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[Maialeth]

I wouldn't mind an ending where everyone dies. But for the /GOOD/ or the "BEST'" possible ending to be that Shep lives only to starve to death alone while the rest of the crew are Shot away and crashed on another planet only to starve to death as well.. Yeah.. That to me is a pretty ****ty 'best' ending. At the very least, why couldn't they have all been stranded together to starve to death that way? Jeebus.

[Shatterhand1701]

 Did anyone yet consider the possibility that they're leaving the story open for a continuation in some form, either in a post-game DLC, Mass Effect 4 or a Mass Effect MMO?  I know that seems a bit like grasping at straws, but we were told to hold onto our savegames from ME3; there had to be a reason for that.

I don't know...just trying to keep a "glass isn't hopelessly empty" viewpoint on things.  If I'm wrong, oh well.

[Elite Midget]

Don't get twisted just yet. Wait until after the game releases before lighting this place on fire. If Bioware did make those the only choices than they will lose many fans and take a huge PR hit. With how DAII ended up and SWTOR was received with mixed results is not a good sign. It's setting a trend that many fans aren't liking and will end up not supporting a company they used to love.

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

 Did anyone yet consider the
possibility that they're leaving the story open for a continuation in
some form, either in a post-game DLC, Mass Effect 4 or a Mass Effect
MMO?  I know that seems a bit like grasping at straws, but we were told
to hold onto our savegames from ME3; there had to be a reason for that.

I don't know...just trying to keep a "glass isn't hopelessly empty" viewpoint on things.  If I'm wrong, oh well.

Mass Effect 3 was said to be Sheperds last story. That's
why fans are angry about the grimdark only endings for Sheperd. Wait
till the game releases, the shippers and LI fans will bring this forum
down through forced of sheer rage.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 29 février 2012 - 06:27 .

[the_one_54321]

Elite Midget wrote...
That's not what fans are asking for. You're just twisting things against those that didn't want a total grimdark ending as their only choice in a game about choices.

So what? "I don't like it," and "it's badly done" are not equivalent statements. Some of the best endings ever have been entirely depressing.

Shatterhand1701 wrote...
Did anyone yet consider the possibility that they're leaving the story open for a continuation in some form, either in a post-game DLC, Mass Effect 4 or a Mass Effect MMO?

Oh man, that truly would be horrible. Please don't suggest such things.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 29 février 2012 - 06:27 .

[Maialeth]

Still holding out hope for a NG+ special ending.

[Elite Midget]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...
That's not what fans are asking for. You're just twisting things against those that didn't want a total grimdark ending as their only choice in a game about choices.

So what? "I don't like it," and "it's badly done" are not equivalent statements. Some of the best endings ever have been entirely depressing.

Shatterhand1701 wrote...
Did anyone yet consider the possibility that they're leaving the story open for a continuation in some form, either in a post-game DLC, Mass Effect 4 or a Mass Effect MMO?

Oh man, that truly would be horrible. Please don't suggest such things.

And your "Deal with it?" is any better?

This is a huge shift from the illusion of choice ME1 and ME2 offered that even gave you a happy ending if you worked your ass off. Now suddenly all the endings have to be grimdark only with all of them ending with Sheperd dieing a painful death with the only difference being the time you die?

Many fans will be right to be angry because of this shift.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

the_one_54321 wrote...
Oh man, that truly would be horrible. Please don't suggest such things.

I already have as well. What better way to keep getting more money? 
Since this seems to be... the end of a part of the fanbase too?

[the_one_54321]

Elite Midget wrote...
And your "Deal with it?" is any better?

Whenever a story has been "finished," trying to drag it on only ever makes it worse in some way. Perhaps at some later date, a story can be extended. But to pull an "it's over....JUST KIDDING!!!" almost always cheapens a story.

[Apophis2412]

Just found this in an intervieuw with Mark Gamble:


Mike Gamble: There are many ways to end Shepard’s story, right? I wouldn’t necessarily say ending Shepard’s story means one thing or the other, like life or death or whatever. It comes to a conclusion and how you get to that conclusion.

There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get there. As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s not cut and dry.

There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…

Source: http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

But the whole "you get to the Citadel and choose the ending" part contradicts in a way what is said in the interview, right?

[Elite Midget]

Apophis2412 wrote...

Just found this in an intervieuw with Mark Gamble:


Mike Gamble: There are many ways to end Shepard’s story, right? I wouldn’t necessarily say ending Shepard’s story means one thing or the other, like life or death or whatever. It comes to a conclusion and how you get to that conclusion.

There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get there. As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s not cut and dry.

There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…

Source: http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/

Many different endings...

