Nothing wrong with the ending
#1
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:00
**** U EVERYONE DIES THATS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE.
#2
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:02
#3
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:02
But when you've invested dozens, possibly hundreds of hours into a series, to have EVERY single ending go "and then the galaxy was ****ed herp derp" is a kick in the balls.
#4
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:03
If the game had one fixed ending like RDR then that's completely different.
#5
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:03
Paul Rodney wrote...
Im sure you'd all love your little fairy tale happy fken rainbow hippie bull**** endings where Shepard marries a purple alien and dances around the normandy like a ****got and they all live happily ever after
**** U EVERYONE DIES THATS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE.
Nothing wrong with them as long as you're into nihilism.
#6
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:27
#7
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:40
#8
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:49
YorickMori wrote...
Since you love death so much, you might as well kill yourself. Apparently, anyone who doesn't love death and carnage is a hippie now. Nobody complains that the endings are bad. But out of the 6 endings, none of them are positive. That's completely retarded, almost as retarded as you are.
Yeah, the OP is missing the point. What's the point of all the choices you make during the trilogy, if the outcome is bad anyway ?
#9
Posté 29 février 2012 - 11:53
#10
Guest_BNPunish_*
Posté 29 février 2012 - 12:07
Guest_BNPunish_*
i've putted 1 year to get 36 saves and i want them to have atleast 1 good ending.
i never liked fallout 3 and after it i personaly declared war on bethesda.
if the leaks are real and i see them for my selfsame happens to bioware i love all of bioware games i loved the happy endings of mass effect and i want them back you just can spit on my face and say no.
#11
Posté 29 février 2012 - 12:08
BobSmith101 wrote...
We are not talking about a single ending but 7.
If the game had one fixed ending like RDR then that's completely different.
So what? ME2 had potentially 32768 endings which barely had any difference to them.
#12
Posté 29 février 2012 - 12:25
#13
Posté 29 février 2012 - 12:27
vivanto wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
We are not talking about a single ending but 7.
If the game had one fixed ending like RDR then that's completely different.
So what? ME2 had potentially 32768 endings which barely had any difference to them.
There were only 2 real endings though. Each one different.
#14
Posté 29 février 2012 - 12:46
I don't have a problem with sacrificing things and characrters for the story. Virmire? Forced but appropriate. The sacrifices you make to recruit war assets (e.g. krogan or rachni or quarians etc), they work. Thane having Kepral Syndrome, sure why not. I'm even willing to sacrifice Shepard for the greater good if that's what it takes.
The ME3 endings go beyond sacrfice and into sadism. No matter what you do Shepard personally and the galaxy collectively is completely screwed. Everything all those characters fought and died for was for nothing. Everything SHEPARD fought and died for is for nothing. Galactic extinction has been replaced with a new dark age. His closest friends are stranded on some forgotten rock. Shepard's all alone.
Bioware kept telling us this was a war story. You know the thing about war stories? If they cover the end of a conflict they usually end with the survivors getting to go home and rebuild.
#15
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:09
#16
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:09
LookingGlass93 wrote...
OK, enough with hating on people who don't like the ending.
I don't have a problem with sacrificing things and characrters for the story. Virmire? Forced but appropriate. The sacrifices you make to recruit war assets (e.g. krogan or rachni or quarians etc), they work. Thane having Kepral Syndrome, sure why not. I'm even willing to sacrifice Shepard for the greater good if that's what it takes.
The ME3 endings go beyond sacrfice and into sadism. No matter what you do Shepard personally and the galaxy collectively is completely screwed. Everything all those characters fought and died for was for nothing. Everything SHEPARD fought and died for is for nothing. Galactic extinction has been replaced with a new dark age. His closest friends are stranded on some forgotten rock. Shepard's all alone.
Bioware kept telling us this was a war story. You know the thing about war stories? If they cover the end of a conflict they usually end with the survivors getting to go home and rebuild.
I wish Daqs was on to correct you on your use of Dark Age.
Yes you probably lost half the Galaxy to the Reapers, yes, several colonies and possibly Homeworlds have gone.
But
you won, and the survivors will rebuild. Not as happy as you want your
soap to end, but not every war story ends moderately vague.
You lost the main intergalatic transportation, you probably lost several levels of starship technology. But its only a few hundred years. You need to take this into a perspective scope, the Reapers are gone. For the first time in over millions of years, the Galaxy has a new chance for Organic life to evolve at a rate not controlled by Synthetic Machines who are hypocritically avoiding a Synthetic/AI disaster.
If you think the lives lost over Earth were pointless, you're the only one who lost. Just like the dozens of morons here who thinks Shepard is going to be emotionally shattered by losing contact, even though Shepard fully well knew it was probably going to be a suicide mission. Shepard will survive, the living have no choice but to continue living.
#17
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:21
incinerator950 wrote...
