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[RiouHotaru]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...
Proof in 7+1 days

HA!  Yeah, that's the other way to prove it once for all.

[GodWood]

RiouHotaru wrote...
...Godwood, c'mon.  Don't turn into the next Saphra, or Smudboy, or Zulu.

According to these forums it's probably too late.

But ok. I'll play nice. It is perfectly logical to want proof and if you're skeptical of the people who have photos of the game, the guide and have been gradually revealing the story piece by piece, then really all you can do is sit on your hands and wait.

However, for your own well being it is probably for the best if you accept the possibility that what has revealed is true and to (if you're so inclined) expect the worst.

[loungeshep]

RiouHotaru wrote...

I'm disappointed really, that a lot of the posters here seem to taking the people giving out "leaks" at face value.  What happened to either demanding proof beyond the spoken word or waiting to draw your own conclusions.  We did this dance back with ME2 and no-one who tried spoiling the game then was remotely accurate.  So why all of a sudden are folks so willing to believe what anyone says, despite the bizarre contradictions?

People with the Space Edition are under an NDA, one of the guys who got one, name starts with an X, stated he can't legally give out any spoilers or get into serious trouble since the game isn't officially released yet.

The SA guy also started "leaking" back in November, claiming he had a copy of the game as well.  And at least one person trying to leak here got called by Chris and admitted that he made the whole thing up.  Someone else in a thread here claims to have the strategy guide already, which is also crap because there's no way anyone is shipping you a strategy guide before the game is even out (not to mention he won't show a picture of the strat guide to show authenticity.

In general, a lot of folks are "saying" things, without showing anything that counts as evidence or proof.  And no, using the script leak doesn't count because the script is not only months old, it's not verifiable and can't be checked against anything.

If the people spoiling the game were actually in possession of copies, why don't we see screenshots of the endings?  Obvious these people don't care about legal ramifications for their actions, so why not go the extra mile and give us verifiable proof?

I'll tell you why.  They can't.  So let's be reasonable, rational people and be skeptical of people's hearsay.  After all, we did this number back in ME2, and that didn't produce any meaningful spoilers at all, just people making things up as they went.  I see no reason to suddenly start believing now.

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I'd figured that, but all this leaked crap is fun to read, part of the experience in waiting for actual release day.


Besides we all know TIM is really Darth Unicron, Pony Destroyer of the Worlds and will combine with the Reapers and Shepard, Garrus, Liara, and Tali all form the Circle of Friendship and defeats TIM.


I am curious about one thing though. What did all those ME2 'leaks' say about the game?

[Arch1eviathan]

DiebytheSword wrote...

This is my attitude towards the new "leaked information". I'm going to wait and see.

That's exactly what I was going to say. The game is comeing out in about a week so I'm not surprised a lot of rumors are circulating around the game.

[Capeo]

Warhawk137 wrote...

Capeo, like I said in the other thread, any sufficiently thought-out fake spoiler would align with the script, because something that significantly contradicted the leaked script would be widely recognized as fake.

Doesn't mean this one isn't legit, just that if someone was to put some effort into faking spoilers to cause a stir, it would pretty much look exactly like this.

Fully agree.  That would mean though that the script was heavily changed when everything officially released so far matches it and that this guy who has been leaking things for months and has been correct is suddenly trolling, faking pics and a host of other things and a regular on this board is also completely lying about having the guide in hand.  I guess that's all possible but I find it unlikely is all.

[RiouHotaru]

GodWood wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
...Godwood, c'mon.  Don't turn into the next Saphra, or Smudboy, or Zulu.

According to these forums it's probably too late.

But ok. I'll play nice. It is perfectly logical to want proof and if you're skeptical of the people who have photos of the game, the guide and have been gradually revealing the story piece by piece, then really all you can do is sit on your hands and wait.

However, for your own well being it is probably for the best if you accept the possibility that what has revealed is true and to (if you're so inclined) expect the worst.

Pictures of the box aren't pictures of the game.  Shouldn't it be very interesting that for all the claims of what's in the plot, the people claiming to own a copy and telling us this won't provide videos of the gameplay itself?

[luzburg]

all the info thats floating aroun is probably not conclusive. maybe some one made it up from the info from the leaked script it seems that way. anyway i want shepard to surive and if any of this ist tru it is possible atleast acorting to this
http://pastebin.ca/2122325

anyway it dosent really explain what choises the mass relais are destroyed in

and if pepole hwo have played it leaks info about it why isnt there a ton of youtube videos :s

Modifié par luzburg, 28 février 2012 - 07:40 .

