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[Elegana]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Elegana wrote...

That's it? 

First off, with the endings and flashbacks, the SA guy first says "Hackett" appears instead of Anderson. BUT the Spacer says "Anderson" appears instead of Hackett. SA guy then says "Yes. I was mistaken. It was Anderson". That's fishy.

And as for the confirmation, he said "Confirmed" didn't he? So Spacer guy says "Normandy crash lands on a moon" and then he says "Confirmed"? That's like you saying "Shepard gets a sex change" and someone who can claim to have the space edition or to be a booted dev or fired QA tester can simply say "He's right". I'm sorry, but that is not evidence. 

http://forums.someth...5#post401047249 

States Normandy crashlands.  Defers on everything else since it's been awhile.  I would pretty much say that's confirming. He also agreed with Spacer that Merge ending isn't best ending which was thought to be the case up until yesterday.

Again, he merely said "looks like Jurassic Park". That's not confirmed. Confirmed is physical evidence, not words someone can pull out of thin air. And anyone could agree with Spacer and SA that Merge ending isn't the best ending. 

[Obidex]

Space guys are subject to NDA, they would be getting perma sued for this

[CptBomBom00]

LOL, we asked for photos, word alone won't do.

[Elegana]

Obidex wrote...

Space guys are subject to NDA, they would be getting perma sued for this

Which I can argue that claiming NDA is an easy way to avoid being confronted about false information. Again, I can easily say "Hey, guys, I got a space copy!", photoshop a picture together, people can start asking questions and using the information provided by the SA guy/Booted Dev and other Spacers, I can answer their questions. Or I can simply say "NDA" and won't be confronted about it.

[AlphaJarmel]

Elegana wrote...

Again, he merely said "looks like Jurassic Park". That's not confirmed. Confirmed is physical evidence, not words someone can pull out of thin air. And anyone could agree with Spacer and SA that Merge ending isn't the best ending. 

I'm out.  We'll find out in a week but this is some class A denial.  Two separate guys who own copies are trolling together apparently which matches leaked documents and both have literally been proven right before.  To the point of contradicting the developers AND STILL being right.  These two separate sources are working in tandem so well that their information mismatches at certain non-vital points but overall is roughly the same.  Is it possible?  Yes.  Is it likely in the slightest and I mean slightest in the smallest possible terms?  No.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 29 février 2012 - 12:13 .

[RiouHotaru]

Seriously. The problem I have with Xiosite is his claim of NDA, but then he keeps fudging on it over and over again.

And there are the contradictions. Xiosite claims the only endings are Merge/Control/Destroy, with THREE variations on each ending. Meaning a whopping nine different outcomes. But we know there's six endings as confirmed by Mac Walters in an interview. And SA guy says the same thing as Xio.

So how do we explain the contradiction of information?

[405thRazgriz]

I don't believe Xio is a troll. If he is...

My God, he will go down in history as one of the trolling gods.

I'm still expecting Mass Depression 3. I didn't cancel my pre-order (N7 edition), but I'm listing it on ebay with an enormous reserve; if it gets close enough to the reserve I'd sell it. I'll put it up for a week, and figure I'll know by the listing's ending whether or not I should sell it or not.

Modifié par 405thRazgriz, 29 février 2012 - 12:15 .

[CptBomBom00]

it's freaking conspiracy or viral ad campaign for Mass Effect 3.

[DXLelouch15]

theres a whole organization hellbent on trolling the MLP fans yet you think 2 people cant work in tandem to troll us
meh if it turns out these endings are true im going with merge so Tali doesnt starve to death
if their false the trolls best pray no one finds where they live

[AlphaJarmel]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Seriously. The problem I have with Xiosite is his claim of NDA, but then he keeps fudging on it over and over again.

And there are the contradictions. Xiosite claims the only endings are Merge/Control/Destroy, with THREE variations on each ending. Meaning a whopping nine different outcomes. But we know there's six endings as confirmed by Mac Walters in an interview. And SA guy says the same thing as Xio.

So how do we explain the contradiction of information?

Very quickly, the ultimate Paragon ending is only possible with Destroy.  Other two there are only two endings.  So total of 7.  Two Merge, two control, and three destroy.  Now this weirdly enough matches with the guide stuff except the guide is wrong about it being NG+ locked but it might be impossible for nonimport people to do first time through.  Walters might have stated only six to keep the seventh a surprise.

[CptBomBom00]

The worst thing is like i've said before, we are basically assuming most of the stuff, and were kept in the dark, without matches.

[CptBomBom00]

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Why none of the Devs bothers to investigate this and then gives a vague but honest answer on this?