I wish Daqs was on to correct you on your use of Dark Age.
Yes you probably lost half the Galaxy to the Reapers, yes, several colonies and possibly Homeworlds have gone.
But you won, and the survivors will rebuild. Not as happy as you want your soap to end, but not every war story ends moderately vague.
You lost the main intergalatic transportation, you probably lost several levels of starship technology. But its only a few hundred years. You need to take this into a perspective scope, the Reapers are gone. For the first time in over millions of years, the Galaxy has a new chance for Organic life to evolve at a rate not controlled by Synthetic Machines who are hypocritically avoiding a Synthetic/AI disaster.
If you think the lives lost over Earth were pointless, you're the only one who lost. Just like the dozens of morons here who thinks Shepard is going to be emotionally shattered by losing contact, even though Shepard fully well knew it was probably going to be a suicide mission. Shepard will survive, the living have no choice but to continue living.
The ME3 ending is essentially mutually assured destruction. NO ONE wins. The Reapers being gone was only part of the point. The war ended with the destruction of the current organic way of life. It ends in a way that will lead to massive poverty, war, and death. Organics LOST.
As for the Reapers guiding organic society, who cares? There was value in the relays. They lead to expanded colonisation, to prosperity for trillions. The fact that the Reapers were evil doesn't invalidate everything they ever had a hand in.
#18
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:28
LookingGlass93 wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
I wish Daqs was on to correct you on your use of Dark Age.
Yes you probably lost half the Galaxy to the Reapers, yes, several colonies and possibly Homeworlds have gone.
But you won, and the survivors will rebuild. Not as happy as you want your soap to end, but not every war story ends moderately vague.
You lost the main intergalatic transportation, you probably lost several levels of starship technology. But its only a few hundred years. You need to take this into a perspective scope, the Reapers are gone. For the first time in over millions of years, the Galaxy has a new chance for Organic life to evolve at a rate not controlled by Synthetic Machines who are hypocritically avoiding a Synthetic/AI disaster.
If you think the lives lost over Earth were pointless, you're the only one who lost. Just like the dozens of morons here who thinks Shepard is going to be emotionally shattered by losing contact, even though Shepard fully well knew it was probably going to be a suicide mission. Shepard will survive, the living have no choice but to continue living.
The ME3 ending is essentially mutually assured destruction. NO ONE wins. The Reapers being gone was only part of the point. The war ended with the destruction of the current organic way of life. It ends in a way that will lead to massive poverty, war, and death. Organics LOST.
As for the Reapers guiding organic society, who cares? There was value in the relays. They lead to expanded colonisation, to prosperity for trillions. The fact that the Reapers were evil doesn't invalidate everything they ever had a hand in.
No, they had a hand in all Organic civilization rising and falling for millions of years. Now we finally have the chance to develop something ourselves. Mutually assured destruction would have been every mass Relay detonating like it did in Arrival, in this case I assume a lot of Soap fans want that now.
A lot of people will die, but many will still live. The Best Paragon ending also leaves a standing Earth, which means human survivors.
You are a lot more emo then I was in high school, jesus.
#19
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:30
BobSmith101 wrote...
There were only 2 real endings though. Each one different.
Which 2 are you thinking of? Apparently none of them really made any difference to anything ME3 related, which is fine considering the same happened to the ME1 endings.
#20
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:32
And how exactly is it different from Reaper's cycle, thanks to which civilisations blossom and fall? Now it will be just a long fall. Or maybe they will invent some new idea in further games, but it still doesn't change a fact that a fate of characters people actually care about is every time just hopeless.incinerator950 wrote...
LookingGlass93 wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
I wish Daqs was on to correct you on your use of Dark Age.
Yes you probably lost half the Galaxy to the Reapers, yes, several colonies and possibly Homeworlds have gone.
But you won, and the survivors will rebuild. Not as happy as you want your soap to end, but not every war story ends moderately vague.
You lost the main intergalatic transportation, you probably lost several levels of starship technology. But its only a few hundred years. You need to take this into a perspective scope, the Reapers are gone. For the first time in over millions of years, the Galaxy has a new chance for Organic life to evolve at a rate not controlled by Synthetic Machines who are hypocritically avoiding a Synthetic/AI disaster.
If you think the lives lost over Earth were pointless, you're the only one who lost. Just like the dozens of morons here who thinks Shepard is going to be emotionally shattered by losing contact, even though Shepard fully well knew it was probably going to be a suicide mission. Shepard will survive, the living have no choice but to continue living.
The ME3 ending is essentially mutually assured destruction. NO ONE wins. The Reapers being gone was only part of the point. The war ended with the destruction of the current organic way of life. It ends in a way that will lead to massive poverty, war, and death. Organics LOST.
As for the Reapers guiding organic society, who cares? There was value in the relays. They lead to expanded colonisation, to prosperity for trillions. The fact that the Reapers were evil doesn't invalidate everything they ever had a hand in.
