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[Carnage752]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The flashback will show you with your LI (if its Ashley or Liara) and show those characters that you have the highest relationships with. You get 6 different endings, as mentioned by KainrycKarr. And for all we know, there are other threads wrapped up before the conclusion. So Gamble is likely being very accurate.

He just doesn't mention that nothing you do can prevent you from being killed or stranded and galactic civilization being swept away, rendering many of your choices pointless.At least according to the spoilers.

It's not what he said it's the timing. This is obviously a counter to the leaks. The question is: Why? Damage control is already out of the question, so what is it?

[Carnage752]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

 Original source: www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/

That's an old source. I'm talking about the new source. Don't be a dick.

Chill out.  I was just posting the original source of the interview, which is what your source is reporting on.  No need to get hostile over it.

Apologies. But I can't find the date to that source. Was it after the leaks? Because this new article is.

[Sovereign Xfire]

"Many different endings?"

We have dismissed that claim.

[Whatever42]

Carnage752 wrote...

Apologies. But I can't find the date to that source. Was it after the leaks? Because this new article is.

Yeah, the original article was posted today. It's still the top story on their home page, as I post this.

http://www.360magazine.co.uk/ 

[ArkkAngel007]

Carnage752 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

 Original source: www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/

That's an old source. I'm talking about the new source. Don't be a dick.

Chill out.  I was just posting the original source of the interview, which is what your source is reporting on.  No need to get hostile over it.

Apologies. But I can't find the date to that source. Was it after the leaks? Because this new article is.

Hey, it's cool.  Didn't mean to be so blunt myself.  It's just been fairly crazy on here since the leaks, so I'm not going to blame you on that.

I'm not sure when that interview took place, as I couldn't find a date either.  Sometimes interviews are posted soon after they happen, sometimes they are month or more prior due to NDAs.  In either case, until we see the games ourselves or get more solid proof on what is going on outside a couple of screenshots, then we can only guess if Gamble is dancing around the question, believes in what he says, or it is actually the case.

[AlphaJarmel]

Wouldn't be the first time a developer has either mislead or straight up lied in the past month.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 29 février 2012 - 09:22 .

[Carnage752]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

 Original source: www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/

That's an old source. I'm talking about the new source. Don't be a dick.

Chill out.  I was just posting the original source of the interview, which is what your source is reporting on.  No need to get hostile over it.

Apologies. But I can't find the date to that source. Was it after the leaks? Because this new article is.

Hey, it's cool.  Didn't mean to be so blunt myself.  It's just been fairly crazy on here since the leaks, so I'm not going to blame you on that.

I'm not sure when that interview took place, as I couldn't find a date either.  Sometimes interviews are posted soon after they happen, sometimes they are month or more prior due to NDAs.  In either case, until we see the games ourselves or get more solid proof on what is going on outside a couple of screenshots, then we can only guess if Gamble is dancing around the question, believes in what he says, or it is actually the case.

This just confirms that it's a counter to the leaks. The question is: Is it damage control or a hint that the trolls are wrong? Damage control is out of the question because it does little but delay the ****storm, but the alternative? One can hope:innocent:

[Carnage752]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Wouldn't be the first time a developer has either mislead or straight up lied in the first month.

Little point in it though. The game comes out in 6 days, so we would find out ourselves. That would just convince people more that Bioware is now untrustworthy. Very counterproductive.

Modifié par Carnage752, 29 février 2012 - 09:23 .

[Carnage752]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Apologies. But I can't find the date to that source. Was it after the leaks? Because this new article is.

Yeah, the original article was posted today. It's still the top story on their home page, as I post this.

http://www.360magazine.co.uk/ 

Thanks.

[Olueq]

I still think we are all getting trolled.

[AlphaJarmel]

Carnage752 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Wouldn't be the first time a developer has either mislead or straight up lied in the first month.

Little point in it though. The game comes out in 6 days, so we would find out ourselves. That would just convince people more that Bioware is now untrustworthy. Very counterproductive.

