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Haseeo wrote...

This whole thread should be in the spoilers section

Threads always start as (no spoilers) and then ... **** happens. Actually if you read (no spoilers) in a thread title it's the same as if it would be *** SPOILERS ***

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YES
LET'S SUPPORT SUBPAR ENDINGS
LET THE INDUSTRY MILK THE CONSUMERS SOME MORE
WOOT.

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AlexXIV wrote...

I don't know but maybe it would be an idea to make a poll with the options 'liked the endings', 'didn't like the endings' and 'didn't read the endings'. So we could see the actual numbers. I mean I can't tell if people complaining are just whiny or those who love the endings are some sort of emo/let the world burn kind of people.


http://social.biowar...09/polls/28853/

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I have not read the endings since I prefer to discover them after I play the game, but I can't help to be curious... are they 100% legit?


Thats kinda the problem with only a few having the say/have played the game. We can only choose to beleive, or not to beleive


The only point one can argue by now is that it's not likely that those who got to play the game early have already seen everything there is to see. There can be no doubt as to the validity of the data currently known to the spoilers group.


Also seems like a possibility that Bioware didnt include every possible ending on the space copies, since they knew people were going to go over ever bit of data on the disks

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Femlob wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

grimgim wrote...

I have not read the endings since I prefer to discover them after I play the game, but I can't help to be curious... are they 100% legit?


Thats kinda the problem with only a few having the say/have played the game. We can only choose to beleive, or not to beleive


The only point one can argue by now is that it's not likely that those who got to play the game early have already seen everything there is to see. There can be no doubt as to the validity of the data currently known to the spoilers group.



I agree mostly, but, ITs not like everything you ever heard someone tell you before ended up being completly true. The fourms are an odd place, when good news comes, its like everyone is reluctent to beleive it, and skeptical, now when bad news comes, everyone is quick to jump right on it and assume its true.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

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I'm not going to read the spoilers. I hope I'm not disappointed, I was expecting the Galaxy to be left in shambles after everything ends regardless of what you get or don't get. However I don't want everything to have been completely pointless. I hope that's not the case. 


It's not going to be pointless because you beat the Reapers. No more cycles, some species surely survive, etc. It may just not be a 'good' ending on a personal level for Shepard and friends.


That's better. One last question, in your opinion was it a good ending?

I didn't read the spoilers so I wouldn't know. I will probably hate it because secretly I am of the happy happy joy joy type. But at the same time a fan of heroic death even though if I would get a chance to avoid death I'd always pick it. Don't count on 'good'. It will probably just be 'could have been worse'. So no, no 'good' ending. Or there wouldn't be so much outrage tbh.

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What's all the hullabaloo about? Does Shepard die in every ending or something? Cause if that's the case, it's hardly surprising.

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byne wrote...

Femlob wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

grimgim wrote...

I have not read the endings since I prefer to discover them after I play the game, but I can't help to be curious... are they 100% legit?


Thats kinda the problem with only a few having the say/have played the game. We can only choose to beleive, or not to beleive


The only point one can argue by now is that it's not likely that those who got to play the game early have already seen everything there is to see. There can be no doubt as to the validity of the data currently known to the spoilers group.


Also seems like a possibility that Bioware didnt include every possible ending on the space copies, since they knew people were going to go over ever bit of data on the disks

God, i hope so.Image IPB

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 an ending like this would be perfect :wizard:

 

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greatgeek wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

I don't know but maybe it would be an idea to make a poll with the options 'liked the endings', 'didn't like the endings' and 'didn't read the endings'. So we could see the actual numbers. I mean I can't tell if people complaining are just whiny or those who love the endings are some sort of emo/let the world burn kind of people.


http://social.biowar...09/polls/28853/

N'ICE! Not the results, but the poll.

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AeonFrog wrote...

What's all the hullabaloo about? Does Shepard die in every ending or something? Cause if that's the case, it's hardly surprising.

Its what happens to the crew.

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AeonFrog wrote...

What's all the hullabaloo about? Does Shepard die in every ending or something? Cause if that's the case, it's hardly surprising.

Of what I heard no. Not in every. But probably the ones he/she doesn't die are even worse than those in which he/she dies.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

YES
LET'S SUPPORT SUBPAR ENDINGS
LET THE INDUSTRY MILK THE CONSUMERS SOME MORE
WOOT.


Wait, so just to put this in mathimatical terms,

An emotional ending, where I assume, the bad guys are gone, FOREVER, thats billions of years of lives saved, at a Relatievly minor cost.= A subpar ending thats stealing your money, That mind you the CONSUMERS are still willing giving them.

Wait, I think it can be simplefied more. 

You disagreeing with the ending to a single series  = A horrible greedy money stealing industry.

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IMO it doesn't have to be an everyone lives and smiles had by all type of ending to be a "good" ending. A good ending is one that wraps up storylines, leaves no loose ends and plotholes, and so on. For me, if it elicits an emotional response and doesn't just kill off people needlessly, I'm fine with it.

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Endings are part of a plot, and of a game. I wouldn't pay for endings. It would be rewarding failure.

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xSolclaim wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

YES
LET'S SUPPORT SUBPAR ENDINGS
LET THE INDUSTRY MILK THE CONSUMERS SOME MORE
WOOT.


Wait, so just to put this in mathimatical terms,

An emotional ending, where I assume, the bad guys are gone, FOREVER, thats billions of years of lives saved, at a Relatievly minor cost.= A subpar ending thats stealing your money, That mind you the CONSUMERS are still willing giving them.