No, they had a hand in all Organic civilization rising and falling for millions of years. Now we finally have the chance to develop something ourselves. Mutually assured destruction would have been every mass Relay detonating like it did in Arrival, in this case I assume a lot of Soap fans want that now.
A lot of people will die, but many will still live. The Best Paragon ending also leaves a standing Earth, which means human survivors.
#21
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:42
misoretu9 wrote...
And how exactly is it different from Reaper's cycle, thanks to which civilisations blossom and fall? Now it will be just a long fall. Or maybe they will invent some new idea in further games, but it still doesn't change a fact that a fate of characters people actually care about is every time just hopeless.incinerator950 wrote...
LookingGlass93 wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
I wish Daqs was on to correct you on your use of Dark Age.
Yes you probably lost half the Galaxy to the Reapers, yes, several colonies and possibly Homeworlds have gone.
But you won, and the survivors will rebuild. Not as happy as you want your soap to end, but not every war story ends moderately vague.
You lost the main intergalatic transportation, you probably lost several levels of starship technology. But its only a few hundred years. You need to take this into a perspective scope, the Reapers are gone. For the first time in over millions of years, the Galaxy has a new chance for Organic life to evolve at a rate not controlled by Synthetic Machines who are hypocritically avoiding a Synthetic/AI disaster.
If you think the lives lost over Earth were pointless, you're the only one who lost. Just like the dozens of morons here who thinks Shepard is going to be emotionally shattered by losing contact, even though Shepard fully well knew it was probably going to be a suicide mission. Shepard will survive, the living have no choice but to continue living.
The ME3 ending is essentially mutually assured destruction. NO ONE wins. The Reapers being gone was only part of the point. The war ended with the destruction of the current organic way of life. It ends in a way that will lead to massive poverty, war, and death. Organics LOST.
As for the Reapers guiding organic society, who cares? There was value in the relays. They lead to expanded colonisation, to prosperity for trillions. The fact that the Reapers were evil doesn't invalidate everything they ever had a hand in.
No, they had a hand in all Organic civilization rising and falling for millions of years. Now we finally have the chance to develop something ourselves. Mutually assured destruction would have been every mass Relay detonating like it did in Arrival, in this case I assume a lot of Soap fans want that now.
A lot of people will die, but many will still live. The Best Paragon ending also leaves a standing Earth, which means human survivors.
The Reaper Cycle is to destroy and absorb Organic races before they reach the expected AI Singularity event. Any races deemed worthy become Capitals, anything lesser become the Various destroyers and other Reaper Support Craft.
By ending the Cycle, Civilizations can now rise and fall naturally. Without Reaper Technology to guide organics down a select road, they can discover new means of transportation, technology, etc.
Or everyone will suffer nostalgia, and rebuild the Relays. If the Protheans could build the Conduit, then a few hundred years can build relays too.
Also, the real complaint by the various base isn't the ending, its the Normandy, Epilogue, and crew status. Something I don't give two ****s about, because I made the concious decision not to get emotionally attached to this game.
#22
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:43
incinerator950 wrote...
No, they had a hand in all Organic civilization rising and falling for millions of years. Now we finally have the chance to develop something ourselves. Mutually assured destruction would have been every mass Relay detonating like it did in Arrival, in this case I assume a lot of Soap fans want that now.
A lot of people will die, but many will still live. The Best Paragon ending also leaves a standing Earth, which means human survivors.
You are a lot more emo then I was in high school, jesus.
And you apparently have very low standards for victory, and a certain callousness towards collateral damage.
The Reaper invasion lead to the fall of a civilization, and the neutralization of the Reapers themselves. In some endings that means they die, while others just have them go away for another cycle. No one achieved what they wanted (extinction vs protection of the status quo), and both sides suffered unimaginable losses at the hands of each other. If you call that victory just because there were survivors, then like I said that's a low threshold.
As for the development, why is it necessary to discover each and everything on our own? Is it wrong to rely on the past to inform our decisions as to what mistakes to avoid and what opportunities to take? The relays helped everyone, humans included. The Reapers making them doesn't detract from that.
#23
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:44
#24
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:44
#25
Posté 29 février 2012 - 01:49
Darth Malice113 wrote...
Paul Rodney wrote...
Im sure you'd all love your little fairy tale happy fken rainbow hippie bull**** endings where Shepard marries a purple alien and dances around the normandy like a ****got and they all live happily ever after
**** U EVERYONE DIES THATS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE.
Nothing wrong with them as long as you're into nihilism.
I'm into nihilism. If these puny biological beings kill the Gods they must pay the price.
Yeah maybe some want to kill the mechanical Gods and go shopping with your blue girlfriend... but I think that its a bit silly, isn't it? But I suggest to Bioware to launch it as a free DLC option. I simply will keep it away from me.




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