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[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Good for you, but I want to be happy and rebuild stuff with the rest of the crew that also gave it their all. It's still not "sunshine and bunnies!" (yeah, since many ending-lovers love that phrase)

[Calhoun0]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

Sacrifice the relays and the Normandy to save all intelegent life from being killed every 50000 years? Sounds like a good endding to me. The relays are reaper tech so it makes sense they would be tied into beating them.

Fight:

You succeed, galactic civilization is screwed because all the relays are destroyed, or you fail, so galactic civilization is screwed because all life will be destroyed.

Surrender:

Galactic civilization is screwed because all life will be destroyed.

I don't think a "Surrender" option exists. I'm only pointing out galactic civilization would be screwed whether everyone surrendered or fought the Reapers and defeated them, no matter which ending you manage. This is ridiculous.

[DarxydeBluus]

It's basically Terminator 3. The lesson of the first two movies was, "There's no fate but what we make for ourselves." In 3 it became, "No matter what you do, you're screwed".

I also love the argument that the people who dislike the endings or want a happy ending want "bunnies, rainbows, and sunshine". I'm sure there might be some people who want that "perfect" ending but I think most of us want something just reasonably happy. Something that doesn't, at best, abandon you and your crew to a slow, painful death. I've expected loss, I've expected personal loss, I didn't expect a kick in the teeth.

[ArkkAngel007]

Are emo and bunny-lovers the new insults on BSN to replace blind and entitled?

[Clayless]

Right someone needs to find this link that shows the Normandy is on some random inhospitable planet. These new files I have mention nothing about it being stranded, but I have heard it's away from Shepard, but no where have I heard it's stranded alone.

Someone link me to this, otherwise you're all just bull****ting on hear-say.

[Geirahod]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

The Relays.

And even then, how is saving everything a bad thing? Like what is the point in fighting the reapers if you didn't care about saving everyone? If you couldn't care less about the galaxy then what is the point?

I'm fighting to save the galaxy, in the biggest war it has ever seen, and if the galaxy is saved then I'm happy.

Destroying the relays is bad, because we all saw in arrival what a relay can do to an  entire system if it's destroyed...

So tell me, what's the good thing by destroying the relays and in consecuence destroying an entire system??? TELL ME!!

You're not saving anyone....you're killing innocent people in the process....
Seriously sometimes I think that this kind of people doesn't even pay attention to the game....

[Patriota125]

DaftArbiter wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too
3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.
5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

What do you think would have happened? They were fighting against entities who have lived at least more than 37 millions of years. Did you actually thought they could beat the reapers?

Jesus, people here on this board are even more mentally challenged that I imagined.

[Geirahod]

Patriota125 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too
3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.
5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

What do you think would have happened? They were fighting against entities who have lived at least more than 37 millions of years. Did you actually thought they could beat the reapers?

Jesus, people here on this board are even more mentally challenged that I imagined.

"But I won't sacrifice the soul of our species to do it" -Shepard 

There's all the answer that you need...There must be a way to defeat them without doing much damage...

Modifié par Geirahod, 29 février 2012 - 04:42 .

[Tietj]

Patriota125 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too
3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.
5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

What do you think would have happened? They were fighting against entities who have lived at least more than 37 millions of years. Did you actually thought they could beat the reapers?

Jesus, people here on this board are even more mentally challenged that I imagined.

It's hilarious to me how most of the people defending the ending on here are complete jerks to the other posters.

[Geirahod]

Tietj wrote...

It's hilarious to me how most of the people defending the ending on here are complete jerks to the other posters.

They think they have the right to threat others badly just because they KNOW everything about Mass Effect.
Or maybe they are just fanboys that haven't played the previous games....

Either way...I've enough of that kind of people, I really hate those ones that are quick enough to censor any comment when they don't like it.

[Corvus Metus]

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
Look at any war.   Even the victors are often suffering.

2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too.
Wouldn't the destuction of the Mass Relays actually be a step towards self-determination, as you are no longer using the tools of a race of machine gods?

3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.

Do they die? Not that I know of.  So you still save them. 

