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[Splinter Cell 108]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Its hard to say. I've read posts where people have claimed said person that has leaked the endings did a complete playthrough with all the sidequests done for maximum GAW and GR rating(I think those are the ratings everyone is using) and then I just read a post where someone claimed they were just in contact with someone from eurogamer and that the leaks are not true and that the endings that are being talked about are for people who didn't import ME2 saves.

Something to that effect is what I'm getting. Once again I think the wise option is to sit back and watch the show unfold. We are either going to get videos on youtube that proves the leaks to be true(not small clips but the entire thing with the multiple endings to put and end to all the speculating) or we wait till the 6th to all find out for ourselves.

Can you find that post for me?

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Sorry I dont know how to hotlink. ctrl=f to dheer. You should get quotebox that will have his orginal post. He has since edited his post.Once again lots of stuff flying around and hard to find the truth. I hink the best option is to wait and see...I know i'm sounding like broken record now.

I don't know if its me or not but that link is taking me to the BSN forums main page. 

[Black_Vanguard]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Its hard to say. I've read posts where people have claimed said person that has leaked the endings did a complete playthrough with all the sidequests done for maximum GAW and GR rating(I think those are the ratings everyone is using) and then I just read a post where someone claimed they were just in contact with someone from eurogamer and that the leaks are not true and that the endings that are being talked about are for people who didn't import ME2 saves.

Something to that effect is what I'm getting. Once again I think the wise option is to sit back and watch the show unfold. We are either going to get videos on youtube that proves the leaks to be true(not small clips but the entire thing with the multiple endings to put and end to all the speculating) or we wait till the 6th to all find out for ourselves.

Can you find that post for me?

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Sorry I dont know how to hotlink. ctrl=f to dheer. You should get quotebox that will have his orginal post. He has since edited his post.Once again lots of stuff flying around and hard to find the truth. I hink the best option is to wait and see...I know i'm sounding like broken record now.

Ok for whatever blasted reason I can't get to that thread by the link. Go to the thread through the spoiler forum. It should be named "So we can't get the ending we want afterall" or something to that extent. Go to page 177 and do the search for dheer.

Edit I screwed up epicly lol. Sorry. Search for davidghram if that doesn't work search for eurogamer. Sorry I seem to be off tonight 

[AlphaJarmel]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Sorry I dont know how to hotlink. ctrl=f to dheer. You should get quotebox that will have his orginal post. He has since edited his post.Once again lots of stuff flying around and hard to find the truth. I hink the best option is to wait and see...I know i'm sounding like broken record now.

Weirdly enough, that took me to the main index of the forums.

[Black_Vanguard]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Its hard to say. I've read posts where people have claimed said person that has leaked the endings did a complete playthrough with all the sidequests done for maximum GAW and GR rating(I think those are the ratings everyone is using) and then I just read a post where someone claimed they were just in contact with someone from eurogamer and that the leaks are not true and that the endings that are being talked about are for people who didn't import ME2 saves.

Something to that effect is what I'm getting. Once again I think the wise option is to sit back and watch the show unfold. We are either going to get videos on youtube that proves the leaks to be true(not small clips but the entire thing with the multiple endings to put and end to all the speculating) or we wait till the 6th to all find out for ourselves.

Can you find that post for me?

lol yea it happened to me. The thread i'm talking about sshould be at the top since allot of argueing is going on in it with all of the internet penis measuring contest going on inside of it. But go to that page and do the search and you will see what I seen.

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Sorry I dont know how to hotlink. ctrl=f to dheer. You should get quotebox that will have his orginal post. He has since edited his post.Once again lots of stuff flying around and hard to find the truth. I hink the best option is to wait and see...I know i'm sounding like broken record now.

I don't know if its me or not but that link is taking me to the BSN forums main page. 

It did that to me too lol. That why I made another/edit. Check in the spoiler forum. That thread is close to the top. Just do the search on that page and you should see what I had seen.

Modifié par Black_Vanguard, 01 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Whatever that guy dheer posted is blank. I'm guessing it got deleted.

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Its there, just scroll down and it'll appear.

[Black_Vanguard]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Whatever that guy dheer posted is blank. I'm guessing it got deleted.

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Its there, just scroll down and it'll appear.