[RiouHotaru]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Seriously. The problem I have with Xiosite is his claim of NDA, but then he keeps fudging on it over and over again.

And there are the contradictions. Xiosite claims the only endings are Merge/Control/Destroy, with THREE variations on each ending. Meaning a whopping nine different outcomes. But we know there's six endings as confirmed by Mac Walters in an interview. And SA guy says the same thing as Xio.

So how do we explain the contradiction of information?

Very quickly, the ultimate Paragon ending is only possible with Destroy.  Other two there are only two endings.  So total of 7.  Two Merge, two control, and three destroy.  Now this weirdly enough matches with the guide stuff except the guide is wrong about it being NG+ locked but it might be impossible for nonimport people to do first time through.  Walters might have stated only six to keep the seventh a surprise.

"Ultimate Paragon" makes no sense though.  You're restricting an entire ending only to one particular alignment?

And this NG+ plus ending seems ridiculous.  Walters could've easily said seven endings and just left out the fact one of them was locked behind NG+

[Hyrist]

Why would they? You're talking about the ending of the game.

Play it and find out.

[Elegana]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

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Why none of the Devs bothers to investigate this and then gives a vague but honest answer on this?

Probably because they're tired of the speculation and seeing how it's less than a week away from the game's launch, they're just not going to deal with it.

[WizenSlinky0]

Elegana wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

Ahgrhrghgrghghhghghghgahrghrgahgrgahgrhagrhgargr

Why none of the Devs bothers to investigate this and then gives a vague but honest answer on this?

Probably because they're tired of the speculation and seeing how it's less than a week away from the game's launch, they're just not going to deal with it.

You could at least give both sides.

Either A.) It's wrong and not worth their time to answer, or B.) It's right and might affect sales.

[CptBomBom00]

Elegana wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

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Why none of the Devs bothers to investigate this and then gives a vague but honest answer on this?

Probably because they're tired of the speculation and seeing how it's less than a week away from the game's launch, they're just not going to deal with it.

Heh, I agree, the funny thing is that they neither denay or comfirm, all of this.

[Warhawk137]

Did some cursory investigation of the photo. No smoking guns there. If it's a shop it's a pretty good one, though something seems off about the discs... but, I did some measurements, and the relative sizes check out (using a ruler, some math, a 360 case I have, a disk, and the GIMP measurement tool, the ratio of disk to box size came out within 0.004, which is obviously well within the margin of error).

Like I said, the discs seem off, but I can't really prove anything one way or another.

[Sashimi_taco]

Wouldn't the SA guy and Xio be sort of proof that Xio could be lying and just taking stuff the SA guy said and saying them as well? And if Xio was giving away actual spoilers, why would the devs or bioware not be doing anything about it?

For reality shows and stuff, break of contract by telling people what happens is a penalty of a million dollars or more. For something like mass effect 3, wouldn't it be the same if not more?

Xio is posting in a forum where you have to give personal information, and have IP adresses stored. How is he able to do this without being found out? As for the picture he posted with his name next to the game, it was only the cover. I've seen empty boxes of ME3 at gamestop all over the place, also that picture could have been easily photoshopped. I want to see the actual disk.

[Sashimi_taco]

Warhawk137 wrote...

Did some cursory investigation of the photo. No smoking guns there. If it's a shop it's a pretty good one, though something seems off about the discs... but, I did some measurements, and the relative sizes check out (using a ruler, some math, a 360 case I have, a disk, and the GIMP measurement tool, the ratio of disk to box size came out within 0.004, which is obviously well within the margin of error).

Like I said, the discs seem off, but I can't really prove anything one way or another.

where do i find a picture of the disks?

[CptBomBom00]

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[CptBomBom00]

This looks like very professional Photoshop.

[MJF JD]

looks like an actual photo to me. OR super duper professional photoshop. Probably just a real photo.

[Warhawk137]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Warhawk137 wrote...

Did some cursory investigation of the photo. No smoking guns there. If it's a shop it's a pretty good one, though something seems off about the discs... but, I did some measurements, and the relative sizes check out (using a ruler, some math, a 360 case I have, a disk, and the GIMP measurement tool, the ratio of disk to box size came out within 0.004, which is obviously well within the margin of error).

Like I said, the discs seem off, but I can't really prove anything one way or another.

where do i find a picture of the disks?

Previous page.  I was just comparing the size of the discs in the photo to the size of the boxes - if it was a photoshop, there's the chance that the guy doing it would have eyballed it and gotten it wrong.

Still, gotta say I'm surprised at how extraordinarily close the ratios I found were, since my measurements were hardly all that precise.

Of course, considering the angle, it's possible the disks in the photo are a bit too big, but again, it's too close for me to say anything definitive.