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#26
IlluminaZer0

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Zhuinden wrote...I don't have a Carnifex, so I use a Predator.
Apparently, I usually don't even NEED the gun, except against Guardians and Atlases.
And then, I can just rush to the nearest ammo supply.

The weapon choice is pretty arbitrary so long as you have 200%. Carnifex/Katana are generally considered the best.

You don't wait for your ammo to zero out before using ammo crates. if you are somehow cornerered, charging a straggler and nova-cancelling to a place with better cover will keep you from getting flanked.

ncknck wrote...
Me1 soldiers and infiltrators had fitness.
Which was way worse. The great thing about nova cancel is that due to
that exploit Vanguards cant really brag about how great they are without
being accused of cheating. Which i find satisfying enough.

It is likely not a coincidence that immunity has never made a return. Bioware likely overcomensated with weakening Biotics in ME2 for similar reasons.

Modifié par IlluminaZer0, 29 février 2012 - 12:22 .


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Butthead11

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ncknck wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

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Me1 soldiers and infiltrators had fitness. Which was way worse. The great thing about nova cancel is that due to that exploit Vanguards cant really brag about how great they are without being accused of cheating. Which i find satisfying enough.


Can't tell if trolling or just stupid. 

#28
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IlluminaZer0 wrote...
It is likely not a coincidence that immunity has never made a return. Bioware likely overcomensated with weakening Biotics in ME2 for similar reasons.


yeah, i just hope they find the middle path someday.

#29
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Butthead11 wrote...

ncknck wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

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Me1 soldiers and infiltrators had fitness. Which was way worse. The great thing about nova cancel is that due to that exploit Vanguards cant really brag about how great they are without being accused of cheating. Which i find satisfying enough.


Can't tell if trolling or just stupid. 


Yeah, it's really difficult to tell who's the troll here.

Though there actually is a pretty decent feature that gives trolls away. They can't use full sentences and therefore rely on recurring gruntings most of the times.

#30
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ATLAS are actually extremely weak in melee range (which is kind of odd). On my Krogan soldier I can usually just go forehead to exoskeleton with an ATLAS with Rage up without breaking a sweat, which is kind of ridiculous considering there's no easy shield recharge involved.

Can't wait to see what a Krogan Vanguard would be able to do.

Modifié par mysticforce42, 29 février 2012 - 12:50 .


#31
IlluminaZer0

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mysticforce42 wrote...

ATLAS are actually extremely weak in melee range (which is kind of odd). On my Krogan soldier I can usually just go forehead to exoskeleton with an ATLAS with Rage up without breaking a sweat, which is kind of ridiculous considering there's no easy shield recharge involved.

Can't wait to see what a Krogan Vanguard would be able to do.

All they have to do to make Krogan Vanguard balanced is not give him charge. Just treat him as a ME1 Vanguard and
give him Barrier + Warp and/or Push. (Hi Wrex!)

It's really odd that there are no true Krogan Biotics. Even the Krogan Sentinel has no biotic abilities IIRC. (Then again, Human Sentinel lacks any true Engineer abilities...)

Modifié par IlluminaZer0, 29 février 2012 - 12:52 .


#32
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Citizen Q wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

_Martyr_ wrote...

Quick noob question: what's the best weapon for Vanguards? I'm actually running with Carnifex I OR Katana II, still below average gear, i know. But that's what i have :3

/discuss


Katana, and a lighter pistol/smg for backup. Vanguards get up close and personal, you want big bangs for the survivors, and you want those bangs to be quick. If you have the weapon and melee damage mods all the better really.


Incorrect.

You NEVER carry two weapons as a Vanguard. You want the most damage you can get with the least cooldown penalty. Carnifex is the best option IMO. High damage, good at short and long range, 200% cooldown bonus.

Two weapons = longer cooldowns = death


You can't call some one else's way of playing incorrect.  Ohh and I carry the Avenger and whatever the default pistol is and stay at 200% =P

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Citizen Q wrote...

Incorrect.

You NEVER carry two weapons as a Vanguard. You want the most damage you can get with the least cooldown penalty. Carnifex is the best option IMO. High damage, good at short and long range, 200% cooldown bonus.

Two weapons = longer cooldowns = death


Katana X/Scimitar X + Phalanx X gives you 186% cooldown bonus. If the extra 0,14 second cooldown on charge this causes are the reason you die, you probably shouldn't have charged in the first place.