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#301
Sabresandiego

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cruc1al wrote...

I would give Mattock a 9.5. Slap on an extended mag and a piercing/damage mod, and it is excellent at anywhere from close to long range. So versatile, so high DPS, decent against armor - there are no faults in the weapon, the only potential fault is that of the user who can't click fast enough to achieve 450 RPM. My weapon of choice on a caster class (>180% CD), Turian Sentinel and Geth CQC infiltrator.


Thats a huge fault, thats clicking 7.5 times per second. Doing that consistantly for a 20-30 minute gold match is not easy, let alone good for your hand even if you can do it. I gave the gun a 6.5-8.5 variable rating for those who are crazy enough to click that fast for long periods of time, or who are using some kind of turbo button.

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...

I think the claymore has a tight enough spread with the accuracy mod alone.


Does the accuracy bonus from hunter mode actually do anything when you have a smart choke V? If it does I can't really notice it.

Also I'd love to see a video or something of effective usage of the scorpion. I can see it being effective on the salarian engineer but other that I really don't know....


Yes it is noticeable when shooting a Prime's head from a distance.  It is easier to land ALL 8 pellets with the accuracy bonus without being in close range.  I think some people here overestimate the spread of the Claymore.

Also I've been having good success with the Scorpion with the Batarian Soldier.  2 Hunters and a Pyro closing in, just use Ballistic Blades and while they're staggered spam the Scorpion.  The blast radius of the Scorpion is larger than most think and the mines detonating also stagger the enemy if shot at their feet.  After a good 3 or 4 shots, Ballistic Blades would have recharged again and just repeat the process until the enemy is dead, which at the most should be with the second Ballistic Blades.  CC at its finest.

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Have you considered adding Geth characters to the Revenant's "Use with" list? I've been trying that out, and the Hunter Mode bonuses dramatically improve the Revenant's performance.

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I feel as if the weapon balance is getting much better in this game. I would suggest a small buff for everything under a 7 (except for the mattock which is beast) and a small nerf for the perfect 10 weapons.

Characters/powers could still use quite a bit of work though.

Modifié par cuzIMgood, 19 avril 2012 - 04:30 .


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I use the Revenant X with my human soldier, nothing that comes into my field of fire stays alive for long. If you know how to use it properly it is the perfect AR.

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Needs update. Revenant X is so damn good now and that's usin a non-turian. Prolly a frag machine on them bird boys now.

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Sabresandiego

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cuzIMgood wrote...

I feel as if the weapon balance is getting much better in this game. I would suggest a small buff for everything under a 7 (except for the mattock which is beast) and a small nerf for the perfect 10 weapons.

Characters/powers could still use quite a bit of work though.


The weapon balance is getting significantly better, but I dont see which gun above it the revenant can outscore consistantly. Ill try it out again.

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Conundrum129

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I've used a Revenant since I got my first one, it's all about knowing how to best use the weapon with any class or race.

Modifié par Conundrum129, 19 avril 2012 - 11:37 .


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cuzIMgood wrote...

I feel as if the weapon balance is getting much better in this game. I would suggest a small buff for everything under a 7 (except for the mattock which is beast) and a small nerf for the perfect 10 weapons.

Characters/powers could still use quite a bit of work though.


Personally I think small incremental buffs are better than one gigantic buff.

Oh and it would be hilarious if they buffed the Revenant AGAIN.  Already received a 33% damage increase.

Modifié par Elecbender, 19 avril 2012 - 11:49 .


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I would also add that the Striker is an amazing weapon for an asari justicar. Slap some cryo ammo on it, ignore pull and max out the other abilities (making sure to get 30% assault rifle weight reduction), and it's a great weapon. Helps fill out the support role VERY nicely.

Also, out of curiosity, why would you mention the Falcon specifically for human vanguard when the Striker weighs the same (at the same level), but has a faster rate of fire (more stagger)?  

Modifié par Xyrm, 23 avril 2012 - 02:41 .


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Just wondering why is the GPR so high up on the list?

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Sabresandiego wrote...

UK Wildcat wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...

Berkilak wrote...

Mostly agreed. I would only rate the Avenger a bit higher, given it's effectiveness on power-reliant classes given its incredibly low weight.


I could see avenger being an 8 because of its weight, yes.


No reason to use an avenger over a pistol.  I rate it a -300000.

*Post dedicated to mushoops86anjyl


There is a reason actually, sometimes youd rather just hold the left mouse button down and spray at a target then have to click repeatedly. I personally prefer taking the avenger over pistols even though pistols are arguably more effective, just because for me assault rifles are more fun (although carnifex headshots are great).


N7 Eagle?

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DHKany wrote...

Just wondering why is the GPR so high up on the list?


Since multiplayer started, the GPR has been lightened, and been made harder hitting and to hold more ammo. It's now as light as a Carnifex, and almost as light as the SMGs.

Modifié par Kushana, 02 mai 2012 - 08:27 .


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Wait, why is the hurricane SMG best used by the human and geth infiltrators? I would have thought turians (esp. the soldier) would be the best for this.

Is it because they can use cloak to sneak up and run away?

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The Claymore should be a 10 at this point, especially on the PC version.

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The Phalanx is ranked lower than the Hornet and the GPR? U srs?