[loungeshep]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Even if that's true, if they're willing to risk legal action by telling us about this "bug", why not post a screenshot to prove it?

If they're space edition leakers, they may not have a capture card.

Then use a cellphone, or a camera.  There are plenty of other ways to take pictures that don't require specific hardware.  The reluctance to show physical evidence is most damning if you ask me.

Also, Somethingawful goons as a source of info is also damnig.

[dewayne31]

my take is this if it was fake. i think bioware would be on the forums in force to quelling said leaks. look what they klace or whatever hisname was.

[turian councilor Knockout]

The OP gets it right and i can't do other than agree.

[xtorma]

RiouHotaru wrote...

GodWood wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
...Godwood, c'mon.  Don't turn into the next Saphra, or Smudboy, or Zulu.

According to these forums it's probably too late.

But ok. I'll play nice. It is perfectly logical to want proof and if you're skeptical of the people who have photos of the game, the guide and have been gradually revealing the story piece by piece, then really all you can do is sit on your hands and wait.

However, for your own well being it is probably for the best if you accept the possibility that what has revealed is true and to (if you're so inclined) expect the worst.

Pictures of the box aren't pictures of the game.  Shouldn't it be very interesting that for all the claims of what's in the plot, the people claiming to own a copy and telling us this won't provide videos of the gameplay itself?

because if i were smart, i would superimpose a small number in every frame so i could identify video. That way any leaks would have to be word of mouth, and allow me deniabilty until you buy my game and find out for yourself.

[Yakko77]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

I remember watching a fair amount of PC live streaming prior to ME2 being released. Any of that out and about on the interweb yet?

Only copies of the game (Space Edition) are console copies.  And as of yet there's been no PC leak on any other sites.

I wonder if BW/EA are going out of their way to prevent PC early release to prevent early livestream.... unless you can do that anyways with a console with just a video camera?

[dbawddb]

Before release "Oh, its just a rumors and fake, the will be good ending for sure!"
After release "OMG mass effect is ruined for me, thats wrong with those endings, why no happy end"

Modifié par dbawddb, 28 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[Balancer]

dewayne31 wrote...

my take is this if it was fake. i think bioware would be on the forums in force to quelling said leaks. look what they klace or whatever hisname was.

nope, their hands are tied because if they confirm or deny it it could result in massive *cancelling pre-orders* for real. no we are left in dark to find it out ourself

[Balancer]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

I'm disappointed really, that a lot of the posters here seem to taking the people giving out "leaks" at face value.  What happened to either demanding proof beyond the spoken word or waiting to draw your own conclusions.  We did this dance back with ME2 and no-one who tried spoiling the game then was remotely accurate.  So why all of a sudden are folks so willing to believe what anyone says, despite the bizarre contradictions?

People with the Space Edition are under an NDA, one of the guys who got one, name starts with an X, stated he can't legally give out any spoilers or get into serious trouble since the game isn't officially released yet.

The SA guy also started "leaking" back in November, claiming he had a copy of the game as well.  And at least one person trying to leak here got called by Chris and admitted that he made the whole thing up.  Someone else in a thread here claims to have the strategy guide already, which is also crap because there's no way anyone is shipping you a strategy guide before the game is even out (not to mention he won't show a picture of the strat guide to show authenticity.

In general, a lot of folks are "saying" things, without showing anything that counts as evidence or proof.  And no, using the script leak doesn't count because the script is not only months old, it's not verifiable and can't be checked against anything.

If the people spoiling the game were actually in possession of copies, why don't we see screenshots of the endings?  Obvious these people don't care about legal ramifications for their actions, so why not go the extra mile and give us verifiable proof?

I'll tell you why.  They can't.  So let's be reasonable, rational people and be skeptical of people's hearsay.  After all, we did this number back in ME2, and that didn't produce any meaningful spoilers at all, just people making things up as they went.  I see no reason to suddenly start believing now.



BIG F*ING EDIT: A challenge out there to all you spoilers and leakers claiming to have a Space Edition copy?  If you're really gung-ho about letting people know what's in the game, make your claims irrefutable by making a video.  Doesn't matter how.  Cellphone, video-recorder, capture software, whatever.  Go all the way a prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that you're not just flapping your gums. 