Yea I screwed up. It was the wrong person. It was Davidgrham(God I hope I got that right) but do a search for eurogamer and you will see it.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Whatever that guy dheer posted is blank. I'm guessing it got deleted.

http://social.biowar...dex/9512916/177

Its there, just scroll down and it'll appear.

Yea I screwed up. It was the wrong person. It was Davidgrham(God I hope I got that right) but do a search for eurogamer and you will see it.

Found it, still who knows if its true or not. It makes sense. I wish there was more evidence of that claim though. We'll see on march 6. This is why BioWare should intervene but I guess that won't happen like USUAL. 

[Black_Vanguard]

Yea right now it all seems like speculation with video clips. I'd like to see the full scenes to really see what's going on and not take someones word or jump to conclusions(regardless of if you hate endings that are being talked about or you like them).

Once again time will tell. That exactly 5 days from now.

[HTTP 404]

some times I use the ability called "ignore" when it comes to leaks and such

crazy huh?

[sherban1988]

HTTP 404 wrote...

some times I use the ability called "ignore" when it comes to leaks and such

crazy huh?

This.

Ppl are getting ready to start a lynch mob over rumors, speculations and so called "leaks" about a video game they haven't yet played.

Personally, I'll use the ever less popular "wait and see" aproach. There has been  no official confirmation these endings are real. No official proof (as far as I am aware) other than what some dude said, and a leaked script from eons ago. The classic "Screenshot/Video or it didn't happen should apply here". Btw, if there is in fact hard solid proof, ignore everything I said and will say.

And even IF those endigs are real, seing them play out is a very different experience from reading them.

If I'd have known the ending to DA2 before hand, I prolly would've been pissed. "A war between mages and templars is started no matter what you do, your actions actually have little consequence, and all the friends you've made in the game leave you eventually" doesn't really sound that awesome. But I for one loved the game, ending and all. I know many here didn't, but the point I want to get across is wait and see how everything is executed before judging. I'm not saying you have to like the endings... but don't hate them before you've experineced them first hand.

And no matter what, I am confident ME3 will be an awesome game. It's not all about the destination, it's about the journey, and from what I've seen from official sources, the journey will be fantastic.

Modifié par sherban1988, 01 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[meteor0L]

i'm still puzzled over this whole nerdrage.

i really don't understand why many can't live with a "bad" ending, even if there are 7 bad endings, and the best is just a little bit better than the others.
i don't know, do you guys watch a movie, cry out in anger and rage, and punch the person sitting next to you in the face because you didn't like the ending?

this "they told us we could have our own story, now we are forced to fail" doesn't make any sense in my eyes. sometimes life forces you to fail, and if it does, the way you fail is "your story".

saying stuff like: omg they force us to fail, worst ending ever PREORDER CANCELED makes as much sense as saying: you know what? i know the titanic sinks at the end of the movie, i will NEVER watch this.

[Elite Midget]

Why must it be nerdrage? You're on a forum, you're a nerd too. Just call it rage, no reason to try and belittle your fellow posters due to a disagreement or plain ignorance.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

meteor0L wrote...

i'm still puzzled over this whole nerdrage.

i really don't understand why many can't live with a "bad" ending, even if there are 7 bad endings, and the best is just a little bit better than the others.
i don't know, do you guys watch a movie, cry out in anger and rage, and punch the person sitting next to you in the face because you didn't like the ending?

this "they told us we could have our own story, now we are forced to fail" doesn't make any sense in my eyes. sometimes life forces you to fail, and if it does, the way you fail is "your story".

saying stuff like: omg they force us to fail, worst ending ever PREORDER CANCELED makes as much sense as saying: you know what? i know the titanic sinks at the end of the movie, i will NEVER watch this.

No, you just don't want the movie again, or in the case you found out the movies ending beforehand, never watch it.

[john-in-france]

Being honest the real issue with the 6 'supposed' endings are the fact that they don't fit personal wishes for a happy ending.

As an ex-soldier, I have to say that in an all out war, such as the one with the Reapers, survival itself is a win. Walking hand in hand with your love interest into the sunset, no-one died, ...well that isn't very realistic in the ME3 scenario. I expect a more Virmire approach.

I personally always thought that Shepard would go out in a spectacular manner whilst ramming a Reaper capital ship/base with the Normandy rigged as a giant bomb.

