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Fuzrum77 wrote...

It's all about the journey, not the destination. Yeah, that sounds great, but it's not true. Many time a crappy destination can ruin an otherwise wonderful journey:

Like with the X-men movies. You may all not agree with me, but I found X-men: The Last Stand to be so vile and insulting an ending that it has ruined the first 2 movies for me. When I walked out of the theater, I said to myself: Well, at least the first 2 were great. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch either of them since. Everytime I consider it, I cannot banish from my mind what happens in the end. (The Matrix works here too - still just my opinion though) And I am so worried this too will happen with my beloved Mass Effect series.

So, yes, a garbage destination -can- ruin a journey.

I so hope we're all overreacting (and flat out wrong), but the continued silence from Bioware is just eating away at me.


That's how I feel about the POTC movies.  At World's End left a bitter feeling in me, and I haven't watched them since.  And the main reason for that? 

The s**t ending to the romance.  Sorry, but seeing your loved one for only one day every 10 years doesn't sit well with me. 

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Double Post.

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I really can't wait for people who went dark and everyone else really to get and compete the game. I can't wait to hear all the whining on how a grit filled, dark, and adventurous trilogy doesn't have a Disney Pixar ending.

And keep on with the destination > journey stuff while you have only experienced 2/3's of the journey and have yet to get to the climax. It gets me every time.

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Disney Pixar ending?
We do not want a disney pixar ending.

Humanity is reduced to 2 million survivors in the whole galaxy, the reapers destroyed, some other races nearly whiped out and the council dead, but you can decide what happens to shepard and crew.
That whould be something i whould call a good ending, simply because you decide your own destiny in the first place.

Sure, what you do can have influence on others as well, but it always has some kind of influence on yourself, but if the spoilered endings are the only ones there is no influence on shepard or the crew, basicly the same thing for every player regardless of all choices, with some variations that are just as bad.

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Man on March 7th BSN is going to crumble.

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MissMaster wrote...

Man on March 7th BSN is going to crumble.


Indeed.



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My sincere apologies to Mac Walters and the rest of the team if this is all true; they will get some very irrational, if not undeserved, responses.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I asked ME3 lead writer Mac Walters if he'd like to say a little about the romances in Mass Effect 3 and why they are, who they are and so forth. Mac, being a cagey sort, was a little evasive as he and Casey don't want to reveal too much before fans experience it for themselves. Still, he was willing to talk about what the writers want you to expereience if you choose to persue a romance in Mass Effect 3, and why we'll not be revealing more about romances before launch.

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:devil:


Wow, looking back on it now. Unless they have some kind of master-plan behind these endings, Mac Walters is a bit of a sadist. He openly admits to wanting to drag us into this world through character interaction and romances. Why? Only to spit us out at the ending by smashing down the art hammer.
He's right, if I had of known how it would end ahead of time, I wouldn't have even bothered. HOWEVER, this totally ruins one of BioWare's most prominent features "replayability", sure on my first playthrough I wanted these romantic moments to be unforgettable as much as Walters did. But I still haven't seen what the Kaidan or Garrus romance is like in ME3 because, "what's the point?"
The philosophy he was going for was better tailored for movies. Not games.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I asked ME3 lead writer Mac Walters if he'd like to say a little about the romances in Mass Effect 3 and why they are, who they are and so forth. Mac, being a cagey sort, was a little evasive as he and Casey don't want to reveal too much before fans experience it for themselves. Still, he was willing to talk about what the writers want you to expereience if you choose to persue a romance in Mass Effect 3, and why we'll not be revealing more about romances before launch.

Read The Roadmap to Love and Happiness



:devil:


Wow, looking back on it now. Unless they have some kind of master-plan behind these endings, Mac Walters is a bit of a sadist. He openly admits to wanting to drag us into this world through character interaction and romances. Why? Only to spit us out at the ending by smashing down the art hammer.
He's right, if I had of known how it would end ahead of time, I wouldn't have even bothered. HOWEVER, this totally ruins one of BioWare's most prominent features "replayability", sure on my first playthrough I wanted these romantic moments to be unforgettable as much as Walters did. But I still haven't seen what the Kaidan or Garrus romance is like in ME3 because, "what's the point?"
The philosophy he was going for was better tailored for movies. Not games.


Its funny what you can find in these old threads (so many lies!)

I did not actually find many of the romances that memorable, liara by far had the most effort put into it

also I have a feeling the implied holocaust at the end of the game was intended, which follows the line of thinking walters is a sadist

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FlamingBoy wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I asked ME3 lead writer Mac Walters if he'd like to say a little about the romances in Mass Effect 3 and why they are, who they are and so forth. Mac, being a cagey sort, was a little evasive as he and Casey don't want to reveal too much before fans experience it for themselves. Still, he was willing to talk about what the writers want you to expereience if you choose to persue a romance in Mass Effect 3, and why we'll not be revealing more about romances before launch.

Read The Roadmap to Love and Happiness



:devil:


Wow, looking back on it now. Unless they have some kind of master-plan behind these endings, Mac Walters is a bit of a sadist. He openly admits to wanting to drag us into this world through character interaction and romances. Why? Only to spit us out at the ending by smashing down the art hammer.
He's right, if I had of known how it would end ahead of time, I wouldn't have even bothered. HOWEVER, this totally ruins one of BioWare's most prominent features "replayability", sure on my first playthrough I wanted these romantic moments to be unforgettable as much as Walters did. But I still haven't seen what the Kaidan or Garrus romance is like in ME3 because, "what's the point?"
The philosophy he was going for was better tailored for movies. Not games.


Its funny what you can find in these old threads (so many lies!)

