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[D.Kain]

Ecmoose wrote...

As a side note: were you able to mod in bonus powers? Because that will totally change class utility for anything after the first play through.

Well actually the only thing that can really change things might be the biotic focus. Because just now I can spam stasis bubble with maxed Liara, and detonate in in 3 sec pretending it was my char who made the bubble. Still soldier is better so far. 

[fropas]

Goddamn you D. Kain for reminding me how awesome Biotics were in ME1. . .I'm going to be fuming all night. You're totally right it's bull**** that I have to rely on bonus skills to make my adept good.

[dreman9999]

 Um...you did it wrong....Play the mp to see what biotic classes can do....They're overpowered monsters now.

Modifié par dreman9999, 01 mars 2012 - 04:39 .

[Abisco]

D.Kain wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Warp explosions will dominate insanity. Especially if you have Liara doing the same thing.

Done. Soldier still better.

Didn't read the thread, but did you play multiplayer? The single player is a really bad indicator of the adepts potential since the cooldowns are too much. The multiplayer on the other hand lets you really see how the skills work together. The adept is just too damn good, being able to take anything on with biotic explosions in multiplayer on gold. 

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

 Um...you did it wrong....Play the mp to see what biotic classes can do....They're overpowered monsters now.

Firstly I am talking about Shepard and SP. Second no, biotics are not OP in MP it is only the asari adept that is OP because of stasis, other biotics suck in comparison.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

shannonrw wrote...

It's not gonna be like that in the real game. The recharge times will be back to normal, provided you don't carry all the guns with you at once. They made you carry them all, I think it was so people could see how all the guns worked.

D.Kain wrote...

...took into account the slower cooldown of biotics due to extra useless weapons included, and reduced the cooldowns....

 

Guys just lol. 

No, you haven't...You can't see the effects of the cooldown time of Powers In the sp....Play the mp and you'll see your wrong.

[D.Kain]

Abisco wrote...

Didn't read the thread, but did you play multiplayer? The single player is a really bad indicator of the adepts potential since the cooldowns are too much. The multiplayer on the other hand lets you really see how the skills work together. The adept is just too damn good, being able to take anything on with biotic explosions in multiplayer on gold. 

I not only played MP, but I am N7 120 and have completed Gold with all classes and soloed silver with most. 

MP is completely different. In MP Asari adept is the best so far yes, I have already pointed that out. But biotics in MP suck too, it is only the asari adept that is awesome, followed by Salarian infiltrator, and maybe human vanguard. Human Adept sucks in comparison, and MP soldier sucks even more. 

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

No, you haven't...You can't see the effects of the cooldown time of Powers In the sp....Play the mp and you'll see your wrong.

Yeah, read the above post.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 Um...you did it wrong....Play the mp to see what biotic classes can do....They're overpowered monsters now.

Firstly I am talking about Shepard and SP. Second no, biotics are not OP in MP it is only the asari adept that is OP because of stasis, other biotics suck in comparison.

Someone hasn't spammed Throw for the hell of it.

I spam throw as an Asari adept, but it is only effective against assault troopers. Warp/Throw, Stasis/Throw combo is a whole different talk. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 01 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Abisco wrote...
Didn't read the thread, but did you play multiplayer? The single player is a really bad indicator of the adepts potential since the cooldowns are too much. The multiplayer on the other hand lets you really see how the skills work together. The adept is just too damn good, being able to take anything on with biotic explosions in multiplayer on gold. 

Multiplayer doesn't show the true power of soldier.

[HolyAvenger]

"Better" is subjective. I don't know how you're measuring, but I guarantee I will feel differently.

I can shoot in any game, but biotics and tech powers are what make ME.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 Um...you did it wrong....Play the mp to see what biotic classes can do....They're overpowered monsters now.

Firstly I am talking about Shepard and SP. Second no, biotics are not OP in MP it is only the asari adept that is OP because of stasis, other biotics suck in comparison.

Shepard going to have an even faster cooldown time in the sp then any of the mo characters. Add in the fact that you can combo powers and tactic with characters on your team and it will be a face roll with biotics.

Also, yes all biotics are op in the mp. Build them up right and use them correctly and and you'll see that all bioticsare monsters. My human adept only goes into battle with a pistol and dominates everything.

And your saying you max out all the powers and tested them out in the sp? Are you forgeting that biotic are strongest comboed and in the demo you can max 2 at a time at most in the sp?
Do you understand that biotics lare built aroung biotic explotions, cc, and dot?
And you think maxing 2powers at a time in the limited sp demo will show you everything the classes haveto offer?

Did you try these combos for biotic detinations?

Warp+throw
stasis+throw
singularity+throw
Pull+throw
singularity+warp
pull+warp
stasis+warp
stasis+shockwave
singularity+shockwave
warp+shockwave
singularity+charge
pull+charge
warp+charge
Stasis+charge
....
Note:all these combos do biotic explotions.

And you say you basing your judgement on the gimped part of the demo?...Ha.