Whilst one suggestion of the ending talks about a colony made from the 100 survivors of the Normandy, that is not realistic either. Early NASA, ESA and BIS suggestions based on science suggest that no colony with less than 1000 members would prove viable genetically, too much in-breeding.
Of course if the Normandy colony did survive it would be down to Liara and her childrens ability to randomise genetic combinations. It would eventually be an Asari colony.

Why don't we just wait and see? Maybe the endings do change according to imports from the whole ME chain. Maybe not...

[meteor0L]

john-in-france wrote...

Being honest the real issue with the 6 'supposed' endings are the fact that they don't fit personal wishes for a happy ending.

As an ex-soldier, I have to say that in an all out war, such as the one with the Reapers, survival itself is a win. Walking hand in hand with your love interest into the sunset, no-one died, ...well that isn't very realistic in the ME3 scenario.

exactly my thoughts. there is this somewhat "flat" saying "there are no winners in war" .
still everyone wants shepard to be a winner, and somehow next to noone can deal with the fact that bioware hasn't planned it that way.

humanity is on the edge of beeing whiped out completely.
they are fighting a race which is far ahead of them, and has wiped out races far more developed than the humans before.

what did you expect? shepard doing the "everyone calm down, your hero has arrived" thing, getting rid of the reapers by droping 1-2 nukes, living with his LI for the rest of his life, with garrus coming over to play with his kids every second day?

everything better than extinction is a win for humantiy, and it is more than any other race in the past cycles of "reaping" has achieved.
all the other races have been wiped out, so being forced to live without the mass relays is a step back for humanity, but far better then extinction.

[meteor0L]

Luc0s wrote...

meteor0L wrote...

everything better than extinction is a win for humantiy, and it is more than any other race in the past cycles of "reaping" has achieved. 
all the other races have been wiped out, so being forced to live without the mass relays is a step back for humanity, but far better then extinction.

I totally and completely disagree.

There are worse things than death. Yes, there are far worse things than death.


Worse than death is living a miserable life that you know is going to fail.

Worse than death is dying a very slow death in a galaxy that's totally FUBAR.


After the reapers are gone, the galaxy as we know it, is gone. The galaxy is completely FUBAR. It's one big mess and many many many people will live in agony and/or die a slow death. All of the sudden, extinction doesn't sound so bad anymore, does it?

first off all, i don't think everyone in the whole galaxy will be "dying a very slow death". if every mass relay is destroyed, humanity won't be able to communicate from planet to planet. will bring this a live in agony or slow death for "everyone"? i don't really think so.

just take a look at the history of humanity here on our planet. we had so many horrible wars, with countries being almost destroyed completely. did those ppl lived in agony and died a very slow death? some did. most stepped together and rebuild what they could.

i don't know why it should be any different just because the races are spread over many planets and have no communication.

edit : btw, if you think extinction is better than a slow and painfull rebuild( which is fine, everyone has is own opinion) you can choose the ending where humantiy gets wiped out.


but somehow i get the feeling that everyone wants humantiy to win against the greatest thread the universe ever encountered, without having to suffer. OR they think: humanity suffering is fine, but i can't take the fact that shepard has to suffer too. why not? he is a human like all the others

Modifié par meteor0L, 01 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Scandigeek]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I'm not going to be like quite a few on BSN and expect BioWare to have infinite variations to every whim of mine and other Mass Effect 3 players. If BioWare felt that the endings were the best...well, I can be unhappy if I want to be, but I'm not going to be the way certain people are about it.

I'm also not taking this all at face value until I see some proof. Hell, wouldn't they have a copy of the NDA or even the game case to show? The game disc? Anything at all? Can't take a camera picture of something that doesn't violate NDA (granted, photography of any in-game element may be prohibited)?

Does it really matter though? The game comes out in a week. We'll be seeing more from IGN today or tomorrow, footage on G4 tonight (?), hopefully a launch trailer within the window of this week...

I just think people need to make their own opinions based on tangible evidence, not just on another's words.

Agreed, I'm not taking this at face value either tell I see it for myself or it gets posted to Mass Effect Wiki as I'm playing.  

That said I'm actually ok with the endings as they look on paper.  I have no problem with Shepard giving his/her life or having to make some other sacrifice to save the galaxy, he/she wasn't going to life forever.  I actually like the idea of Joker and Edi together it's kind of like a modern day variation of pygalion

Modifié par Scandigeek, 01 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[Elite Midget]

meteor0L wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Being honest the real issue with the 6 'supposed' endings are the fact that they don't fit personal wishes for a happy ending.