5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
Again, without the Mass Relays, which are the tools of what amounts to a race of mechanical old gods, the races of the galaxy can evolve at their own pace.  Besides, if the relays don't actually explode into bits there's always a chance of them reactivating in future games.  (Mass Effect is a franchise, ME1-3 is Shepard's story.)

6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Go back to point one.

[Corvus Metus]

Tietj wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too
3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.
5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

What do you think would have happened? They were fighting against entities who have lived at least more than 37 millions of years. Did you actually thought they could beat the reapers?

Jesus, people here on this board are even more mentally challenged that I imagined.

It's hilarious to me how most of the people defending the ending on here are complete jerks to the other posters.

To be fair, both sides have their share of jerks.  This is BSN - which honestly, is likely one of the worst communities on the internet.

[Geirahod]

Corvus Metus wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
Look at any war.   Even the victors are often suffering.

2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too.
Wouldn't the destuction of the Mass Relays actually be a step towards self-determination, as you are no longer using the tools of a race of machine gods?

3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.

Do they die? Not that I know of.  So you still save them. 

5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
Again, without the Mass Relays, which are the tools of what amounts to a race of mechanical old gods, the races of the galaxy can evolve at their own pace.  Besides, if the relays don't actually explode into bits there's always a chance of them reactivating in future games.  (Mass Effect is a franchise, ME1-3 is Shepard's story.)

6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Go back to point one.

And you can't understand that this is a game and not the real life?

It's science fiction for christ sake! and it's a game based on choices, how can you have a "bad" ending if you have tried to do everything right?
How hard is that to understand? I would even tolerate if the relays are destroyed but Shepard remaining alive with the crew on Earth helping the survivors to restore what they lost...
That's the ending that I would like to see, I don't really think that all will be sunshine and bunnies....

[sangy]

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Modifié par sangy, 29 février 2012 - 06:39 .

[Tietj]

Corvus Metus wrote...
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

If the info is true, you're saying you're disappointed that Shepard only dies in six out of seven endings?  Any more and he would die in every one.

[raider_1001]

Well, it is either a Pyrrhic victory ending or a "there are no bacteria in Darkspace"-ish ending. Given that a single Reaper can cripple a race's entire military might and can actually brainwash people to boot, a huge fleet of them defeated by some previously unknown weakness that were exploited with no effort seems to be a way worse alternative.

We are at the end of the line here and BW spent way too much time in painting the Reaper as THE OFMG villain without explaining what it actually is (aside from building human Reaper as fun pastime)...so the only way to achieve the happy bunny ending is for the Reaper to fall in a spectacularly lame fashion...as in "The Force is made up of Midi-chlorian" style lame.

[bas_kon]

Corvus Metus wrote...

6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.[/i]
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

Lmao, you know shepard dies in all but one ending and in that one, he gets separated from the rest of the crew.
I'm not asking for a sugar sweet good ending myself, but at least, have your LI die with you (ala Matrix), since the best ending (living alone and most likely crippled while your LI is in some random planet banging god knows who) is the worst one to me,

Modifié par bas_kon, 29 février 2012 - 05:24 .

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Corvus Metus wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too
3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.
5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

What do you think would have happened? They were fighting against entities who have lived at least more than 37 millions of years. Did you actually thought they could beat the reapers?

Jesus, people here on this board are even more mentally challenged that I imagined.

It's hilarious to me how most of the people defending the ending on here are complete jerks to the other posters.

To be fair, both sides have their share of jerks.  This is BSN - which honestly, is likely one of the worst communities on the internet.

People say that about every forum. Trust me, this is nowhere near as bad as many places where I post.

[Corvus Metus]

Tietj wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

If the info is true, you're saying you're disappointed that Shepard only dies in six out of seven endings?  Any more and he would die in every one.

Perhaps I read the endings to fast (I will admit I only glanced over it) but I thought he SURVIVED most of them.  If not, I am a happy little camper myself,

[Tietj]

Corvus Metus wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

If the info is true, you're saying you're disappointed that Shepard only dies in six out of seven endings?  Any more and he would die in every one.

