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[the almighty moo]

i think because Joker needs a lil 'somethin somethin'

[zestyshade]

Carnage752 wrote...

I love how haters stew in their own anger with other haters, but someone comes up with a good argument against their views, they either ignore it or disregard it.

Seriously, if you look in the spoilers section ( Which this thread should be) you will see a reason for it.

But when they make James Vega buff, everyone goes " He's nothing but a meathead, wth Bioware???" If a woman needs to be ugly to be smart in your eyes, then clearly you're the superficial one.

And lets remember there is lots of gene therapy nowadays in Mass Effect. They could easily tweak women to be attractive. But whatever, I'm superficial because all smart women are ugly bettys while hot women are Snookies.

Two sides of the same coin: men are buff and muscular hunks, women are slender and beautiful satisfaction devices.
<_<

[muse108]

I liked her as a disembodied blue orb personally, dont see the point of giving her a body personally.

[Someone With Mass]

Lee T wrote...

Sexy female robot is an old trope (pretty much all that's left in the collective mind of Fritz Lang's Metropolis is shots of the robot lady). You can blame 7o9 for the contemporary mind.

Interesting enough the art book says that the design for her body was inspired by Metropolis.

I really don't have a problem with it being a sexy bot myself. She's still EDI. If I think her current look is sort of meh, I can always hope that the AA outfits that comes with the DLC will change that.

[Darth Asriel]

The idea that she can romance Joker is ludicrously stupid:

1) she is an AI and technically not female
2) she has no concept of love or sexuality
3) if joker's brittle bone disease prevents him from getting it on with a human female, how is it possible for him to bang a titanium or some other METAL groin?

This is like something written by a retarded rabid monkey!

[ReveurIngenu]

I would say Bioware is being like a horny teenage boy trying to live out his fantasies through ME.  First, they create an all lesbian race.  Now that they've tired of that, they've decided to make a female looking robotic sex object willing to do anything and everything, because hey, isn't that what teenage boys fantasize about after lesbians?<_<

*sigh*  ME really does seem to be someone's sexual fantasy world, and I think it totally reinforces the idea that video game players are all nerds incapable of getting laid.  Yeah, I'm sure they'll try to justify it like they tried to pass off a certain race for something other than sexual objects meant to titillate the straight male gamer, but we all know why they did it.

Let me guess, EDI needed big shiny boobs because it'll make her more aerodynamic when she enters the atmosphere of a planet during some kind of high risk secret mission that only has a 0.0001% chance of success?  <_<

[Kog27]

so kids will buy her dlc

[Travie]

Knowing Bioware, they will say that it was her that picked out the body.

[mybudgee]

Kind dumb. I agree

[BillsVengenace]

Is it anymore dumb than the Alliance allowing a Cerberus AI to remain on the Normandy?

[DJBare]

Good grief!, either visit the spoiler section or wait for the game, there is a reason for EDI's body and her programming, yes it's part fan service, but it's not as though she does not have a background story like most fan service.

[Giantdeathrobot]

So that we can get out Austin Powers-inspired weird robot fetishes going. because Mass Effect really needed that, right? Right?

[Nektos]

Because Joker has a thing for her. I know they say their relationship is more of a platonic thing, but I know the truth!

[Davidicus]

EDI always had kind of a sexy voice, how is this surprising?

[android654]

Malanek999 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

android654 wrote...
artificial intelligence=/= human thoughts or experience

EDI has no notion of sexy or attractive. Those are concepts which would be vague at best. Also EDI isn't a she nor a he. She has no gender to speak of because she isn't organic and she isn't autonomous so she can't rationalize like a person. As an artificial intelligence that has been taught to operate in a military function, once in a body her first thoughts would be about protection, preservation and how to accomplish her work. Would she be able to do that as a sex-bot or as a robot that physically durable and equipped with the armor and weapons it needs to protect itself.

EDI is not a VI, she is an AI. She shows compassion, she shows a sense of humour, she wants to be part of the crew etc etc. It is somewhat of a hypothetical discussion but once you get into the realms of artifical intelligence there are many different grades. EDI is being represented as the ultimate goal - a fully intelligent entity. Once they start thinking for themselves and genuinely learning they take on their own personality. Being organic is completely irrelevant.

VI? Who said anything about a VI?

*SIGH*

I'll put it like this. EDI is more like a child than a super being. Her interaction with people allows her to grow with experience. Yes she understands how to fraternize and communicate with people, but the desire to be physically appealing is not something she would just pick up. She's ignorant of what "sexy" even means or the intricacies of human interaction at a sexual level. Sex is not something an AI would think about without enough exposure that they can understand it. Think about all her time in the Normandy including the years it took to develop her to that point and yet her communication with people is still not at a human level. Imagine all she would have to do and all the time that would have to pass in order for her to become curious about engaging in sex.