Damage control and publicity.  That was the whole point of that Walters post yesterday.

[Carnage752]

Olueq wrote...

I still think we are all getting trolled.

We can hope eh? People do have quite a hate boner for the game. If they come out with videos of the endings instead of pictures I'm done.

[Carnage752]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Wouldn't be the first time a developer has either mislead or straight up lied in the first month.

Little point in it though. The game comes out in 6 days, so we would find out ourselves. That would just convince people more that Bioware is now untrustworthy. Very counterproductive.

Damage control and publicity.  That was the whole point of that Walters post yesterday.

We will agree to disagree, though I do agree with you on Walter's post.

[jeinasindorei]

littlemo130 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

littlemo130 wrote...



This is what Michael Gamble is doing to us. How does it feel?

Quit trolling dude. This is a post on logic, not your ****ing childish behavior.

We all know otherwise.  Producers and writers are just in damage control now.  Relax your anus please.

I wasn't aware "We" had all played the game multiple times through to see the endings.

[Shatterhand1701]

 You know, I'm wondering if all of these people complaining about there only being three endings understand that there was essentially only one ending for ME1:

1. Sovereign is destroyed.

The variables, such as Destiny Ascension being destroyed or not, Saren being persuaded to kill himself, who you pick to be the human representative on the council, etc. flesh out that ending, but no matter what those variables are, the ending is the same.

There were basically two endings for ME2:

1. Collector Base is destroyed.
2. Collector Base is neutralized for possible future use by Cerberus.

Who lived or died were just variations within those two endings based on choices made earlier in the game.

It would've surprised me greatly if ME3 was that much different in how the ending was handled.  3 endings with variables seems rather generous when one stops to think about it.

Modifié par Shatterhand1701, 29 février 2012 - 10:08 .

[Carnage752]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

 You know, I'm wondering if all of these people complaining about there only being three endings understand that there was essentially only one ending for ME1:

1. Sovereign is destroyed.

The variables, such as Destiny Ascension being destroyed or not, Saren being persuaded to kill himself, who you pick to be the human representative on the council, etc. flesh out that ending, but no matter what those variables are, the ending is the same.

There were basically two endings for ME2:

1. Collector Base is destroyed.
2. Collector Base is neutralized for possible future use by Cerberus.

Who lived or died were just variations within those two endings based on choices made earlier in the game.

It would've surprised me greatly if ME3 was that much different in how the ending was handled.  3 endings with variables seems rather generous when one stops to think about it.

The thing is though, this is the last of the series. This is when the variables should count. The leaked endings should have had more variety, including the Reapers winning and a perfect ending (And no I'm not talking about the merge crap. That's far-fetched to me that that's considered the "perfect ending"). Plus they promised us widely branching endings because this is the last of the trilogy.

[Hyrist]

According to the hodgepoge of leaked info, the modifiers are pretty big in and of themselves, and take in a specific decision in previous games as part of its modifier, as well as your readiness level.

So you have 3 factors weighing in on your ending.

1. Your Readiness level - if you don't get this high enough, you don't get a choice, period. It also effects your choices up to a certain level even if you get it within a certain span.

2. The "Final Decision" you make. This generally effects what "Cutscene." You end with and the general consequencs. This is the 'three major paths' your ending can take based directly on your choice and is modified by 1 and 3. One of the choice endings isn't effected by either modifier, by knowable accounts thus far.

3. Past choice/quests. Depending on 2, it can be different things. One of them lowers the 'readiness level' requirement for one specific modifier, the other is decided for you if you didn't import ME2, and is based off of a decision there if you did.


The mysterious 7th Ending seems to be an Epilogue rather than 'an ending.'

[Carnage752]

Hyrist wrote...

According to the hodgepoge of leaked info, the modifiers are pretty big in and of themselves, and take in a specific decision in previous games as part of its modifier, as well as your readiness level.

