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[DeathScepter]

interesting Setup. But how would you attract older veterans of Kotor 1 and Kotor 2? There is a major difference between a remake(use the same engine and rules but expanding it a great deal) and a new game. Would your ideas make for a New Star Wars game any good? Yes it would. Keep in mind many of my ideas are expanding the Original Kotor 1 itself that it would attract both old players like myself and newer players.

Being too similar in game mechanics to DAO is a bad thing. Not all DAO players like Star wars and not All Kotor players like DAO. It doesn't mean that Bioware shouldn't take note of DAO and use it within the Remake.

For example, Nemesis(Jedi Sentinel specialization) is a blend of Templar, Berserker and Assassin.

Templar Traits: Drains Force energy from Enemy Jedi and Force users and shuts down any buffs like Dark Rage, Force Speed or Force Armor.

Berserker Traits: Works Well with the more aggressive Lightsaber forms like Juyo, Ataru, Shien and Djem So.

Assassin Traits: Either at Range or close up, Nemesis can do extra damage from flanking.

Ask me For further information.

[DeathScepter]

No matter if they favor your ideas or mine. It show be a balance of New and Old. Enough New for it will be to replay.

Game mechanics will be good. New Quests will be important. For how Republic and Sith train their troopers to fight Each other Force users and how their force users to fight Normal people.

As for Sith Academy on Korriban, Different styles of Training that are challenging and more ways to remove other students. For example, One of the challenges would be Unarmed combat between your character and another student. Then two students Then three student and so Forth.

Many martial arts will have one stance for effect the Triceta of Melee Weapons, Lightsabers and Unarmed Melee.

Also Gearset for Force Warriors(unarmed Force Users that study martial arts), Martial artist and Duelist.

I am all for Increasing Content for gameplay, more gear and more quests.

[DeathScepter]

Well Nizaris, there should be a difference between class and class specialization.

All classes should be set up similar to Kotor 1, 2 and DAO when you are choosing out to set up a character. Jolee should stay a Jedi Consular, Juhani should stay a Jedi Guardian and Bastila should stay a Jedi Sentinel. Revan should choose between those classes when he becomes a Jedi.


class:
Jedi Guardian: Strong Combat. Jedi guardian is a Jedi Guardian regardless alignment or specialization. Common abilities are a must.
Jedi Sentinel: Well balanced. Jedi Sentinel is a Jedi Sentinel regardless of alignment or specialization. So common abilities are a must.
Jedi Consular: Strong in the Force. So Jedi Consular is a Jedi Consular regardless of alignment or specialization. common abilities are a must.

class Specialization:
Jedi Guardian class:
Jedi Warblade: Agility based DPSer that favors the Double lightsaber

Jedi BattleMaster: in their class interchangeable passive stance window, They can use the force to support their allies and increase their overall DPS while maintaining their own DPS.

Jedi Sentinel class:
Nemesis: Relentless Killer that uses drains,shutdowns, DPS strengthening, Health Regeneration, stealth and Force resistance in their class passive stance window to track down and stop various enemies.

Bastion: Jedi Defender that uses the force to strengthen himself thru his unique abilities to defend any location.

Jedi Consular class:

1st specialization: it should be based on Master Yoda. Let all of the Jedi Consular players that love Yoda to have A Specialization that is reflective of that.

2nd specialization: For the Palpatine fans and those whom love using offensive force abilities in general, this specialization is for you.


There are several gear sets including Juggernaut for all Dark Jedi Guardians. Assassin for all Dark Jedi Sentinels. Inquisitor are for all Dark Jedi Consulars. Also There are several Gear sets for Dark Aligned Jedi including Bladeborn and Sith BladeMaster.

For training at Jedi Academy and Sith Academy. You can learn an new ability for any character. There is an new ability for Jedi called Force Training. Force training is an new feat that when a Jedi learns it with a trainer or on his or her own, that Jedi will get 4 Force powers in addition to the current selectable force ability of that Jedi class.