Ha ha, now you're calling her a she
What you described originally was not a genuine artificial intelligence. Yes, she will be childlike in human understanding, but more like an exceptionally intelligent child. She would easily understand what is sterotypically considered sexy, even if she may be wrong on some of the finer points. She has a bit of an ego, in ME2 she likes to point out how awesome she is. She gets slightly irritated when Shepard is a jerk. The years it took to develop her are irrelevant, once she starts learning she develops her own communication skills. She wants to be considered part of the crew. Similar story philosophies have been explored from Frankenstein through to I Robot. 

None of what you said explains how something that is completely ignorant about sex would suddenly want to become physically appealing to warrant sexual attraction from a different kind of being.

[Nathan Redgrave]

- Appearing human makes interaction with humans easier, as you can gesture and express in a human way, better conveying meaning and subtle inflection. Also, the female form is generally aesthetically pleasing and tends to put people at ease and/or distract them, which are both useful effects in certain circumstances. These are basically the same reason that the V.I.s we've encountered look like humanoid females.
- EDI is a sentient being, machine or no, and at least one line of leaked dialogue confirms that she appreciates environmental beauty. Perhaps she has aesthetic sense as well.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

android654 wrote...

None of what you said explains how something that is completely ignorant about sex would suddenly want to become physically appealing to warrant sexual attraction from a different kind of being.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

- Appearing human makes interaction with humans easier, as you can gesture and express in a human way, better conveying meaning and subtle inflection. Also, the female form is generally aesthetically pleasing and tends to put people at ease and/or distract them, which are both useful effects in certain circumstances. These are basically the same reason that the V.I.s we've encountered look like humanoid females.
- EDI is a sentient being, machine or no, and at least one line of leaked dialogue confirms that she appreciates environmental beauty. Perhaps she has aesthetic sense as well.

She's an AI - she can control bodies at will. Her piloting a "standard pleasure model" platform on the battlefield is like you or me going into a  warzone holding a fleshlight.

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

Ha, bioware should have made a hologram for EDI, Tricia Helfer would have nailed it!!!

[android654]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

- Appearing human makes interaction with humans easier, as you can gesture and express in a human way, better conveying meaning and subtle inflection. Also, the female form is generally aesthetically pleasing and tends to put people at ease and/or distract them, which are both useful effects in certain circumstances. These are basically the same reason that the V.I.s we've encountered look like humanoid females.
- EDI is a sentient being, machine or no, and at least one line of leaked dialogue confirms that she appreciates environmental beauty. Perhaps she has aesthetic sense as well.

aesthetics =/=sexual appeal. At least not all of the time.

People may see the aesthetic value of Venus of Willendorf but I doubt people would find her as sexually appealing as Boticelli's Venus. Also sexual attraction is not entirely based on aeesthetics and there's the basic human element at play which EDI would lack due to the limit of what she's albe to comprehend at the moment the amount and depth of her interaction with people.

[zestyshade]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

- Appearing human makes interaction with humans easier, as you can gesture and express in a human way, better conveying meaning and subtle inflection. Also, the female form is generally aesthetically pleasing and tends to put people at ease and/or distract them, which are both useful effects in certain circumstances. These are basically the same reason that the V.I.s we've encountered look like humanoid females.
- EDI is a sentient being, machine or no, and at least one line of leaked dialogue confirms that she appreciates environmental beauty. Perhaps she has aesthetic sense as well.

She's an AI - she can control bodies at will. Her piloting a "standard pleasure model" platform on the battlefield is like you or me going into a  warzone holding a fleshlight.

Chasing people down the battlefield with one ala Borat

[Nathan Redgrave]

BillsVengenace wrote...

Is it anymore dumb than the Alliance allowing a Cerberus AI to remain on the Normandy?

Minor spoiler, but EDI pretended to be a VI. Engineer Adams cottoned on, but decided to leave it be because Joker trusted her.

It's good to have a crew that trusts each other unconditionally. Lets you pull helpful-yet-not-strictly-legal things behind the backs of those in charge without having to fear someone pulling the rug out from beneath your feet.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 29 février 2012 - 12:06 .

[Travie]

If I don't walk in on them in the cockpit bumping uglies I'll be disapoint.

[DJBare]

android654 wrote...
None of what you said explains how something that is completely ignorant about sex would suddenly want to become physically appealing to warrant sexual attraction from a different kind of being.

"Sighs", like I said, visit the spoiler section, she is certainly not ignorant.

[MrStabHappy42]

Because of boobs, that's why.