So you have 3 factors weighing in on your ending.

1. Your Readiness level - if you don't get this high enough, you don't get a choice, period. It also effects your choices up to a certain level even if you get it within a certain span.

2. The "Final Decision" you make. This generally effects what "Cutscene." You end with and the general consequencs. This is the 'three major paths' your ending can take based directly on your choice and is modified by 1 and 3. One of the choice endings isn't effected by either modifier, by knowable accounts thus far.

3. Past choice/quests. Depending on 2, it can be different things. One of them lowers the 'readiness level' requirement for one specific modifier, the other is decided for you if you didn't import ME2, and is based off of a decision there if you did.


The mysterious 7th Ending seems to be an Epilogue rather than 'an ending.'

Your point? No offense but...

[D.Shepard]

I finished to read it just few minutes ago and I was very pleased to read
"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

I still hope I'll get a "rewarding ending". I trust the choices I made and I'll make.... well in the other case there is always the game strategy guide

Modifié par D.Shepard, 29 février 2012 - 10:24 .

[Hyrist]

It was more of an explanation of how variant the endings actually are, rather than a 'point'.

Also according to one source, one of your requested endings is there, perhaps not in the form you want it to be in, however.

The variables count. Your decisions in previous games add up, literally in some cases. One specific previous decision has a direct impact on the ending modifiers. The rest are sort of lumped together, but they are there.

[Shatterhand1701]

I guess what I'd really like to hear from these people freaking out over this is:  what were you expecting?  Seriously; no snark or sarcasm intended.  What were these people expecting for an ending?  And I don't mean general stuff like, "for our choices to matter".  They already matter; very much so in fact, but some choices may affect the game in more subtle ways than other choices, and I suspect a lot of the butthurt going on is over not seeing more specific resolutions to certain plotpoints.

I'd really like to know what specific things people were hoping to get closure/resolution on, or what kinds of endings (in a more general sense) they were hoping for.

[spikethedevil2]

Hyrist wrote...

It was more of an explanation of how variant the endings actually are, rather than a 'point'.

Also according to one source, one of your requested endings is there, perhaps not in the form you want it to be in, however.

The variables count. Your decisions in previous games add up, literally in some cases. One specific previous decision has a direct impact on the ending modifiers. The rest are sort of lumped together, but they are there.

which ending is that?

[Cyricsservant101]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

I guess what I'd really like to hear from these people freaking out over this is:  what were you expecting?  Seriously; no snark or sarcasm intended.  What were these people expecting for an ending?  And I don't mean general stuff like, "for our choices to matter".  They already matter; very much so in fact, but some choices may affect the game in more subtle ways than other choices, and I suspect a lot of the butthurt going on is over not seeing more specific resolutions to certain plotpoints.

I'd really like to know what specific things people were hoping to get closure/resolution on, or what kinds of endings (in a more general sense) they were hoping for.

I can only speak for myself.

I kind of assumed the perfect ending would be:

- Millions... possibly billions dead
- Earth damaged, but not ruined
- Intergalactic travel still a possibility
- Maybe a few alien races wiped out, or nearly wiped out
- Shep and most of the Normandy crew surviving, including Shep's LI, with everyone helping to rebuild
- Some dialogue between Shep and his squadmates

That's what I was expecting.   A bittersweet ending, basically.

Modifié par Cyricsservant101, 29 février 2012 - 11:19 .

[CptBomBom00]

if there are many different endings, maybe the leak ones are just standard ones if you don't import the save from 1 to 2 from to 3, and maybe the perfect ending is the one that can be achieved by a import.

[spikethedevil2]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

if there are many different endings, maybe the leak ones are just standard ones if you don't import the save from 1 to 2 from to 3, and maybe the perfect ending is the one that can be achieved by a import.

Maybe. we will have to find out.

and saving before the point of no return FTW (aka after final romance scene) there boom you can explore the galaxy till your hearts content