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[tootoughtoremember]

So I'm starting my first Commander Shepard in ME1 with the intention of playing through the game at least twice before moving on to ME2, and I've got a few questions:

1.  I'm leaning towards Soldier or Infiltrator, with Commando or Operative specializations, but I keep hearing about people trying different classes/specs.  My question is, when you choose your class for a particular Shepard, are you locked to that class and/or spec for your second playthrough, or are you able to change your class like you would with a new Shepard?  What about when you import to ME2, are you locked to your final playthrough's (or original) class choice or are you able to reselect your class at that point?

2.  My understanding is that you are capped at level 50 on your first playthrough, but on your second it is possible to reach lvl 60.  Is this because you start at lvl 50 on your 2nd playthrough or do you start at lvl 1 again and are able to reach lvl 60 because of bonus xp?

3.  I get that you can earn Paragon and Renegade points or rep independently of each other, but do these points carry forward into additional playthroughs?  Is it possible to max both?

4.  Similarly, do charm and intimidate stats carry forward into additional playthroughs?  Is it really worth never putting points into charm or intimidate as you can receive them as bonuses from Paragon/Renegade rep milestones and by becoming a Spectre?  It seems like having points in at least one or the other early on would useful for gaining rep faster.

5.  Does each playthrough's story operate independently from each other?  If all my choices are Paragon on my first playthrough, and all my choices are Renegade on my second, will the story's outcome be only related to
the Renegade decisions I made on that playthrough, or are my Paragon choices from my first playthrough considered?

Thanks in advance for reading all that.

Modifié par tootoughtoremember, 29 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[capn233]

1. If you import your first run to the second (New Game +) then the points you spent in the first playthrough are exactly the same to start the second. If you create a new character, then it is a brand new character. For ME2 the talents are completely different. If you reach Level 60 and import you get the highest starting bonus, which is starting at Level 5 I think it is. I think Level 50 is the first rank where you get a starting rank bonus in ME2.

2. Basically you are capped at 50 until you beat the game once. Essentially you "unlock" higher levels after beating it once. Without DLC, I was able to reach high 50's with first playthroughs of subsequent characters. If you import the character from your first game you start at the same level you were at when you beat it the last time, with the same point investments. I don't recall if you can hit 60 in the very first 2 runs because of the 50 cap on the first. I actually had to do it 4 times to get to 60 with my first character... that was because I didn't realize the Mako only gives you 1/3 XP for kills until in my 2nd. I got to 59 on my 3rd and that sucked.  I also left some points on the table by not doing all the sidequests and other random things (like unlocking every crate, locker, etc) the first time through (I don't think I even hit 50 on that one).

3. Yes. You can accumulate points in Charm and Intimidate via Paragon and Renegade awards. Plus you get a few during a specific event in the game. It goes slowly though, and if you do it this way there will be many charm / intimidate options that will be unavailable your first time through (and perhaps the second as well). It is possible to max both either with investing in them both, playing enough runs through with the same character (slow) or using something like the Loriq Quin bug to sploit them up to max.

4. Charm and Intimidate carry through, but the Paragon / Renegade meter does not, to my recollection. See above. This is in opposition to how the second game works.

5. Each story is independent. That said, your background will remain the same as you chose when you created the character originally. This has a minor affect on some dialogue and some side quests. Otherwise each run is completely independent from the others story wise.

Modifié par capn233, 29 février 2012 - 07:14 .

[tootoughtoremember]

Thanks for the detailed reply.

It sounds like I'll have several Shepards to test out a couple classes/specs. And if I end up liking multiple classes, I doubt I'll be taking one of them through the game three or four times to get to 60. And seems like I should put points into charm and intimidate if I'm playing different classes each time. I guess I'll just have be real careful with my talent points.

[capn233]

You definitely don't have to do it 4 times.  Just make sure you don't kill enemies with the Mako.  You can weaken them, but exit the vehicle to finish them off.  Also make sure you do as many side quests as possible.   Like I said I just jumped into the game and never knew anything about it. Didn't read anything online about it until I had played it 3 times through.

