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[Tazzmission]

wheres a link?

[Tazzmission]

Stanley Woo wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

If I disagree with a review score, the site or publication is corrupt and paid off.

If I agree with a review score, it's honest.

It's science.

This. Use your own judgement, folks,

thank you stan! because i was saying the same thing for 2 weeks

[Domnuxx]

Look, I don't post often on BSN, but seriously most of the members whine and complain about everything. They act as if they already played the game and know everything about it.

What i know is that I bought my CE DDE on Origin already and i'm going to enjoy every minute of it, no matter what some magazine says.

[Kanmuru]

onyl 9/10? Preorder Cancelled!!!111one

[Vazen]

I woudn't even trust the newbies. Cause most of them are going to be 12 13 years old COD addicts unfortunatly... 

[loomis2170]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Why is everyone reviewing the PS3 version? We have literally four outlets using the PS3 version and none using the 360.

it only covers sony's ps3/vita,psp

[chothug]

THIS HAS MINOR SPOILERS! I think..

http://www.gamespot....2060239/?page=0

Modifié par chothug, 29 février 2012 - 10:42 .

[Srefanius]

Abisco wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Really, how can you guys take these reviews seriously, Given how much corruption there is in the video game review industry. I'd suggest waiting to see what everyday users have to say about the game, They are your most unbiased opinions that you will get.

Yeah, cause Metacritics userscore for DA2 of 4.4 is a clear indicator that user scores are much less bias.
And yes, I know I'll be attacked for defending DA2, but its not a 4.4 / 10. It's more like a 6.5

Users are incredibly ridiculous in their scores, reaching to either side of an extreme...
Reviewers are better when you find one that you agree with. 

I also hate how many people always relate to metacritics. A platform like this only shows the opinion of the mass. And its funny how many people think that the mass is right. DA2 is a good example for that. So many people gave it a low score cause of disappiontment and not how good the game really is. DA2 is a good game, even though its not outstanding or a must buy. Scores tell you almost nothing about a game, read the reviews and you get so much more information if you  could like the game...

Modifié par Srefanius, 29 février 2012 - 10:55 .

[Abisco]

Srefanius wrote...

Abisco wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Really, how can you guys take these reviews seriously, Given how much corruption there is in the video game review industry. I'd suggest waiting to see what everyday users have to say about the game, They are your most unbiased opinions that you will get.

Yeah, cause Metacritics userscore for DA2 of 4.4 is a clear indicator that user scores are much less bias.
And yes, I know I'll be attacked for defending DA2, but its not a 4.4 / 10. It's more like a 6.5

Users are incredibly ridiculous in their scores, reaching to either side of an extreme...
Reviewers are better when you find one that you agree with. 

I also hate how many people always relate to metacritics. A platform like this only shows the opinion of the mass. And its funny how many people think that the mass is right. DA2 is a good example for that. So many people gave it a low score cause of disappiontment and not how good the game really is. DA2 is a good game, even though its not outstanding or a must buy. Scores tell you almost nothing about a game, read the reviews and you get so much more information if you  could like the game...

Exactly. I just can't stand people thinking USERS are a better indication then critics, when both have credibility in their own right. 

[Wulfram]

Srefanius wrote...

]I also hate how many people always relate to metacritics. A platform like this only shows the opinion of the mass. And its funny how many people think that the mass is right. DA2 is a good example for that. So many people gave it a low score cause of disappiontment and not how good the game really is. DA2 is a good game, even though its not outstanding or a must buy. Scores tell you almost nothing about a game, read the reviews and you get so much more information if you  could like the game...

The rpoblem with the user scores is that they're self selecting.  If you picked a 100 people (ideally more) at random who've played DA2 and asked them to rate it, that's how you'd get a decent view of what people think of it.

[BuffPhantoms]

MetaCritic user scores are not valid samples.