Perhaps I read the endings to fast (I will admit I only glanced over it) but I thought he SURVIVED most of them.  If not, I am a happy little camper myself,

Nope.  He dies in all but one.  Glad you're happy that other people get less of a choice.

[Capeo]

Corvus Metus wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

If the info is true, you're saying you're disappointed that Shepard only dies in six out of seven endings?  Any more and he would die in every one.

Perhaps I read the endings to fast (I will admit I only glanced over it) but I thought he SURVIVED most of them.  If not, I am a happy little camper myself,

He survives in both "control" endings in a way but is then forever part of the Citadel I believe so... dead really.  The "merge" ending has him, well, merge and disappear.  Only one is he free but he's still stuck away from his crew.

[ninjaNumber1]

Geirahod wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
Look at any war.   Even the victors are often suffering.

2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too.
Wouldn't the destuction of the Mass Relays actually be a step towards self-determination, as you are no longer using the tools of a race of machine gods?

3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.

Do they die? Not that I know of.  So you still save them. 

5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
Again, without the Mass Relays, which are the tools of what amounts to a race of mechanical old gods, the races of the galaxy can evolve at their own pace.  Besides, if the relays don't actually explode into bits there's always a chance of them reactivating in future games.  (Mass Effect is a franchise, ME1-3 is Shepard's story.)

6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Go back to point one.

And you can't understand that this is a game and not the real life?

It's science fiction for christ sake! and it's a game based on choices, how can you have a "bad" ending if you have tried to do everything right?
How hard is that to understand? I would even tolerate if the relays are destroyed but Shepard remaining alive with the crew on Earth helping the survivors to restore what they lost...
That's the ending that I would like to see, I don't really think that all will be sunshine and bunnies....

So when people say Shep is stranded away from the crew, is he on earth? or in a place that he cannot get back to earth?

[Geirahod]

ninjaNumber1 wrote...

Geirahod wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...

1. You will defeat the Reapers, but no matter what you do, the galaxy will be crippled.
Look at any war.   Even the victors are often suffering.

2. You will stop the invasion, but no matter what you do, the relays are toast, and the citadel is toast too.
Wouldn't the destuction of the Mass Relays actually be a step towards self-determination, as you are no longer using the tools of a race of machine gods?

3. You will save your LI's life, but only temporarily as they will be separated from Shep for all eternity
4. You will save your Squad's lives, but only temporarily as they will be separated from everything else for all eternity.

Do they die? Not that I know of.  So you still save them. 

5. You will be plunged into a galactic dark age, but there will be no option to rebuild the relays.
Again, without the Mass Relays, which are the tools of what amounts to a race of mechanical old gods, the races of the galaxy can evolve at their own pace.  Besides, if the relays don't actually explode into bits there's always a chance of them reactivating in future games.  (Mass Effect is a franchise, ME1-3 is Shepard's story.)

6. You will ask for an option of a happy ending, but there will never be one.
Personally, if the leaked endings are true, I'm disappointed more of them don't have Shepard dying.  Then again, I'm a sucker for a heroic sacrifice.

7. You will have done everything you could do, but ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Go back to point one.

And you can't understand that this is a game and not the real life?

It's science fiction for christ sake! and it's a game based on choices, how can you have a "bad" ending if you have tried to do everything right?
How hard is that to understand? I would even tolerate if the relays are destroyed but Shepard remaining alive with the crew on Earth helping the survivors to restore what they lost...
That's the ending that I would like to see, I don't really think that all will be sunshine and bunnies....

So when people say Shep is stranded away from the crew, is he on earth? or in a place that he cannot get back to earth?

It's unclear...and someone said that Shepard is on the Citadel...and the normandy is crashed in a planet somewhere....
If this is true...IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the_one_54321]

I don't get it.

Elrond: I give hope to men.
Aragorn: I keep none for myself.

Victory and salvation for others and the expense of everything you yourself may have had or enjoyed is the ultimate in heroics. Chuck Noris endings are generic and unimaginative. Even if this really is how the game ends, it could be pretty spectacular.

[the_one_54321]

Also, you don't save someone you love so that you can keep them. You save them because you love them. Everything else is irrelevant.