There are 3 Force Training feats you can learn and they will boost your Jedi character's overall force abilities in addition to having up to 12 Total new force abilities to play with.

Also with your Jedi class and specialization, there will be new abilities that will unlock overtime that are normal for that class and specialization. Also there are many new abilities that can be learned thru trainers on Sith Academy or Jedi Academy for a Fee or you can learn the new abilities during leveling up. Also buying Datacrons will be normal for all characters. So your character can learn new martial arts, lightsaber forms, passive stances, feats, Improving other abilities and other things.

[DeathScepter]

That is why we need to unresicted Force Jump, Force Focus and Force Immunity as unique abilities.

With my method, Jedi can learn both lightsabers forms and Force Forms regardless of class or specialization while being different.

1. class/Specialization interchangeable passive stance.

2. Martial arts interchangeable passive stance

3. Lightsaber Form or Unique Ability interchangeable passive stance

4. Force Form or Another Ability interchangeable passive stance

With this 4 windows, More variety for both Non force users and force users alike. So you can have a Very combat friendly Jedi Consular or Force Friendly Jedi Guardian.

My specialization Jedi Guardian: Jedi Battle Master is very much a powerful force user because he uses the force to both strengthen himself and his allies with the force by using Unique stances from 1. class/specialization passive stance. And yes within it, it does have a common Jedi passive stance that is common to all Jedi classes that quickly recovers Health and Forces Points.

Side Note: Jedi Battle Master does function similar to DAO Warrior/Champion because it does have a Jedi verison of War Cry as a 1. class/Specialization stance.

Jedi War Blade is just an acrobatic young Obi Wan/Anakin blend.

Darth Sidious is actually an unique blend of classes despite him being a Dark Wizard archetype. Rule of Two Sith Lords are more jack of all trades Sith than classed focused Sith.

Even Darth Bane, Despite being more of a Sith Warrior/Jedi Guardian archetype, has some of the traits of the Sith Inquistor.

Hell even Darth Malak had both Force Focus and Force Jump and His Sith Title is Sith Magnus. And All Sith Magnus are Sith Sorcerers.

[DeathScepter]

well Nizaris, No all of us will argee with your ideas. Within Canon, Jedi Guardian, Jedi Sentinel and Jedi Consular do already exist.

Within Kotor 1, With a proper specced build, Jedi Consular is quite good at combat. And Jedi Guardian is good at force abilities.

Master Two Weapon Fighting+Flurry+Strength 14+Dexterity 16=Quite good for any Offensive Melee build. Also with Strength and Dexterity can be inverse of each other. So Strength 16+Dexterity 14 =Good as well.

Also Other than the Unique Jedi class feats, All the force powers are already avaible for all Jedi classes within the original game.

Jedi as a class of itself will be bland. That is why we have three different classes. Even then Many of the Sith that we encounter with Kotor 1 and 2 are former Jedi. They don't stop being a Jedi Consular when they go to the dark side. Same with the Dark Jedi Guardian and Dark Jedi Sentinel.

Even within DAO, a Rogue doesn't stop being a Rogue when he becomes an Assassin, Duelist, Bard or a Ranger. Those four specialization are 4 different ways to be a Rogue. Also with DAO, Warrior has Reaver, Champion, Berserker and Templar. All 4 of them are still warrior but 4 different ways of playing as Warrior. Mage has Blood Mage, Spirit healer, shapeshifter and Arcane Warrior. But Still your character is still a mage.

Well I am trying to be respectful of Kotor 1's lore and overall Jedi Order's lore. Also Kotor 1 is a based off Star Wars Saga Edition in which has those classes before its shift to reduce the number of classes.

Your verison would make a good star wars game. But I don't think that it will make a good Kotor game.

[DeathScepter]

We will disargee on many of each other's ideas but we can argee on that Kotor 1 remake should be made and greatly improved on.

