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[TheBlackBaron]

royceclemens wrote...
How does Mass Effect 3 end? GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED BY IMPOSSIBLE ODDS.

I'm shocked, truly. 

[epenthesis]

So, some of you deliberately read descriptions of the endings out of context, and are unhappy about them, and you're blaming...someone OTHER than your own fool selves?

Sorry, but you have no right to feel let down by any material when you sought to be exposed to it in a way that wasn't intended. If you weren't prepared to handle any answer other than the one you wanted, you shouldn't have clicked. The entitlement coming from these boards lately is just overwhelming.

[incinerator950]

R-types endings started being depressing when Delta Came out. Final had the pilot die, turned into a Bydo, or sent back in time which didn't work.

The Commander in R-Type Command got sent out on an expedition to go to the Bydo homeworld. By the end of the game, his Fleet was knocked out, contaminated, and all turned into the Bydo. When they woke up, they didn't even know they were turned into the Monsters they were sent to fight.

They fought their way back to Earth, while slowly coming to terms with what they were, and didn't finally realize what had happened to them until they returned to Earth. After the Final Boss fight (Super Dreadnaught), they roam around Earth for a short while before putting themselves in Self Exile. Before leaving, the Human Fleet practically shoots down all vessels except the Commander's Dreadnaught as they attempt to flee.

[casedawgz]

Red Dead is a poor comparison. The ME3 ending is closer to John Marston putting Jack and Abigail on the horse, going to meet his fate at the hands of Ross' men, and a quick cut to Jack and Abigail getting murdered by bandits in Thieves' Landing. In the real game, Marston's death means safety for the people closest to him.

[Tietj]

epenthesis wrote...

So, some of you deliberately read descriptions of the endings out of context, and are unhappy about them, and you're blaming...someone OTHER than your own fool selves?

Sorry, but you have no right to feel let down by any material when you sought to be exposed to it in a way that wasn't intended. If you weren't prepared to handle any answer other than the one you wanted, you shouldn't have clicked. The entitlement coming from these boards lately is just overwhelming.

Actually, no, I didn't deliberately read anything, I had a spoiler forced upon me in a non-spoiler thread. 

Modifié par Tietj, 29 février 2012 - 05:53 .

[WizenSlinky0]

Bitter endings make me depressed. If I've been immersed in the world and care about the characters it can leave me depressed for a good week.

I don't play games to get depressed.

[Eterna]

I don't really care if Shepard and the crew die, it's the Mass relays that have me up in arms. There destruction essentially spells the end of a universe I've come to adore.

[Unit-Alpha]

I didn't work for 3 games for my choices to mean nothing.

[MouseNo4]

They pretty much destroyed any replayability for me. Play it once, watch the galaxy be destroyed and move onto better games.

[MouseNo4]

RDR has a bad ending too? At least now i know not to go buy that now.

[JeffZero]

Eterna5 wrote...

I don't really care if Shepard and the crew die, it's the Mass relays that have me up in arms. There destruction essentially spells the end of a universe I've come to adore.

For the time being. The post-credits dialogue sequence between the old man and his grandson reads like scripture that the future is another story altogether.

[Ahms]

I just read the first few posts..... I'm gonna pretend that it was just trolling.

GODDAMNIT! Why the **** am I here in the spoiler forum?!

Modifié par Ahms, 29 février 2012 - 06:41 .

[Lightweight Nate]

 It's not the same. It would be more akin to having the cavalry ride in and slaughter all of your friends and family despite everything you did. There are so many choices in the Mass Effect trilogy, and yet it all boils down to those three godawful choices. Honestly, I'm just hoping that those were the only three that they had come up with at the time. If all that effort went into that crap, then I'm officially renouncing Bioware games.

[casedawgz]

MouseNo4 wrote...

RDR has a bad ending too? At least now i know not to go buy that now.

You should still buy it, its a bad ending in the best possible way. Also, in post-credit play you can exact revenge on the man who orchestrated your downfall. 

[Xayoz]

The Last Guardian wrote...

I know some of the leaked endings have Shepard dying, leaving everything on a very bitter note. But from my expereiences, games with bitter/sad endings usually leave more of an impact (for me at least). A recent example of this is with Red Dead Redemption. The ending with Marston dying to protect his family left a very strong emotional impact for me that gave me a very strong connection with the game...

I just think that if Bioware can make it epic, profound, intense, and emotional then I have no doubt it could be as strong, if not stronger than John Marstons death scene.

I absolutely agree.

Honestly tho, I would have ended the series with Reapers winning and exterminating all sentient races with maybe a small pocket of humans surviving somewhere.
The way this story was set up, any sort of real victory seems a bit out of place.

Modifié par Xayoz, 29 février 2012 - 06:52 .

[Ahms]

So all of that bull**** about the choices mattering was just a very elaborate and genius hook to get people to buy three games? And then to top it off, they kill off the protagonist? Here, let me turn the cheek for you to, Bioware.

There should have been multiple endings. A Shepard et al death ending, a reaper win ending, a reaper extinction ending, and a mystery ending where the player is left wondering, "......could THIS be the canonical ending, meaning that there's MORE?" That would have been absolute brilliance on Bioware's part.

Of course, for every one person who thinks that something is brilliant, a million more think it's a joke.

Modifié par Ahms, 29 février 2012 - 06:55 .

