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[D.Kain]

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Obidex wrote...

Even if that is legit....soldier is just so...boring. I realize that is just me but I would rather an Infil or Vanguard over a soldier every time.

Perhaps more boring sure. I am talking pure killing ability. 

And that is important in a Mass Effect game because...? And here I thought fun is more important than stats.

Well it's fun to kill things fast. Makes you fell good and powerful. 

Then play casual.

But that's boring, there is no chalange. I like to kill fast and die fast if I make a mistake. 

[HTTP 404]

obviously adept isn't for you. play a different class. whats the point of this thread again?

[SnakeStrike8]

I have to admit I found myself using my guns much more as a ME 3 adept than I did as a ME 2 adept. That was one of the things I thought ME 2 did rather well; adepts in ME 1 still had to rely on guns to kill things. The biotics helped speed it along a little, but it still came down to the shooting. Not so for ME 2 adepts, but it looks like ME 3 is going back to ME 1's way of biotics usage.

[D.Kain]

HTTP 404 wrote...

obviously adept isn't for you. play a different class. whats the point of this thread again?

Yep, not anymore. Was my one and only favorite class back in the old days, now is gimped down, or should I say is STILL gimped, started in ME2. 

But the point of the thread is just to see how other people feel about it. 

[D.Kain]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

I have to admit I found myself using my guns much more as a ME 3 adept than I did as a ME 2 adept. That was one of the things I thought ME 2 did rather well; adepts in ME 1 still had to rely on guns to kill things. The biotics helped speed it along a little, but it still came down to the shooting. Not so for ME 2 adepts, but it looks like ME 3 is going back to ME 1's way of biotics usage.

Well actually biotics in ME1 mostly killed things, not supported weapons. It came to shooting when biotics were on cooldown. I remember when I got into a room with 3 people, took out my gun, made a biotic throw, smashed all three OHKO, put the gun away. It was mostly like that.

[Doom Lich]

Biotic powers? I don't need a damn chip in my brain to do my work. My fireballs burn enemies just fine thanks.

Techies unite!

[deadshame]

I've never really been too much of a fan of biotics. Even though I played a sentinel and vanguard quite a bit. I always liked the tech side of combat. I really liked the infiltrator in ME1, it seemed like the least played next to engineer. Then came ME2 and everyone and their mother started playing infiltrator because it was so overpowered in that game. I am excited to play an adept though in ME3, hopefully it won't be as screwed as some people are making it out to be.

[SnakeStrike8]

D.Kain wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

I have to admit I found myself using my guns much more as a ME 3 adept than I did as a ME 2 adept. That was one of the things I thought ME 2 did rather well; adepts in ME 1 still had to rely on guns to kill things. The biotics helped speed it along a little, but it still came down to the shooting. Not so for ME 2 adepts, but it looks like ME 3 is going back to ME 1's way of biotics usage.

Well actually biotics in ME1 mostly killed things, not supported weapons. It came to shooting when biotics were on cooldown. I remember when I got into a room with 3 people, took out my gun, made a biotic throw, smashed all three OHKO, put the gun away. It was mostly like that.

I can't remember ever doing that.MAybe occasionally when the soldier types/ geth destroyers would run at you waving shotguns, but enemies generally spread out as soon as me and my mates strode into their homes and ran for the nearest chest-high wall.
Maybe I was just doing it wrong.

[Ecmoose]

Okay you need to explain in the original post that you modded, otherwise it sounds like you just did the math in your head.

[D.Kain]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

I have to admit I found myself using my guns much more as a ME 3 adept than I did as a ME 2 adept. That was one of the things I thought ME 2 did rather well; adepts in ME 1 still had to rely on guns to kill things. The biotics helped speed it along a little, but it still came down to the shooting. Not so for ME 2 adepts, but it looks like ME 3 is going back to ME 1's way of biotics usage.

Well actually biotics in ME1 mostly killed things, not supported weapons. It came to shooting when biotics were on cooldown. I remember when I got into a room with 3 people, took out my gun, made a biotic throw, smashed all three OHKO, put the gun away. It was mostly like that.

I can't remember ever doing that.MAybe occasionally when the soldier types/ geth destroyers would run at you waving shotguns, but enemies generally spread out as soon as me and my mates strode into their homes and ran for the nearest chest-high wall.
Maybe I was just doing it wrong.

Spread out? Oh please ME1 singularity catches everyone like sugar/flies: Youtube.   

Modifié par D.Kain, 01 mars 2012 - 04:17 .

[muse108]

D.Kain wrote...

muse108 wrote...

demo was bad in this regard. All most people will carry with their biotic/tech builds is 1 or 2 weapons. Personally on my pure biotic I will only be using a pistol or smg. Vanguard, only a shotgun. The recharge speeds are fine once you take away most of the weapons.

OMFG. I lost it. 

I TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE RECHARGE SPEEDS, AND REDUCED THEM. Is this clear? My recharge speeds for biotics were fast in the demo, I modded the game, and maxed all powers as well for insanity, I wrote it all in OP.

Eh? each to his own then, enjoy playing the soldier while I just Chager + Nova my way to victory. I garentee you I can kill stuff  faster in MP at least than you ever could as a soldier. And I got bored with the shotgun, made it too easy, now I just have the lightest pistol as I never use it.