Well In my set up, Jedi Hybrids for the Jedi Traditional classes will be quite easy. Regardless of class or specialization, Martial arts, Lightsaber forms and Force Forms will be unresricted to the Jedi.

You might like the Force Forms due to that they always improve the Force Connection in some fashion.

A Dark Jedi Consular(Palpatine) would love Force Potency due to that it will increase the effectiveness of all offensive force abilities. In my head, it is set up where it can work with both lightsaber forms and martial arts.

So you could have a Jedi Consular to be a master of the martial arts, Juyo and Force Potency.

http://starwars.wiki...wiki/Force_form you might like that link

As for my Jedi BattleMaster, it can be used for Netural, Dark or Light. Many of my specializations are meant to used by the Dark Jedi turned Sith. Taking their knowledge of the Jedi and using against them.

So there will be Dark Nemesis, Dark Jedi Battle Masters and Dark Bastions that you will face. All of them has their own several unique abilities and all of them will be using them generously. Yes They are equal to Nightmare version of Elite Bosses of DAO comes to quality of boss and overall intelligence will be on the high end.

For example, One of the Unique abilities of Bastion is Stance that is blend of Force Potency and Soresu and Heighten Force Regeneration. The Main strength and point of Bastion is both Solid lightsaber defense and Strong Force Regeneration. It is true you can have your Bastion to have any lightsaber she choose but always expect a Solid defense from Both its passive abilities and its Interchangeable passive stances.

[DeathScepter]

that is true. In the Normal game, you can have a Light Jedi with Force Choke, Or a Dark Jedi with Force Heal.

Also There will be trainers in both Jedi Academy and Sith Academy. So If your Revan has requirements, that trainer will teach you for a small price. Also with all trainers, they have all of the requirements for training for that class and Specialization. So you can use a lot of money on one Master Trainer, so you can max out.

New Abilities for classes:

Jedi Guardian: Automatic
Padawan Jedi Guardian at lvl 1 Jedi Guardian,
Knight Jedi Guardian at lvl 5,
Master Jedi Guardian at lvl 10.

Focused Warrior: Requirements: Lvl 1 Jedi Guardian, Padawan Jedi Guardian Feat. Increase Critical Threat:+1
Focused Warrior: Requirements: Lvl 5 Jedi Guardian, Knight Jedi Guardian Feat. Increase Critical Threat:+2. Does Stack with Previous Feat for the total of Critical Threat:+3
Focused Warrior: Requirements: Lvl 10 Jedi Guardian, Master Jedi Guardian Feat. Increase Critical Threat:+3 Does Stack with Previous 2 Feats for the total Critical Threat:+6

Focused Warrior is one of many possible feats that is only for the Jedi Guardian also it is optional.

One of another core abilities that Jedi Guardian.

class/Specialization:(1st window only)

Sidenote: Shien's strength is fighting many enemies at the same time and good blaster deflection.

1: Master Two Weapon Fighting/Shien/Increase Health Regeneration
2: Master Two Weapon Fighting/Shien/Every enemy that surrounds you, you get Damage: +10.
3: Master Two Weapon Fighting/Shien/Increase Blaster deflection: +10
4: Master Two Weapon Fighting/Shien/Increase Critical Threat:+3
5: Master Two Weapon Fighting/Shien/Increase Squad's Damage:+10

Those Stances will learned automaticly for all Jedi Guardians on odd levels from lvl 1-lvl 10.

Even with the Dark Specialization counterparts, their abilities will be netural. For Example with Force Potency, A light Jedi can use it to make Stasis or Destroy Droid work more effectively.

As for Jedi War Blade, It is a Jedi Guardian that its abilities that encourages you to use Force Jump and Force Speed regularly. Nice Bonus it does have for more acrobatic and aggressive combat.

So Bonus to Power Attack, Force Jump and Force Speed. And Jedi War Blade is fan of Ataru and Master Two Weapon Fighting.

One common passive stance will be a Shii Co type passive stance for all Jedi classes and characters.