As an ex-soldier, I have to say that in an all out war, such as the one with the Reapers, survival itself is a win. Walking hand in hand with your love interest into the sunset, no-one died, ...well that isn't very realistic in the ME3 scenario.

exactly my thoughts. there is this somewhat "flat" saying "there are no winners in war" .
still everyone wants shepard to be a winner, and somehow next to noone can deal with the fact that bioware hasn't planned it that way.

humanity is on the edge of beeing whiped out completely.
they are fighting a race which is far ahead of them, and has wiped out races far more developed than the humans before.

what did you expect? shepard doing the "everyone calm down, your hero has arrived" thing, getting rid of the reapers by droping 1-2 nukes, living with his LI for the rest of his life, with garrus coming over to play with his kids every second day?

everything better than extinction is a win for humantiy, and it is more than any other race in the past cycles of "reaping" has achieved.
all the other races have been wiped out, so being forced to live without the mass relays is a step back for humanity, but far better then extinction.

There are winners in war, they're the ones that write history and those that lost are usually irrelevant or forgotten compared to the victors. Ask the Romans if they won, they will tell you that they did and for many years they ruled most of the known world.

[meteor0L]

Elite Midget wrote...

meteor0L wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Being honest the real issue with the 6 'supposed' endings are the fact that they don't fit personal wishes for a happy ending.

As an ex-soldier, I have to say that in an all out war, such as the one with the Reapers, survival itself is a win. Walking hand in hand with your love interest into the sunset, no-one died, ...well that isn't very realistic in the ME3 scenario.

exactly my thoughts. there is this somewhat "flat" saying "there are no winners in war" .
still everyone wants shepard to be a winner, and somehow next to noone can deal with the fact that bioware hasn't planned it that way.

humanity is on the edge of beeing whiped out completely.
they are fighting a race which is far ahead of them, and has wiped out races far more developed than the humans before.

what did you expect? shepard doing the "everyone calm down, your hero has arrived" thing, getting rid of the reapers by droping 1-2 nukes, living with his LI for the rest of his life, with garrus coming over to play with his kids every second day?

everything better than extinction is a win for humantiy, and it is more than any other race in the past cycles of "reaping" has achieved.
all the other races have been wiped out, so being forced to live without the mass relays is a step back for humanity, but far better then extinction.

There are winners in war, they're the ones that write history and those that lost are usually irrelevant or forgotten compared to the victors. Ask the Romans if they won, they will tell you that they did and for many years they ruled most of the known world.

i think you get this saying wrong. surely there is a winning and a losing side in a war. this adresses the fact that the "winning" side had to go through huge amounts of suffering to achieve the win. just think about ww2. on the paper, the allies are the "winners" of this war. still millions are dead, and even more had to suffer. they won the war, but they lost millions of human beings. this saying adresses the fact that war is a horrible thing, and there is no "clean" war. the winner always has to bleed.

same goes for humanity vs reapers.

[CerberusSoldier]

well the endings are real and now we have confirmed the pc version of the game is on the net and it has been data mined.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

well the endings are real and now we have confirmed the pc version of the game is on the net and it has been data mined.

Really data mined, or just the videos?

I think data mined = know EVERYTHING about audio, cut content and such.

Just the videos is opening a folder.

[CerberusSoldier]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

well the endings are real and now we have confirmed the pc version of the game is on the net and it has been data mined.

Really data mined, or just the videos?

I think data mined = know EVERYTHING about audio, cut content and such.

Just the videos is opening a folder.

   


Ok maybe not that. But there are only 3 endings with slight varaitions to them . The SR 2 epilogue happens no matter what you do .

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Wish the Normandy could crash on Earth somehow.

[Scandigeek]

Gotta go with the op, I actually decided, against my better judgement to sift through the 20 some pages of this thread, and the only thing close to what Riou asked for is a pic Alpha posted that showed some pretty explosions that may confirm the "Destroy, Control, Merge" part of the endings, but it doesn't confirm anything else we've heard about these endings.

I gotta go with Riou here, I'm really not seeing anything that confirms these endings and probably wont until the 6th.

Oh and Riou, humans are not always rational or logical. 

Modifié par Scandigeek, 01 mars 2012 - 12:47 .