Wait, I think it can be simplefied more. 

You disagreeing with the ending to a single series  = A horrible greedy money stealing industry.


They're being sarcastic. Saying that you're willing to pay for better written pieces of the story that should have been there tells the developer that it's fine to write sub standard stories because people will pay paragraph by paragraph in order to have a tailored ending. If the writing was better in this script, no one would think of paying for a better ending.

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Daywalker315 wrote...

IMO it doesn't have to be an everyone lives and smiles had by all type of ending to be a "good" ending. A good ending is one that wraps up storylines, leaves no loose ends and plotholes, and so on. For me, if it elicits an emotional response and doesn't just kill off people needlessly, I'm fine with it.

The problem I have with it that if I import saves and collect war assets and do what not in the game to get a good ending they I at least want something better than some dude who only plays ME3 and in action mode. I mean the point is, if choices matter, as Bioware said they would, then how can all endings be bad? I mean beating the reapers isn't the challenge of the game because you beat them in all the playthroughs no matter what you do or not do. Unless ofc you quit the game from frustration.

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"We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you
are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of
everything"  -
Sovereign

I havent read the endings but, well after hearing this, you dind't expect to simply send the Reapers to oblivion did you? :wizard:

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How many endings have been revealed? I read somewhere that people are panicking over three known endings. Not sure if that is legit, but if it is, there is cause for hope as Bioware already said there are 6 distinct endings.

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android654 wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

YES
LET'S SUPPORT SUBPAR ENDINGS
LET THE INDUSTRY MILK THE CONSUMERS SOME MORE
WOOT.


Wait, so just to put this in mathimatical terms,

An emotional ending, where I assume, the bad guys are gone, FOREVER, thats billions of years of lives saved, at a Relatievly minor cost.= A subpar ending thats stealing your money, That mind you the CONSUMERS are still willing giving them.

Wait, I think it can be simplefied more. 

You disagreeing with the ending to a single series  = A horrible greedy money stealing industry.


They're being sarcastic. Saying that you're willing to pay for better written pieces of the story that should have been there tells the developer that it's fine to write sub standard stories because people will pay paragraph by paragraph in order to have a tailored ending. If the writing was better in this script, no one would think of paying for a better ending.

Maybe they should sell different versions.

Mass Effect - bad writing 50 bucks
Mass Effect - mediocore writing 60 bucks
Mass Effect - good writing 70 bucks
Mass Effect - brilliant writing 80 bucks

DLC/CE etc cost extra ofc.

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android654 wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

YES
LET'S SUPPORT SUBPAR ENDINGS
LET THE INDUSTRY MILK THE CONSUMERS SOME MORE
WOOT.


Wait, so just to put this in mathimatical terms,

An emotional ending, where I assume, the bad guys are gone, FOREVER, thats billions of years of lives saved, at a Relatievly minor cost.= A subpar ending thats stealing your money, That mind you the CONSUMERS are still willing giving them.

Wait, I think it can be simplefied more. 

You disagreeing with the ending to a single series  = A horrible greedy money stealing industry.


They're being sarcastic. Saying that you're willing to pay for better written pieces of the story that should have been there tells the developer that it's fine to write sub standard stories because people will pay paragraph by paragraph in order to have a tailored ending. If the writing was better in this script, no one would think of paying for a better ending.


By the sounds of it most people want a happy ending, not just a better written one, which is all im trying to say, something being different or not what was expected dosent equate to bad quality. Besdies, i dont know about you guys, but if you've ever read the last page of a book, compellty out of context before reading the book, its going to seem bad/not make sence/ odd. Or at the very least, you cant appreceite it the same without being into the book, and read up to the part sucked into the book, or game while you experiance it. Reading something out of context really dosen't accomplish much besdies spoiling you, and giving you perhaps false impressions.

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jdunn1 wrote...

How many endings have been revealed? I read somewhere that people are panicking over three known endings. Not sure if that is legit, but if it is, there is cause for hope as Bioware already said there are 6 distinct endings.


I believe there are seven with only three bieng very different and the rest only have mild variables from those three.

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rastakore wrote...

"We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you
are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of
everything"  -
Sovereign

I havent read the endings but, well after hearing this, you dind't expect to simply send the Reapers to oblivion did you? :wizard:

Considerig there is no "Reapers win" ending their words are sorta hollow. No I didn't expect or hope to win easy. I just hope we don't get some frankenstein shocker emo thing like in DA2 with Hawke's mom.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

IMO it doesn't have to be an everyone lives and smiles had by all type of ending to be a "good" ending. A good ending is one that wraps up storylines, leaves no loose ends and plotholes, and so on. For me, if it elicits an emotional response and doesn't just kill off people needlessly, I'm fine with it.

The problem I have with it that if I import saves and collect war assets and do what not in the game to get a good ending they I at least want something better than some dude who only plays ME3 and in action mode. I mean the point is, if choices matter, as Bioware said they would, then how can all endings be bad? I mean beating the reapers isn't the challenge of the game because you beat them in all the playthroughs no matter what you do or not do. Unless ofc you quit the game from frustration.


Unless of course, And im taking a wild shot in the dark here, people who play without war assets actually do fail to beat the reapers. or manage to only delay them, or change things slightly like our Prothian freinds. I have always seen it about beating the reaper/ saving the future of civilizaton, not of sheps survival. 

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I only want to be able to replay the game over and over....

these endings might prevent me from doing so

a Bioware game I can not play more than once is a waste of time and money for me hence why I never bought DA2