*Looks at Leaked info*

Right....

[Siegdrifa]

Elite Midget wrote...

Many other fans don't want their Sheperd to die or get stranded far away from anyone to die a slow and painful death via starvation.

I'll reserve any final judgement on the ending when i'll play the game, because even if the leak are true, we would need to see the pictures to get the whole context.
Form the writting without context, i find it hard that Bioware would let the crew lost on a unknown location, what would be the meaning ? slow death from starvation? it's unlikly as it serve no purpose and wouldn't carry any message or meaning for their survival.
Shepard surviving the blast but stay alone forever ? why? if we were sure s/he would be alone forever, to get killed in the blast would be less painfull, at some point any human would agree that death could be more a delivrance (extremely painfull sickness that can't be cured as exemple).
My point is, i wouldn't bet the writter would "let live" in order to "let die slowly" on the "best ending", what would be the reason behind that ? it's either "you die with the reapers" or "you survive but you will die in solitude and starvation".
I think it could be misintrepreted.
The way i see from a writting point of view, treating "survival" must carry as much meaning as "sacrifice".
We end up with the reapers dead, earth isn't fully destroyed, multi spicies in the sol system, normandy crew is alive, and cherry on the cake, Shep is alive. Where there is life, there is hope, we don't need to see them reunited at that point, because if it was to suffer a slow grim death then getting killed would been the "good" ending, they stay alive because on day they will find each other again.
That would be a pretty cheerfull ending IMO, for my interpretation, in fact, nearly "perfect".

So, wait and see if the context can match that or not, either way, it's not like we have real power over this, but when i see many people arguing on what's what on their interpretation over ME1 and ME2, we can expect different interpretation of the same ending by different people for ME3 and for each thinking their interpretation is the only truth.

May be i'll have the biggest let down of the year too who knows, wait and see wait and see, that is all.

[RyuujinZERO]

I have to ask, but does anyone remember any of the mis-information and rage that accompanied Mass Effect 2's release. i know there was similar hysteria surrounding ME2's release and how the ending was going to suck and in fact half the rumours turned out to be false

I'm just curious if anyone knows what those rumours *were* back then, how far they missed the mark...

[CerberusSoldier]

yeah many different ending sure ..

[AkiKishi]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

I have to ask, but does anyone remember any of the mis-information and rage that accompanied Mass Effect 2's release. i know there was similar hysteria surrounding ME2's release and how the ending was going to suck and in fact half the rumours turned out to be false

I'm just curious if anyone knows what those rumours *were* back then, how far they missed the mark...

But the ending did suck. Or did anyone think the T-800 was wonderful?

[AkiKishi]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

But the whole "you get to the Citadel and choose the ending" part contradicts in a way what is said in the interview, right?

You mean like Arrival being sold on the idea that Shepard would have a trial?

[Elite Midget]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...
And your "Deal with it?" is any better?

Whenever a story has been "finished," trying to drag it on only ever makes it worse in some way. Perhaps at some later date, a story can be extended. But to pull an "it's over....JUST KIDDING!!!" almost always cheapens a story.

No one wants to drag it out. We all knew this was Sheperds last story. They just wanted a conclusion not "You're Dead!" or... "You might live but will never meet your friends and lover ever again! To be Continued!"

But with how this game is apparantly ending it kills any chance of any more games in the ME Universe. Nor would Bioware be inclined to make more since Fan hate will soar higher than DAII with many saying they wont even get DAIII despite Bioware trying to make good for that PR disaster.

[Elite Midget]

Siegdrifa wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Many other fans don't want their Sheperd to die or get stranded far away from anyone to die a slow and painful death via starvation.

I'll reserve any final judgement on the ending when i'll play the game, because even if the leak are true, we would need to see the pictures to get the whole context.
Form the writting without context, i find it hard that Bioware would let the crew lost on a unknown location, what would be the meaning ? slow death from starvation? it's unlikly as it serve no purpose and wouldn't carry any message or meaning for their survival.
Shepard surviving the blast but stay alone forever ? why? if we were sure s/he would be alone forever, to get killed in the blast would be less painfull, at some point any human would agree that death could be more a delivrance (extremely painfull sickness that can't be cured as exemple).
My point is, i wouldn't bet the writter would "let live" in order to "let die slowly" on the "best ending", what would be the reason behind that ? it's either "you die with the reapers" or "you survive but you will die in solitude and starvation".
I think it could be misintrepreted.
The way i see from a writting point of view, treating "survival" must carry as much meaning as "sacrifice".
We end up with the reapers dead, earth isn't fully destroyed, multi spicies in the sol system, normandy crew is alive, and cherry on the cake, Shep is alive. Where there is life, there is hope, we don't need to see them reunited at that point, because if it was to suffer a slow grim death then getting killed would been the "good" ending, they stay alive because on day they will find each other again.
That would be a pretty cheerfull ending IMO, for my interpretation, in fact, nearly "perfect".

