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[Hendrik3]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Hendrik3 wrote...

Seriously, the panic on this forum is painful to read.
So they found a few vids with bad endings... *shrug* sure, if you mess up your playthrough the crap is going to hit the fan... and that includes dramatic cinematics with the entire galaxy getting messed up.

My gut feeling says there are choice-related happy endings, like in ME2. Proof? I have none. Why? Because you can't make cinematics for choice related endings for every combination of LI and every casualty along the way, and you can't really datamine it. You can only find out about the fixed endings, like for not-imported quick playthroughs. I'm sticking to the BW employee interviews and believe ME3 will be a stunner based on choices from ME1 and 2 - up to the end.

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A response? No, we won't get one. Unless they actually see a few thousand cancelled preorders, which isn't going to happen.

Both Luke, Darth, and The Emperor die, the explosion kills everything... Meh...

It might.... lol

I wish

Quite some information will come from the imported games. Does Wrex live? Did you let the Rachni queen live? You can't take part three, take it apart and say THESE ARE THE ENDINGS!!! Yes, if you don't import an old save and play from zero - you're probably screwed. I wouldn't be too disheartened by the doomsayers, the guys who made the game have made statements that counter what people on this forum are ranting about. Take a step back, breathe and think about it. 

DA2 was rushed, ME3 has been postponed for months because they wanted it to be perfect. Mass Effect is their baby, and they want people to still play it years from now. Making just a handful fixed endings destroys the replay value of the entire series, of which they said they might want to follow up on, just not with Shepard.

[Sargerus]

the fans are complaining ONLY because in the end Shep doesnt have a huge sex orgy with his squadmates after defeating the reapers

[laststarfighter]

Dasher1010 wrote...

Bioware's silence on the subject proves that they deserve all the crap that fans give them, including the guy who crapped on the Space Edition.

I'm sure Bioware will make some sort of response after the official release date. Naturally, they are not saying anything official until the game is actually out!

[squee365]

Sargerus wrote...

the fans are complaining ONLY because in the end Shep doesnt have a huge sex orgy with his squadmates after defeating the reapers

Yeah...I actually think the endings are INTERESTING. Although that may be a blasphemous thought around here.

[Hendrik3]

^ They are. The choice between Kaiden and Ash was a complete surprise on my first ME1 playthrough because that simply showed the true stakes, you WILL lose valued crew. ME2 lacked that sort of moment until the suicide mission. On my first playthrough Kelly was dissolved before my eyes, Tali was shot in the face when closing that door and Zaeed died as a team leader.

ME has never been about love and romance (it just adds a personal note, and was well done in some cases) and the ME3 endings we now know of are - imho - only the worst case scenario's: ruthless, painful, dramatic and final. This will befall you when that's how you play. That makes it interesting indeed.

[Ostagar2011]

I wonder if the miserable endings have a deeper meaning, Maybe they are an allegory of the predicament BioWare are in? Happy ending: fans hate you for cliche 'hero rides off into the sunset and they lived happily ever after' - depressing ending: fans hate you for bursting their bubble. Lose lose. So now you, the player, gets a taste of BioWare's predicament.

(or am I reading too much into it?)

[Tazzmission]

anyone think that maybe regarding script changes may in fact be the endings?

me personally i like what they are but it is a thought

[FlyingWalrus]

Unato wrote...

i don't see BW winning

if they say no... and it turns out to be only half true or w/e then they will be lying. alternatively someone out there will pick apart BW's comment and eventually come to the same conclusion, i.e. they are lying when they said the no the leaks are false

if they say yes... they will be confirming a spoiler which if i remembered correctly has never ever happened

if they say nothing... people will continue to rage and create conspiracy theories which happens regardless anyway

Really now? I only see Bioware winning.

ME3 will sell extremely well in spite of the most cynical fantasies of the average troglodyte on this board. They account for only one piece of the puzzle and they make the mistake in thinking that EVERYONE cares about how it's going to end. Most people don't care about how a movie, book or game ends -- they care about how they got there, which is where the real judgment of ME's legacy will lie.

For completing the trilogy and interconnecting all three chapters, while polishing and making new all things as they went along, Bioware will receive accolades aplenty for crafting one of the most sweeping science fiction RPGs in the history of gaming. The naysayer can cry out "GAMING JURNALIZM" but the fact that this will come from the average fan will more than make their cries those of delusion and desperation.

Bioware listened as far as gameplay concerns went and made the appropriate updates, even going far beyond what was expected and creating a system better than the previous two games' individual systems. But now some want Bioware to cater to them storywise, too? The audacity of that is not even funny. It is pitiable.

[Aesieru]

D-roy wrote...

if you wish to discuss the endings, please use the thread already made for it.
http://social.biowar.../index/9512916 

Also, please don't respond to spam threads, people. Thank you.

End of line.

Impersonating a moderator or BioWare staff member is a violation of the code of conduct and terms of service.

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In any case, they won't say anything until AFTER the game is released, and they never said anything about DA2 anyway so don't hold your breath.

[Aesieru]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

Unato wrote...

i don't see BW winning

if they say no... and it turns out to be only half true or w/e then they will be lying. alternatively someone out there will pick apart BW's comment and eventually come to the same conclusion, i.e. they are lying when they said the no the leaks are false

if they say yes... they will be confirming a spoiler which if i remembered correctly has never ever happened

if they say nothing... people will continue to rage and create conspiracy theories which happens regardless anyway

Really now? I only see Bioware winning.

ME3 will sell extremely well in spite of the most cynical fantasies of the average troglodyte on this board. They account for only one piece of the puzzle and they make the mistake in thinking that EVERYONE cares about how it's going to end. Most people don't care about how a movie, book or game ends -- they care about how they got there, which is where the real judgment of ME's legacy will lie.

For completing the trilogy and interconnecting all three chapters, while polishing and making new all things as they went along, Bioware will receive accolades aplenty for crafting one of the most sweeping science fiction RPGs in the history of gaming. The naysayer can cry out "GAMING JURNALIZM" but the fact that this will come from the average fan will more than make their cries those of delusion and desperation.

Bioware listened as far as gameplay concerns went and made the appropriate updates, even going far beyond what was expected and creating a system better than the previous two games' individual systems. But now some want Bioware to cater to them storywise, too? The audacity of that is not even funny. It is pitiable.

To be honest, their ability to tell stories is what people know them for, it has definitely worsened over the past many years and especially with their joining with EA, and they aren't really taking responsibility or acknowledging that.

Also, in terms of their story, if they make a cheap-ending it is entirely unselfish to be disappointed with something we've dedicated many hours to.

[Eclipse_9990]

I wonder how long it will take for Bioware to answer our questions.. I also wonder how long it will take for this tread to be locked. 

Dasher1010 wrote...

Bioware's silence on the subject proves that they deserve all the crap that fans give them, including the guy who crapped on the Space Edition.

Well now I'm curious. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 03 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[Unender]

im sure bioware is trying to figure out how to make the people who didn't like the endings happier. probably even writing new ones that they will include in a patch for free. bioware is committed to making their games to be great.

I on the other hand saw the reasoning behind the way they wrote the ending. I have written several stories that ended this way to see what kind of reaction i would get from my readers. it always makes me happy to see people get so emotionally invested that they're mourning fictional characters. it's a good thing by my perspective and probably by bioware's too.