[RolandX9]

The problem isn't the existence of a "bad" ending. The problem for most who object, IMHO, is the lack of anything even resembling a somewhat good ending. Not that we know this for certain yet, but that's the issue and I get that entirely. For me, the real problem is the funneling to a forced ending regardless of prior decisions-- again, if the spoilers are correct. Personally, I'm not going to worry about it until I've seen the endings for myself.

[Elios]

i have to say this but
Bad ends only work if you include at LEST one good end
if Bioware didnt do that they really suck at making games all stick and no carrot does not make me want to replay a game or by more of there games

[Tietj]

Elios wrote...

i have to say this but
Bad ends only work if you include at LEST one good end
if Bioware didnt do that they really suck at making games all stick and no carrot does not make me want to replay a game or by more of there games

I actually don't agree, in general, with the idea that bad endings only work when there is an alternative.  But in the specific case of Mass Effect and other games based on choices, I would say that yes, there should be at least one ending where things work out.

[elessarz]

My gripe with the supposed bad endings is that, from what little I know about them, they appear to have no place in Mass Effect. Consider this: Mass Effect is a space opera in the vein of Star Wars with just enough hard scifi in it to make it sound as though it all makes sense. The entire theme of the series is based around golden age scifi optimism, with humanity spearheading into the galaxy, and an apparently predestined hero overcoming all odds, being resurrected through a miracle born of hard work and human ingenuity, to ally himself with alien species previously thought unapproachable, only to succumb to a type of ending symptomatic of Stephen King more than anything else.

Consider this: Star Wars had a happy ending, but it was also bittersweet. The good guys won, but something was lost., and most importantly, Luke & Co. did not get stranded with the ewoks to live the rest of their lives in incest and canibalism. Just sayin'.

[Elios]

Tietj wrote...

Elios wrote...

i have to say this but
Bad ends only work if you include at LEST one good end
if Bioware didnt do that they really suck at making games all stick and no carrot does not make me want to replay a game or by more of there games

I actually don't agree, in general, with the idea that bad endings only work when there is an alternative.  But in the specific case of Mass Effect and other games based on choices, I would say that yes, there should be at least one ending where things work out.

for a book or a movie sure a bad end is fine but if your going to give me the elusion of choice then never give me the good end f your game ill go play some thing else

[GodWood]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Depressing endings are not bad.

ONLY depressing endings, when told beforehand that the series was based heavily on choice & consequence, is bad.

The endings are a culmination of choices and the consequences that follow.

Just because Shepard doesn't get a personal "happy ever after" that doesn't mean the choices/consequences and all the different endings are nullified.

Modifié par GodWood, 29 février 2012 - 07:21 .

[Tazzmission]

Eterna5 wrote...

The Problem is that not just Shepard dies. Your whole crew dies along with you and the Mass Effect universe is pretty much destroyed with the mass Relays.

um dude you realize there just killing shepards trilogy right?



i hope you realize more games are coming as spin offs ( what ever that means timeline wise)

[hotshot823]

Without getting to far off topic, I simply feel that a lot of people are forgetting that writing is an artistic medium and that the first priority is making sure that the writer is happy with their end product. Sure it is important to consider the opinions of the fans but ultimately they are not obligated to follow through with them, regardless of how many people support a particular idea.

The problem is that people feel they have a deserved entitlement to get the outcome they want simply because they have invested lots of time or money or just on the sheer principle of having a choice for everything. Frankly it doesn't work that way, this is not like a cash investment where you can demand to get results that please your every desire. However it doesn't mean you can't express your displeasure, but doing so in a manor that insults the writers or demands that they make changes to their work to get the outcome you want is just degrading and selfish. With that said I am looking forward to seeing how the endings play out but I do see why some people do feel cheated. Ultimately that is not our call and I respect that because if I were in bioware's shoes I would not want to give up what I enjoy about the story I created just to appease others. We are all experiencing a universe of bioware's creation and although we may wish for certain choices or outcomes it is not our decision as to whether or not they are included. If you want that type of control then write or make up your own story, whether fanfic or otherwise because at the end of the day, real life or not you don't always get what you want no matter how much you feel it may have been "deserved".

I am well aware that I may as well be beating my head against a wall right now but at least I can say that I tried to convey some common sense before this entire forum goes to hell (at least it will be fun to watch)

Modifié par hotshot823, 29 février 2012 - 07:30 .

[Elios]

elessarz wrote...

My gripe with the supposed bad endings is that, from what little I know about them, they appear to have no place in Mass Effect. Consider this: Mass Effect is a space opera in the vein of Star Wars with just enough hard scifi in it to make it sound as though it all makes sense. The entire theme of the series is based around golden age scifi optimism, with humanity spearheading into the galaxy, and an apparently predestined hero overcoming all odds, being resurrected through a miracle born of hard work and human ingenuity, to ally himself with alien species previously thought unapproachable, only to succumb to a type of ending symptomatic of Stephen King more than anything else.

Consider this: Star Wars had a happy ending, but it was also bittersweet. The good guys won, but something was lost., and most importantly, Luke & Co. did not get stranded with the ewoks to live the rest of their lives in incest and canibalism. Just sayin'.

+1
i do not mind a downer ending if at lest the rest of the Galaxy gets saved even if it means thowing earth under the bus to do it
hell that would be VERY cool ending
Mass relays all are saved but the Sol relay Earth gets pwned but all the rest of the Galaxy chalks up a win id be ok with that

Modifié par Elios, 29 février 2012 - 07:22 .