266 réponses à ce sujet

[Aslanasadi]

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

[Darth Malice113]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Making an epic journey is no excuse for crappy endings. It's true the journey is important, but let's not forget that your journey is dictated by your desired destination.

The "Roadmap to Love and Happiness" leads to a dead end. Literally

^^ This.

All roads lead to ruin. Guess they couldn't figure out  how to end it.

And usually when writers can't figure out how to end their series they either. 

(A)= Leave it intentialy ambigous. With copious amounts of WTF.

Or ( Do a massive kill off, eliminating their protagonists and antagonists in one lame swoop. Now also with copious amounts of WTF. Free of charge.

I'm so glad I put alot of time into this series.


So lets humor this notion " It's about the journey"  I'll give you an example.

  Lets say you are hitch-hiking ( I know it's a rather stupid and dangerous thing to do)  and someone picks you up.
You get into the car and begin your "journey" and you find out that the driver and you have many things in common. Such as tastes in music, movies, humor, foods and drink ect ect. You see many wonderous and crazy things on this trip. Like a man walking his dog while his while fully ablaze. Or a midget holding 96 balloons. You learn new things about the world and yourself. Then just when you get to your destination, your driver knocks you out.
You wake up tied to a chair. Your driver then proceeds to torture you for five days straight before finally murdering you.

Now, the journey wasn't half bad. But the destination is probally not very desirable.

Do you still believe " It's all about the journey" crap?

Modifié par Darth Malice113, 01 mars 2012 - 11:36 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

Lol darth, funny story, yet so true.

-Polite

[mopotter]

Johnnycide wrote...

Soon to be available, "The Destination" additional endings DLC for those who were unhappy with the stock endings.

I'd probably purchase more than one ending.  

[CerberusSoldier]

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

   



The end is so sick and disgusting it makes me want to vomit

[Wittand25]

One thing I am wondering about though is how could EA allow that endings ?
Their business plan is to sell DLC but who but a hardcore masochist would buy DLC and replay a game with such devastating endings ?

What I want to say is that I am fine with non-happy endings but in a game where the player has to put in a lot of time and work to achieve the end, having all off them shouting "F*** you" in his/her face does not seem like a clever idea.

[J4N3_M3]

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

Modifié par J4N3_M3, 01 mars 2012 - 12:17 .

[Darth Malice113]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

Your death is unavoidable. You can't choose not to die.

However the conlcusion in a work of fiction can be altered. They didn't have to go down this route, they chose to.

[J4N3_M3]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

Your death is unavoidable. You can't choose not to die.

However the conlcusion in a work of fiction can be altered. They didn't have to go down this route, they chose to.

Doesn't mean I won't enjoy playing the game. 

[Aslanasadi]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

That's true...But then again, my life is no SiFi RPG   

Modifié par Aslanasadi, 01 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[J4N3_M3]

Aslanasadi wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

That's true...But then again, my life is no SiFi RPG   

sure it's not. then again, the point of Mac's blog post was not to focus on destination only but enjoy the ride there. which basically goes for a lot of things, including life, meaning if we try this approach on ME3 then chances are better we'll enjoy the game than if we solely focused on the ending of the game. Of course, it's up to each individual what they choose to do. I for one chose to enjoy the ride.  

[Halo Quea]

It's a fact that many stories have started out just as fantastically as Mass Effect. It's ALSO a fact that many authors just couldn't figure out how to move things along and then draw them creatively to a close. This has been the case with several literary series that I've begun and completed.

It's really something when the biggest obstacle in the way of a great saga turns out to be the writer/author, but it happens. More often than both readers (because they're fans) and writers (because it's their work) would ever care to admit.

I can't tell you all how many times I've been at the mid-way point in some series only to ask, "what is this writer doing?!" He/she is shattering everything from the previous novels, taking it's relevance down to zero. Just in the effort to introduce some new characters or some new plot point.

Maybe writers today need to do this, because it really happens alot. But I just wish that more of them could remember WHY we fell in love with the FIRST story, and our first introductions to that story's characters and universe. When they introduce plot mechanisms that either reverse course or kill off everything that we were crazy about just to move forward............ it leaves many of us cold.

[Fast Jimmy]

I haven't seen any of the spoiler scripts or have any idea what this ending everyone keeps alluding to is (that's NOT an invitation to tell me, btw!) but it sounds like death is being addressed a lot.

My reaction is "Of course?"

You are going up against insurmountable odds, against a fleet of ancient beings who have scrubbed all sentient life off the face of the galaxy times upon counting. The goal is survival of ANYONE, not survival of everyone.

Then, throw in the fact that Bioware has said that this is final chapter of Shepherd's story, but they want to pursue other games in the Mass Effect universe... what about that message says "Shepherd is going to be just fine, (s)he'll just be hanging out, doing nothing but remaining invisible after being one of the most important beings in the history of history." I knew from the get-go that Shepherd and company wouldn't likely be surviving this trip.

Again, don't know the spoiler, and don't want to be corrected if that's NOT the spoiler, but its what I've assumed for a long time. You don't hear the devs coming out and saying "we planned this as a trilogy with the third game being the end of Shepherd's story" and assume its going to be rainbows and sunshine.

[Halo Quea]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I haven't seen any of the spoiler scripts or have any idea what this ending everyone keeps alluding to is (that's NOT an invitation to tell me, btw!) but it sounds like death is being addressed a lot.

My reaction is "Of course?"

You are going up against insurmountable odds, against a fleet of ancient beings who have scrubbed all sentient life off the face of the galaxy times upon counting. The goal is survival of ANYONE, not survival of everyone.