So, wait and see if the context can match that or not, either way, it's not like we have real power over this, but when i see many people arguing on what's what on their interpretation over ME1 and ME2, we can expect different interpretation of the same ending by different people for ME3 and for each thinking their interpretation is the only truth.

May be i'll have the biggest let down of the year too who knows, wait and see wait and see, that is all.

There won't be a one more day, at least not for Sheperd since you can die in many of the endings and Bioware coined this as the last game that Sheperd will be in.

[Marta Rio]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

 Did anyone yet consider the
possibility that they're leaving the story open for a continuation in
some form, either in a post-game DLC, Mass Effect 4 or a Mass Effect
MMO?  I know that seems a bit like grasping at straws, but we were told
to hold onto our savegames from ME3; there had to be a reason for that.

I don't know...just trying to keep a "glass isn't hopelessly empty" viewpoint on things.  If I'm wrong, oh well.

I've definitely thought about this possibility.  I mean if we are going with the theory that "the EA overlords want to milk us for all we're worth" then post-game DLC (or possibly another game) that resolves certain "objectionable" plot points regarding particular characters makes a ton of sense. 

It's not like there isn't precedent for this sort of thing.  The Fallout 3 "Broken Steel" DLC (that gives you an extended ending) was soley due to fan backlash and not pre-planning, but what if someone at EA saw it and thought, hey, this isn't such a bad business model?  I wouldn't put it past them.

I don't know the total extent of the spoilers (I haven't read the specific endings) but I know some of the details, and well, my rule with fiction is if we're made to think a character is doomed, but we aren't specifically shown their death, then well, there's a reason for it.   

Ehhh, that'll be my story anyway if it turns out if the spoiled endings are true.  Here's hoping that they aren't.

[Garrus30]

One thing I want to remind you all, the people (space guy, tank, xio) who played the game and say that they watched every ending scene (video .bik file) and claim there is no other ending, what if  they just missed the other endings?

Some endings could be in-game, which depends on how you played Mass Effect 1 to 3.
There is no video cut scenes with Shepard because you can make your own Shepard, therefor the ending must be with your (customized) shepard and not the default sheploo/femshep.

Modifié par Garrus30, 29 février 2012 - 07:18 .

[Siegdrifa]

Elite Midget wrote...


There won't be a one more day, at least not for Sheperd since you can die in many of the endings and Bioware coined this as the last game that Sheperd will be in.

It doesn't need a one more day.
They just don't need to show any reunification (if your shep survive), becayse it's the meaning of their survival, if the game stop at reapers dead, earth "saved" and everyone alive, it's enough, credit roll
But to confirm this interpretation, i would need to see their faces in the ending, listent to the music, and many other details, because they can carry meanings too for the people who watch to make an interpretation.

[Chromes]

There was an interesting idea on another forum: that this is some kind of protection from pirates. Like at 6th march while activating the bought copy you'll download some number of files containing additional endings/video etc.
Though it doesn't explain the leaked info of Space Edition.

[AkiKishi]

Chromes wrote...

There was an interesting idea on another forum: that this is some kind of protection from pirates. Like at 6th march while activating the bought copy you'll download some number of files containing additional endings/video etc.
Though it doesn't explain the leaked info of Space Edition.

That seems to be an awful lot of pointless work. Especially when you look at level 1.

[Chromes]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Chromes wrote...

There was an interesting idea on another forum: that this is some kind of protection from pirates. Like at 6th march while activating the bought copy you'll download some number of files containing additional endings/video etc.
Though it doesn't explain the leaked info of Space Edition.

That seems to be an awful lot of pointless work. Especially when you look at level 1.

Yep, but 'tis the last hope for the good endings, well for me...

[grimgim]

BobSmith101 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

I have to ask, but does anyone remember any of the mis-information and rage that accompanied Mass Effect 2's release. i know there was similar hysteria surrounding ME2's release and how the ending was going to suck and in fact half the rumours turned out to be false

I'm just curious if anyone knows what those rumours *were* back then, how far they missed the mark...

But the ending did suck. Or did anyone think the T-800 was wonderful?

That is subjective, don't you agree? While I wasn't amazed with the boss fight, I thought it was pretty cool the implication how Reapers increase their numbers.


On topic, what does it make so certain that there is any other endings besides the ones that were leaked?

Modifié par grimgim, 29 février 2012 - 07:50 .