Another thing I didn't mention is that speed at leveling up is dependent on the dificulty.  Basically because you get more higher level enemies the higher you set it.  Veteran is the highest difficulty you can start a brand new game.
Completing the game the first time on any difficulty unlocks Hardcore.  If you complete the game on Hardocre without changing the difficulty it will unlock Insanity.  Insanity is a pain with a new character anyway so you won't be missing out

I love ME1 and ME2 so I played through them many times. You get addicted...

Oh and if you want to get all the achievements then that is a little more complicated.

Modifié par capn233, 29 février 2012 - 08:36 .

[Arkalezth]

If importing a character to ME2, you can change your class if you want. So you can import a ME1 soldier and play him as an engineer in ME2.

I don't recommend going for level 60 in ME1. Reaching 50 isn't hard, but going from 50 to 60 requires a lot of time (probably other two playthroughs) for little benefit. If your imported character is level 49 or lower, the starting level in ME2 will be 3. Level 4 for a 50-59 character, and 5 for a 60 one.

You can reach max level without much difficulty in ME2 anyway, so there's not much difference. A level 60 import also get a bit more money and resources, but definitely not worth the time investment. So my suggestion is doing a single playthrough per character in ME1, you may be able to reach level 50, but I wouldn't bother past that point.

You may want to take a look at this: http://social.biowar...1/index/5628294

[ryoldschool]

^ this is the way to go. The game in ME1 is very interesting, but I prefer the combat in ME2 to ME1 so working to get a level 60 to import was not worth my time. Its a good thing you have not played ME2 first because that is what I did and the combat in ME1 seemed horrible to me, lol.

I used the builds in that link above to get three different builds through me1 to 50 in one playthrough so its worth a look.

[tootoughtoremember]

I was planning on just playing the game on normal difficulty for my first playthrough. Should I be able to get to level 50 on normal if I'm pretty thorough with sidequests/exploration?

And speaking of achievements, are all the bonuses awarded for achievements applied game-wide or only to the character that earned them?

Thanks for the single playthrough builds link, I definitely plan on using it.

[RedCaesar97]

Experience is earned the same regardless of difficulty. You should be able to get to level 50 on your first playthrough if you perform every sidequest, even if you stay in the Mako for the intended Mako portions of the game. (As mentioned earlier, you earn less XP for killing with the Mako than if you kill on foot).

All achievement bonuses are applied game-wide.

Since it is your first time through the game, no bonus powers are unlocked. So for any points you would put towards a bonus power, you can redistribute those points to your native abilities.

[capn233]

I was under the impression that the higher difficulty settings spawned more elite enemies on certain missions so you ended up gaining a bit more XP even though kills award the same XP for the same unit regardless of difficulty.

Oh well, if that is wrong then so be it.

[ryoldschool]

^ I disliked the combat in ME1 I only played on casual anyway, so there is still enough experience to get to 50 in one playthrough. The story is great however.

[capn233]

I only played the game 3 times below insanity and that was too long ago.  So my recollection could be off, but I thought there were more elites...  Plus I read what I posted somewhere before.  That's what I get for listening to the internets.

Modifié par capn233, 01 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[Arkalezth]

Nowadays I play on casual too, but I used to play on insanity and I'm pretty sure there weren't more elites, just immunity everywhere, that can make a cockroach look like a boss.

Anyway, I replayed on casual recently and got to level 50 (it was a reinstall so no extra xp from achievements, nor levels 51-60).

[tootoughtoremember]

Thanks for all the replies.

I've got all my squad members now, got two of them interested in me, picked up Garrus and Wrex's personal missions, and returned to the Citadel to finish most of the assignments there.

I was wondering though if ignoring the main story and completing more of these assignments has any effect on the story? I read that if you leave Liara trapped and pick her up much later in the game, she thinks you're an hallucination. Does anything like that happen in the Saren storyline if you clear out most of your journal before pursuing him?

[Arkalezth]

Heh, yes, that's a funny moment I didn't remember, worth seeing if you play more than once or don't mind recruiting Liara late.

But no, order doesn't make a difference, there may be more of those dialogues, but nothing important. The only thing worth mentioning is that you won't be able to return to the Citadel once you reach a certain point in the story. That point comes pretty late, but better to do the Citadel missions before then, as some will require several visits.

[mcsupersport]

Also to mention, some sidequests open up AFTER you do Feros and Noveria. So doing some main missions and then looking for more quests is a good idea.