[D.Kain]

muse108 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

muse108 wrote...

demo was bad in this regard. All most people will carry with their biotic/tech builds is 1 or 2 weapons. Personally on my pure biotic I will only be using a pistol or smg. Vanguard, only a shotgun. The recharge speeds are fine once you take away most of the weapons.

OMFG. I lost it. 

I TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE RECHARGE SPEEDS, AND REDUCED THEM. Is this clear? My recharge speeds for biotics were fast in the demo, I modded the game, and maxed all powers as well for insanity, I wrote it all in OP.

Eh? each to his own then, enjoy playing the soldier while I just Chager + Nova my way to victory. I garentee you I can kill stuff  faster in MP at least than you ever could as a soldier. And I got bored with the shotgun, made it too easy, now I just have the lightest pistol as I never use it.

Something wrong with your post. Know what? The bold part. As I said before, due to a different power setup and different evolutions/passives, one SP soldier can outgun two MP soldiers. 

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

Geth colossus...Prazza...does not compute.

Lol, messed the names. What was that other guys name? I don't remeber. Anyway he was armed with a rocket launcher. 

[fropas]

I'm not surprised a maxed out Soldier is better than maxed adept--you don't even have skills like Stasis or Biotic focus yet, so maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions OP.

Loved ME1 Adept for all the reasons D.Kain stated, but ME2 & 3 put a premium on the ability to remove enemy protections, so I'll play a sentinel on my first playthrough. I don't really like gun classes though, so once I figure out which squad mates to bring as support for missions I'll switch back to adept.

I like to challenge myself when I replay a game, so soldier is the most boring class unless they give you the option to solo the game.

[D.Kain]

Ecmoose wrote...

Okay you need to explain in the original post that you modded, otherwise it sounds like you just did the math in your head.

Well as I said. 

I did this for all classes: 

 

Then removed the gimping cooldowns from weapons, so that adepts and vanguards can spam their crap. And Soldier came out the strongest class on Insanity. 

Again SP soldier is VERY different from MP soldiers. 

[D.Kain]

fropas wrote...

I'm not surprised a maxed out Soldier is better than maxed adept--you don't even have skills like Stasis or Biotic focus yet, so maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions OP.

 

Wait I am supposed to relly on bonus powers? I can add Stasis bubble to my soldier too you know. 

Edit: Though, MAYBE biotic focus can make some difference. Not sure.

Modifié par D.Kain, 01 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[fropas]

D.Kain wrote...

fropas wrote...

I'm not surprised a maxed out Soldier is better than maxed adept--you don't even have skills like Stasis or Biotic focus yet, so maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions OP.

 

Wait I am supposed to relly on bonus powers? I can add Stasis bubble to my soldier too you know. 

I'm sorry did you play Adept on insanity in ME2? Adept was garbage without Stasis, and I don't want to judge the Adept in ME3 until I get my hands on Biotic Focus, but that's just my opinion. By all means rely on wonderful skills like "Biotic Grenade"

Modifié par fropas, 01 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[D.Kain]

fropas wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

fropas wrote...

I'm not surprised a maxed out Soldier is better than maxed adept--you don't even have skills like Stasis or Biotic focus yet, so maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions OP.

 

Wait I am supposed to relly on bonus powers? I can add Stasis bubble to my soldier too you know. 

I'm sorry do you play Adept on insanity in ME2? Adept was garbage without Stasis, and I don't want to judge the Adept in ME3 until I get my hands on Biotic Focus, but that's just my opinion. By all means rely on wonderful skills like "Biotic Grenade"

Yes thank you for pointing out that Adept in ME2 was crap too. 

But yeah I will take the thouht about biotic focus seriously. 

[ShykeX]

D.Kain wrote...

Ecmoose wrote...

Okay you need to explain in the original post that you modded, otherwise it sounds like you just did the math in your head.

Well as I said. 

I did this for all classes: 

 

Then removed the gimping cooldowns from weapons, so that adepts and vanguards can spam their crap. And Soldier came out the strongest class on Insanity. 

Again SP soldier is VERY different from MP soldiers. 

Toss some math at me would ya?

[D.Kain]

ShykeX wrote...

Toss some math at me would ya?

Like what exactly? I don't get it.

[Ecmoose]

D.Kain wrote...

Ecmoose wrote...

Okay you need to explain in the original post that you modded, otherwise it sounds like you just did the math in your head.

Well as I said. 

I did this for all classes: 

 

Then removed the gimping cooldowns from weapons, so that adepts and vanguards can spam their crap. And Soldier came out the strongest class on Insanity. 

Again SP soldier is VERY different from MP soldiers. 

Yeah, but because you don't explain that in your original post you're going to keep getting people who misdunderstand you.

You keep getting pissy because no one gets what you're saying, but you didn't provide enough info until the second page. That's pretty dumb.

As a side note: were you able to mod in bonus powers? Because that will totally change class utility for anything after the first play through.

Modifié par Ecmoose, 01 mars 2012 - 04:35 .

[Deaddude56]

I want to be a biotic now! I especially am looking forward to playing as an adept. Between the biotic explosions and the newly re-vamped stasis, I just don't know if I will be able to stay away!