I so agree with you, OP. Some people rather like to listen to their emotions than to sit down and think all of this over in a rational way. Way to go, drama queens.

yea, i know that i will enjoy mass effect 3 anyhow those drama queens migth miss one of the best games ever made

Modifié par balancer, 28 février 2012 - 07:51 .

[Nerevar-as]

This is disturbingly similar to the days before the launch of DA2. Lots of denial turned to anger back then.

[RiouHotaru]

Nerevar-as wrote...

This is disturbingly similar to the days before the launch of DA2. Lots of denial turned to anger back then.

Same thing happened during ME2 as well.  Guess what happened then?

I'll spoil it for you:  Nothing.

[daigakuinsei]

RiouHotaru wrote...

I'm disappointed really, that a lot of the posters here seem to taking the people giving out "leaks" at face value.  What happened to either demanding proof beyond the spoken word or waiting to draw your own conclusions.  We did this dance back with ME2 and no-one who tried spoiling the game then was remotely accurate.  So why all of a sudden are folks so willing to believe what anyone says, despite the bizarre contradictions?

People with the Space Edition are under an NDA, one of the guys who got one, name starts with an X, stated he can't legally give out any spoilers or get into serious trouble since the game isn't officially released yet.

The SA guy also started "leaking" back in November, claiming he had a copy of the game as well.  And at least one person trying to leak here got called by Chris and admitted that he made the whole thing up.  Someone else in a thread here claims to have the strategy guide already, which is also crap because there's no way anyone is shipping you a strategy guide before the game is even out (not to mention he won't show a picture of the strat guide to show authenticity.

In general, a lot of folks are "saying" things, without showing anything that counts as evidence or proof.  And no, using the script leak doesn't count because the script is not only months old, it's not verifiable and can't be checked against anything.

If the people spoiling the game were actually in possession of copies, why don't we see screenshots of the endings?  Obvious these people don't care about legal ramifications for their actions, so why not go the extra mile and give us verifiable proof?

I'll tell you why.  They can't.  So let's be reasonable, rational people and be skeptical of people's hearsay.  After all, we did this number back in ME2, and that didn't produce any meaningful spoilers at all, just people making things up as they went.  I see no reason to suddenly start believing now.



BIG F*ING EDIT: A challenge out there to all you spoilers and leakers claiming to have a Space Edition copy?  If you're really gung-ho about letting people know what's in the game, make your claims irrefutable by making a video.  Doesn't matter how.  Cellphone, video-recorder, capture software, whatever.  Go all the way a prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that you're not just flapping your gums. 

Agreed.  Everyone is being epically trolled.  Bet the Bioware devs are laughing right now.

[Balancer]

Nerevar-as wrote...

This is disturbingly similar to the days before the launch of DA2. Lots of denial turned to anger back then.

Not for me, i dont mind the endings i always thought it would be something like this. the thing is that you shouldnt trust blindly at this kind of leaks.

[Nerevar-as]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

This is disturbingly similar to the days before the launch of DA2. Lots of denial turned to anger back then.

Same thing happened during ME2 as well.  Guess what happened then?

I'll spoil it for you:  Nothing.

I read the forums back then. ME2 prelaunch wasn´t even close to this.

The sad thing is that for me this time they nailed gameplay. If the endings are true what on Earth made them think they were a good idea?

[Aimi]

dbawddb wrote...

Before release "Oh, its just a rumors and fake, the will be good ending for sure!"
After release "OMG mass effect is ruined for me, thats wrong with those endings, why no happy end"

Actually, there's a hell of a lot of the "after release" going on right now.

With that said, I honestly don't hate the alleged endings at all. I also liked DAII's ending.

[AkiKishi]

balancer wrote...
yea, i know that i will enjoy mass effect 3 anyhow those drama queens migth miss one of the best games ever made

fallacious arguement, copies of ME3 will not suddenly vanish. You lose nothing by waiting even less now you know how the game ends.

[dewayne31]

balancer wrote...

dewayne31 wrote...

my take is this if it was fake. i think bioware would be on the forums in force to quelling said leaks. look what they klace or whatever hisname was.

nope, their hands are tied because if they confirm or deny it it could result in massive *cancelling pre-orders* for real. no we are left in dark to find it out ourself

sorry i meqant say is i think they would banning trolls left and right. thjat what mean by quelling...but your right their hands are tied. what going be worst isthe backlash. i was here for the da3 backlash and i have feeling this one might be bigger