Then, throw in the fact that Bioware has said that this is final chapter of Shepherd's story, but they want to pursue other games in the Mass Effect universe... what about that message says "Shepherd is going to be just fine, (s)he'll just be hanging out, doing nothing but remaining invisible after being one of the most important beings in the history of history." I knew from the get-go that Shepherd and company wouldn't likely be surviving this trip.

Again, don't know the spoiler, and don't want to be corrected if that's NOT the spoiler, but its what I've assumed for a long time. You don't hear the devs coming out and saying "we planned this as a trilogy with the third game being the end of Shepherd's story" and assume its going to be rainbows and sunshine.

No, that's not our gripe at all.   And since you don't want to be spoiled, there's really no room to elaborate.  

[mopotter]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

I've heard this before.  For me, my life has no guarantees.  I can die on my way to work and that's just life.  I don't play video games to have my character die at the end of the game, unless she/he is 90 or 100 and someone is sitting with them telling the story of their life.  

I play video games because they are fun.  Having my character die -like Fall Out 3 prior to DLC, for me was not fun.  It was  extremely irritating.  Having 4 or 5 ending options, which BW is doing, and none of them giving me some hope for the future for Shepard and LI if there is one, (not all of my Shepards have LI), would not be fun and would affect future purchases.  

I'm sure they will get along just fine without my pre-order or future purchases, but they do need to know that while they may gain some players, they will also lose some by making all outcomes depressing. That's also part of life.  

[N172]

It says "The Roadmap to Love and Happiness", so there has to be "love and happiness" as possible destination, otherwise there is no "Roadmap to Love and Happiness" and its just a lie.

Modifié par N172, 01 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Johnnycide]

N172 wrote...

It says "The Roadmap to Love and Happiness", so there has to be "love and happiness" as possible destination, otherwise there is no "Roadmap to Love and Happiness" and its just a lie.

It is a lie, just like claims of the endings being original and not plagarized.

[Elegana]

"The Roadmap to Love and Happiness"

Road to = journey
Love and Happiness = Destination.

"It's about the journey - not the destination".

Then why mention a destination? The destination is equally important as the journey. The destination is the motivation to keep going on the journey. The destination is the reward of completing your journey. What do you gain if it's just the journey? Wasted time?

[Jade5233]

I understand that the journey is important. I am REALLY looking forward to that journey with Kaidan and my femShepard. I've enjoyed the journey with him so far--the good and the bad. But if my loyal femShep, after doing everything she can to help the Alliance and the galaxy, can't have a happy ending herself with the man she loves, it would ruin the entire series for me. No matter how good the rest of the story is. The ending IS important to me--the romance ending in particular. Perhaps even more so than the main storyline ending.

[Whatever42]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Doesn't mean I won't enjoy playing the game. 

And like life, ME3 won't get a replay from me, at least if the reports of the endings are literally and contextually accuate.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 01 mars 2012 - 04:40 .

[Geirahod]

Jade5233 wrote...

I understand that the journey is important. I am REALLY looking forward to that journey with Kaidan and my femShepard. I've enjoyed the journey with him so far--the good and the bad. But if my loyal femShep, after doing everything she can to help the Alliance and the galaxy, can't have a happy ending herself with the man she loves, it would ruin the entire series for me. No matter how good the rest of the story is. The ending IS important to me--the romance ending in particular. Perhaps even more so than the main storyline ending.

You and everyone else (including me) is doomed then, that's the same that I want...but there's no point on even play the game anymore...at least for me.

[N172]

Can someone tell me if it will be possible to modify the game, can we replace/erase bink-videos at least?

Modifié par N172, 01 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[Aslanasadi]

mopotter wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aslanasadi wrote...

The journey to a destination is important. But if reaching the destination ends in disappointment, then the whole thing gets a bitter taste and ruins the whole story.

my life will end in death. death doesn't ruin my life for me, it just ends it. I'm still inclined to make the best out of those couple of decades I'm given  

I've heard this before.  For me, my life has no guarantees.  I can die on my way to work and that's just life.  I don't play video games to have my character die at the end of the game, unless she/he is 90 or 100 and someone is sitting with them telling the story of their life.  

I play video games because they are fun.  Having my character die -like Fall Out 3 prior to DLC, for me was not fun.  It was  extremely irritating.  Having 4 or 5 ending options, which BW is doing, and none of them giving me some hope for the future for Shepard and LI if there is one, (not all of my Shepards have LI), would not be fun and would affect future purchases.  

I'm sure they will get along just fine without my pre-order or future purchases, but they do need to know that while they may gain some players, they will also lose some by making all outcomes depressing. That's also part of life.  

I agree a 100 %

[CrazyRah]

If the ending isn't satisfying then i'd say for me at least the journey isn't worth it and just a waste of my time

[Fuzrum77]

It's all about the journey, not the destination. Yeah, that sounds great, but it's not true. Many times a crappy destination can ruin an otherwise wonderful journey:

Like with the X-men movies. You may all not agree with me, but I found X-men: The Last Stand to be so vile and insulting an ending that it has ruined the first 2 movies for me. When I walked out of the theater, I said to myself: Well, at least the first 2 were great. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch either of them since. Everytime I consider it, I cannot banish from my mind what happens in the end. (The Matrix works here too - still just my opinion though) And I am so worried this too will happen with my beloved Mass Effect series.

So, yes, a garbage destination -can- ruin a journey.

I so hope we're all overreacting (and flat out wrong), but the continued silence from Bioware is just eating away at me.

Modifié par Fuzrum77, 01 mars 2012 - 06:38 .