Biotics are liquid AOE in ME3. I sudgest you learn how biotics are used before making comments like these.

[D.Kain]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Multiplayer doesn't show the true power of soldier.

This. 


Let's just compare:


MP soldier Adrenaline rush:
50% damage bonus to weapons.
no dialation.

SP soldier Adrenaline rush:
75% damage bonus to weapons
45% dialation. Could be turned into speed, but what basically means - shoot 2 times faster. 

What do we get from shooting 2 times faster? Multiple by 2. 

What do we get? 

MP soldier 50% bonus < SP soldier 150% bonus. 

SP soldier is 3x stronger. 

And don't get me started on ammo powers, that MP soldier doesn't even have, it will SKY ROCKET on SP soldiers damage output.

[ShykeX]

D.Kain wrote...

ShykeX wrote...

Toss some math at me would ya?

Like what exactly? I don't get it.

DPS of different classes.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 Um...you did it wrong....Play the mp to see what biotic classes can do....They're overpowered monsters now.

Firstly I am talking about Shepard and SP. Second no, biotics are not OP in MP it is only the asari adept that is OP because of stasis, other biotics suck in comparison.

Someone hasn't spammed Throw for the hell of it.

I spam throw as an Asari adept, but it is only effective against assault troopers. Warp/Throw, Stasis/Throw combo is a whole different talk. 

It's effective ageints almot everything. It has a stun effect and is spammable. It can be comboed with warp for a biotic bomb.

[D.Kain]

I don't know what to say to you drema9999. It's like you haven't read anything that was posted on this thread.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Multiplayer doesn't show the true power of soldier.

This. 


Let's just compare:


MP soldier Adrenaline rush:
50% damage bonus to weapons.
no dialation.

SP soldier Adrenaline rush:
75% damage bonus to weapons
45% dialation. Could be turned into speed, but what basically means - shoot 2 times faster. 

What do we get from shooting 2 times faster? Multiple by 2. 

What do we get? 

MP soldier 50% bonus < SP soldier 150% bonus. 

SP soldier is 3x stronger. 

And don't get me started on ammo powers, that MP soldier doesn't even have, it will SKY ROCKET on SP soldiers damage output.

You do realise that soilders are just a pure dps class and it can only kill one thing at a time, right?

An adept would have blown up hordes of squads of enemies in the same time a soilder would have killed a few.

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

I don't know what to say to you drema9999. It's like you haven't read anything that was posted on this thread.

It's more like you just don't know how biotics work in ME3.

You compearing a  pure dps class to classes basedon aoe and say it better without considering what make the classes different.

[Kloreep]

Tactical Cloak has certainly been sweet to play with in MP. If anything was going to convince me to change to a non-biotic class, it's the Infiltrator. I think I'll be sticking with Sentinel though. I'm a Tech Armor fan since ME2.

Engineer is actually starting to look pretty good too, though. I just looked at their SP power listing and saw that ShepEng gets both Turret and Drone. Can ShepEng actually deploy both at the same time? Wow.

Modifié par Kloreep, 01 mars 2012 - 05:04 .

[D.Kain]

dreman9999 wrote...

You do realise that soilders are just a pure dps class and it can only kill one thing at a time, right?

An adept would have blown up hordes of squads of enemies in the same time a soilder would have killed a few.

You do realize that Adept is ( was ) my favorite class through out all ME series, and that I know how to do all biotic combos effectively and that I have completed gold with Adepts in MP, and that I have soloed solo with Adepts in MP, and that I have leveled Adept in SP maxing out all powers, and that I say soldier is stronger? 

[SilencedScream]

So...what's the point of this thread?
I see few people actually siding with you; I'm just seeing your determination to defend the way you prefer to play.
Let people play how they enjoy playing across the board, no issues for anyone.

[TheItalianSnip3r]

Nope love my Adept

[dreman9999]

D.Kain wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

You do realise that soilders are just a pure dps class and it can only kill one thing at a time, right?

An adept would have blown up hordes of squads of enemies in the same time a soilder would have killed a few.

You do realize that Adept is ( was ) my favorite class through out all ME series, and that I know how to do all biotic combos effectively and that I have completed gold with Adepts in MP, and that I have soloed solo with Adepts in MP, and that I have leveled Adept in SP maxing out all powers, and that I say soldier is stronger? 

The fact that you think throw is a bad power in ME3 showthatyou really don't know how to use the class. 
The point is you looking at how the dps work for each class wrong...And then their the enemiesyou face....

If you soloed the mp with an adept in the mp....Which setting is more difficult then the sp...It should be clear that biotic are stronger now. 

Every attack does massive amounts of area of effect  like they always did, and your looking to compare single target dps?
That makes no sense.

Modifié par dreman9999, 01 mars 2012 - 05:24 .

[BuffPhantoms]

Did you max throw for final damage evolution and cd reset on detonation? Do you have Liara spammin stasis?

I don't see how a 1 sec cd nuke that CCs with aoe splash damage, constant aoe explosions, and great CC can be that bad.