasenchidori wrote...

Could someone PM me the leaked script too? Thanks

Ditto on the PM.

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Raizo wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

xIREDEEMEDIx wrote...

Shepard tells Ashley that he doesn't remember other than the Normandy blows and was gasping for air....then he wakes up to the light in the Cerberus lab.

...they also ask Shepard how did his body survive the fall to the planet when his body was mutilated. They tell Shepard the reason why they were able to put him back together is because his helmet was able to keep his brain intact when he hit the ground. If his brain came out of his skull, they would not have been able to revive him.


At those speeds, a helmet wouldn't matter.


True. 



Dunno, that is what I have read....but too, it could have changed by now along with everything else.  -_-