Several websites (like 4chan) review bomb/troll games with 0's in mass. That being said, I agree that DAII was mostly a crappy game and Bioware's worst. I hope they learned their lesson and I'm sure ME3 will get a 90% or above metacritic REVIEWER average.

Modifié par BuffPhantoms, 29 février 2012 - 11:04 .

[DaJe]

Abisco wrote...

Srefanius wrote...

Abisco wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Really, how can you guys take these reviews seriously, Given how much corruption there is in the video game review industry. I'd suggest waiting to see what everyday users have to say about the game, They are your most unbiased opinions that you will get.

Yeah, cause Metacritics userscore for DA2 of 4.4 is a clear indicator that user scores are much less bias.
And yes, I know I'll be attacked for defending DA2, but its not a 4.4 / 10. It's more like a 6.5

Users are incredibly ridiculous in their scores, reaching to either side of an extreme...
Reviewers are better when you find one that you agree with. 

I also hate how many people always relate to metacritics. A platform like this only shows the opinion of the mass. And its funny how many people think that the mass is right. DA2 is a good example for that. So many people gave it a low score cause of disappiontment and not how good the game really is. DA2 is a good game, even though its not outstanding or a must buy. Scores tell you almost nothing about a game, read the reviews and you get so much more information if you  could like the game...

Exactly. I just can't stand people thinking USERS are a better indication then critics, when both have credibility in their own right. 

In either case DA2 is still a rushed mediocre game that looks older than it's long in development predecessor. Scores of 0 are retarded and not objective, but neither are the top official reviews. It got what it deserved, eventhough I agree that the masses often enough can't apreciate quality. *cough*jersey shore*cough* fire fly cancelled...

[RyuGuitarFreak]

So, they're praising the PLOT? This must be an outrage!

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Really, how can you guys take these reviews seriously, Given how much corruption there is in the video game review industry. I'd suggest waiting to see what everyday users have to say about the game, They are your most unbiased opinions that you will get.

Just make sure they're actually everyday users and not hardcore fans.

We're zealots, the lot of us.  ME3 will either be the Best Game Ever or Worst Game Ever in our eyes.  We'll need to take the word of the n00bs on this one if we truly want something unbiased.

Not really, I consider myself a core GAMER. I literally play everything, from Angry Birds to Civilization. Of course I play some genres more than others. I'm huge fighting games fan, RPG fan, Action Adventure fan and because of Valve and this generation, shooter fan. Because of this, my opinion and views coincides A LOT with critics. I'm not a n00b and consider myself unbiased mostly. Just as I don't agree with all this conspiracy theory about reviews. Mostly because, well, people don't usally seem to READ the reviews nowadays. In my opinion, when there are grades it's a matter of a text reflecting it to spot honesty or BS. Just pick your reviewers well if you want to give someone any credit.

[Daywalker315]

BuffPhantoms wrote...

MetaCritic user scores are not valid samples.

Several websites (like 4chan) review bomb/troll games with 0's in mass. That being said, I agree that DAII was mostly a crappy game and Bioware's worst. I hope they learned their lesson and I'm sure ME3 will get a 90% or above metacritic REVIEWER average.

I don't think it's a "learned their lesson" type of thing. ME3 is made by a different team than DA2. The core of the ME3 team is largely the same as ME2 and to a lesser extent, ME1 (some turnover of jobs have to be taken into account). DA2 was made by the most of the core team that made DA:O (and probably added a lot of people due to the success of DA:O, which may have hurt more than it helped).

[streamlock]

Well, as a general rule I find that the more obscure the site/mag-the more telling the review actually is.

The absolute score can be hard to judge from these sources at times though-They have a tendency to do squirly stuff like have someone who never plays an RTS review an RTS game or some nonsense.

The big ones (PCGamer, IGN, Gamespot, what have you) are just under to much pressure (advertising revenue, exclusives, you name it) from the heavyweights to score AAA releases with anything resembling unbiased. They will knock 'em in the body of the review for stuff, it just will not effect the overall score.