I did not actually find many of the romances that memorable, liara by far had the most effort put into it

also I have a feeling the implied holocaust at the end of the game was intended, which follows the line of thinking walters is a sadist


The funniest part about that is that they even stated the end of game would lead to a dark age, then they went back on it saying "we never intended for it to be that way" lol BS.

Yes, I did Liara on my first playthrough, a pity indeed since now I wont ever know how the other romances fare unless it will become worth-it in the end.

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Super MAC derives sustenance from obliterating Covenant ships and franchises. This is not new.

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Arcian wrote...

Super MAC derives sustenance from obliterating Covenant ships and franchises. This is not new.


You crack me up every time Posted Image

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Arcian wrote...

Super MAC derives sustenance from obliterating Covenant ships and franchises. This is not new.


Well, I must say you've got a very interesting signature. ^_^

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Snypy wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Super MAC derives sustenance from obliterating Covenant ships and franchises. This is not new.


Well, I must say you've got a very interesting signature. ^_^

He's the pride and joy of the UNSC arsenal.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I asked ME3 lead writer Mac Walters if he'd like to say a little about the romances in Mass Effect 3 and why they are, who they are and so forth. Mac, being a cagey sort, was a little evasive as he and Casey don't want to reveal too much before fans experience it for themselves. Still, he was willing to talk about what the writers want you to expereience if you choose to persue a romance in Mass Effect 3, and why we'll not be revealing more about romances before launch.

Read The Roadmap to Love and Happiness



:devil:


Wow, looking back on it now. Unless they have some kind of master-plan behind these endings, Mac Walters is a bit of a sadist. He openly admits to wanting to drag us into this world through character interaction and romances. Why? Only to spit us out at the ending by smashing down the art hammer.
He's right, if I had of known how it would end ahead of time, I wouldn't have even bothered. HOWEVER, this totally ruins one of BioWare's most prominent features "replayability", sure on my first playthrough I wanted these romantic moments to be unforgettable as much as Walters did. But I still haven't seen what the Kaidan or Garrus romance is like in ME3 because, "what's the point?"
The philosophy he was going for was better tailored for movies. Not games.


Its funny what you can find in these old threads (so many lies!)

I did not actually find many of the romances that memorable, liara by far had the most effort put into it

also I have a feeling the implied holocaust at the end of the game was intended, which follows the line of thinking walters is a sadist


The funniest part about that is that they even stated the end of game would lead to a dark age, then they went back on it saying "we never intended for it to be that way" lol BS.

Yes, I did Liara on my first playthrough, a pity indeed since now I wont ever know how the other romances fare unless it will become worth-it in the end.


Yeah my trilogy-spanning romance with Ash is now especially bitter.

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Not amused, Mac.

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In before lock?

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Date is February, the game must have been almost done... so he knew what the relationships in the game were like when he wrote that. Hmmm.

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@Jade

Really? Your going to go back 7 months to bump a thread you hope will bait and attempt to annoy people? ...so sad... sad indeed. You might need to get out more instead of trolling back through 7 months worth of threads to try and find one you hope will annoy people.

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Nyoka wrote...

Date is February, the game must have been almost done... so he knew what the relationships in the game were like when he wrote that. Hmmm.


...and that they would all end in tears... :crying:

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iakus wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Date is February, the game must have been almost done... so he knew what the relationships in the game were like when he wrote that. Hmmm.


...and that they would all end in tears... :crying:


Yeah. :( As someone suggested, Mac Walters could really be a sadist.

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It's not really that. I meant things he says over there are just untrue. Like for example that the conversations could happen anywhere, when in fact the conversations have fixed locations and he had to know that when he wrote the post.

I can see glimpses of what he's saying, like that your choices affect the relationship: you don't go visit the VS at the hospital, they're cold to you afterwards. That's good. Not near to the extent the post describes, but I guess he had to hype up the game.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

@Jade

Really? Your going to go back 7 months to bump a thread you hope will bait and attempt to annoy people? ...so sad... sad indeed. You might need to get out more instead of trolling back through 7 months worth of threads to try and find one you hope will annoy people.


I'm sorry to say, but he's bringing it up because I linked to it in my signature to show some of the nasty things people have directed at Mac Walters (and I've read worse i.e. death threats). It's the whole reason I've kept the "Shepard deserves better fans signature".

It saddens me to see a fellow Aussie pour **** on a writer like this. Mac's really not a bad writer if you ask me. He's no Frank Herbert or Asimov, but it wouldn't be fair to expect him to be. I just hope the all the nasty attacks on him and Hudson haven't affected them too much.

This whole furor reminds me of the reaction radical Muslim's have had to that youtube clip, minus the riots and bombings. It's just as stupid and childish though.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

@Jade

Really? Your going to go back 7 months to bump a thread you hope will bait and attempt to annoy people? ...so sad... sad indeed. You might need to get out more instead of trolling back through 7 months worth of threads to try and find one you hope will annoy people.


I found it through someone's sig about why BioWare deserve better fans, some of the comments I can get behind. Some others I think are justifiable. I'd never seen the piece written by Mac Walters about the character interaction and found it interesting.

You intervening like this says more about you than it does about me.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

@Jade

Really? Your going to go back 7 months to bump a thread you hope will bait and attempt to annoy people? ...so sad... sad indeed. You might need to get out more instead of trolling back through 7 months worth of threads to try and find one you hope will annoy people.


I found it through someone's sig about why BioWare deserve better fans, some of the comments I can get behind. Some others I think are justifiable. I'd never seen the piece written by Mac Walters about the character interaction and found it interesting.

You intervening like this says more about you than it does about me.


Besides jade is awesome so stop being a hater lol ^_-