Taking that into account, you kinda have to wait for a few reviews to come out and create an aggregate result in your head, ignoring the number scores from the big sites/mags.

[Daywalker315]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

So, they're praising the PLOT? This must be an outrage!

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Really, how can you guys take these reviews seriously, Given how much corruption there is in the video game review industry. I'd suggest waiting to see what everyday users have to say about the game, They are your most unbiased opinions that you will get.

Just make sure they're actually everyday users and not hardcore fans.

We're zealots, the lot of us.  ME3 will either be the Best Game Ever or Worst Game Ever in our eyes.  We'll need to take the word of the n00bs on this one if we truly want something unbiased.

Not really, I consider myself a core GAMER. I literally play everything, from Angry Birds to Civilization. Of course I play some genres more than others. I'm huge fighting games fan, RPG fan, Action Adventure fan and because of Valve and this generation, shooter fan. Because of this, my opinion and views coincides A LOT with critics. I'm not a n00b and consider myself unbiased mostly. Just as I don't agree with all this conspiracy theory about reviews. Mostly because, well, people don't usally seem to READ the reviews nowadays. In my opinion, when there are grades it's a matter of a text reflecting it to spot honesty or BS. Just pick your reviewers well if you want to give someone any credit.

Agreed. The score provides the flash of a review but ultimately the two or three pages of text and the actual "review" part is what I pay attention to. Unless of course the game gets a 3/10 or something. In which case I would only read the text part to laugh at all the comments of how bad it is.

[AlarisT]

Firstly, let me compliment you all in putting for respectful and well-thought comments.

Secondly, let's face it. ME3 is going to be awesome. I'm already addicted to the ME3 co-op demo, so even if the SP is terrible (which is not very likely at all), I will still be putting many minutes into this game.

Thirdly, I agree that a lot of the reviews on mainstream sites are becoming more and more suspect. I remember a day when I almost always agreed with Gamespot's scores - too bad their forums are full of disrespecting trolls. 

Modifié par AlarisT, 02 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[azerSheppard]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

 I love how they talk about archaic engine by talking about Unreal Engine 3/3.5... 

I mean at least wait for Unreal Engine 4 to be release before calling that.

Probably talking about the Renderer, as it's not a DX11 game.

[Travie]

Garrus30 wrote...

Well we have one 9/10 and possible two 9/10 (german mag Gamestar and IGN)

Yeah, but IGN doesn't have any good reviewers anymore.

Sad to see a once good site go down the crapper like that.

[azerSheppard]

How about having your own f*****g opinion?

[Nima55]

Daywalker315 wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

MetaCritic user scores are not valid samples.

Several websites (like 4chan) review bomb/troll games with 0's in mass. That being said, I agree that DAII was mostly a crappy game and Bioware's worst. I hope they learned their lesson and I'm sure ME3 will get a 90% or above metacritic REVIEWER average.

I don't think it's a "learned their lesson" type of thing. ME3 is made by a different team than DA2. The core of the ME3 team is largely the same as ME2 and to a lesser extent, ME1 (some turnover of jobs have to be taken into account). DA2 was made by the most of the core team that made DA:O (and probably added a lot of people due to the success of DA:O, which may have hurt more than it helped).

WHAT? Ridiculous! don't you know that everyone at bioware works on every game and every aspect of all those games 

[TheLostGenius]

Woo is right. People have opinions!!

[TexasToast712]

 No 10/10? 
*Throws chair out of window which starts a chain of events that results in a cancelled pre order*

[squee913]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 No 10/10? 
*Throws chair out of window which starts a chain of events that results in a cancelled pre order*

Next time, could you make your chain of events less epic? The aftermath forced me to walk 18 miles to find my shoes, and I'm still shaving green stuff off of my cat....

[Legendaryred]

This reminds me of DA2, where even bioware employees were giving it a rate of 10 on metacritic, and reviews stated it as 9/10 and user reviews 4/10 lolololololol.