If Bioware wanted to avoid the backlash
#26
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 06:47
#27
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 06:55
Well if you strand the NOrmandy crew on some deserted world how else can they act? Just sit there and die quietly? That's just nature to breed for any species and the crew would be no different - in this particlar case after the first lot of kids there would have to be inbreeding of so small a numbers as the Normandy crew. Or as in ME2 someone exerts total control - its not the fan base fault blame BW for this idiocy!Nathan Redgrave wrote...
Why, for the love of God, does "inbreeding" always come up...?
#28
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 06:56
Good lord, this isn't too much to ask.
#29
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 06:57
#30
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 06:57
albertalad wrote...
Well if you strand the NOrmandy crew on some deserted world how else can they act? Just sit there and die quietly? That's just nature to breed for any species and the crew would be no different - in this particlar case after the first lot of kids there would have to be inbreeding of so small a numbers as the Normandy crew. Or as in ME2 someone exerts total control - its not the fan base fault blame BW for this idiocy!Nathan Redgrave wrote...
Why, for the love of God, does "inbreeding" always come up...?
also, didn't 1 of the leaked videos show an adult and a deformed child starring at a distant planet??
#31
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:00
Bigdoser wrote...
Yup if bioware just made the normandy crash land on earth i think all the rage will be mitigated.
Truth
#32
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:01
#33
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:33
But we dont know that. Not even seeable in me1/2 where lesser crewmembers were basically just placeholders. Operators, with zero servicemen. Thats not possible. Normandy must have alot more people. So a new colony is very possible, and starting it on Earth, really now that would be a pointless loop indeed, as we humans already did that. Basically it would make for some crappy movie where X came, destroyed civiliziation, and we start anew with all the junk left behind, space travel not even needed.Zyrious wrote...
Not only are there not enough people on the normandy to actually start a colony, but there arent even half as many females needed to pair off even half the crew.
#34
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:43
ncknck wrote...
But we dont know that. Not even seeable in me1/2 where lesser crewmembers were basically just placeholders. Operators, with zero servicemen. Thats not possible. Normandy must have alot more people. So a new colony is very possible, and starting it on Earth, really now that would be a pointless loop indeed, as we humans already did that. Basically it would make for some crappy movie where X came, destroyed civiliziation, and we start anew with all the junk left behind, space travel not even needed.Zyrious wrote...
Not only are there not enough people on the normandy to actually start a colony, but there arent even half as many females needed to pair off even half the crew.
The concept of a phoenix rising out of the ashes is a poetic one, rebuilding rather than just being stranded out in the middle of nowhere building a random colony with less than 50 people where a single disastor would wipe out the colony. There's already dozens of human colonies that will be doing that. Besides, like i said, the most poetic of endings would be to see the normandy on Earth, watching the tattered remains of human, asari, turian, and everyone else on Earth working together to find survivors and begin rebuilding anew after all the chaos. A Missed opportunity indeed.
And in the end it only has to be one of many endings, rather than having all endings be - normandy screwed, shepard dead or wishing he was.
Modifié par Zyrious, 01 mars 2012 - 07:51 .
#35
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:49
#36
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:51
Zyrious wrote...
ncknck wrote...
But we dont know that. Not even seeable in me1/2 where lesser crewmembers were basically just placeholders. Operators, with zero servicemen. Thats not possible. Normandy must have alot more people. So a new colony is very possible, and starting it on Earth, really now that would be a pointless loop indeed, as we humans already did that. Basically it would make for some crappy movie where X came, destroyed civiliziation, and we start anew with all the junk left behind, space travel not even needed.Zyrious wrote...
Not only are there not enough people on the normandy to actually start a colony, but there arent even half as many females needed to pair off even half the crew.
The concept of a phoenix rising out of the ashes is a poetic one, learning from your mistakes and rebuilding rather than just being stranded out in the middle of nowhere building a random colony with less than 50 people where a single disastor would wipe out the colony. There's already dozens of human colonies that will be doing that. Besides, like i said, the most poetic of endings would be to see the normandy on Earth, watching the tattered remains of human, asari, turian, and everyone else on Earth working together to find survivors and begin rebuilding anew after all the chaos. A Missed opportunity indeed.
And in the end it only has to be one of many endings, rather than having all endings be - normandy screwed, shepard dead or wishing he was.
In the end, people just want closure over these characters that they have invested so much time and emotions in.
#37
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:52
What bioware does here reminds me of Joss Whedons attitude towards characters the fans like. It is exactly the same cheap, ****ty way to add "drama".MouseNo4 wrote...
I have to seriously ask... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT of stranding the Normandy and crew? What POSSIBLE PLOT SERVICE DOES IT PROVIDE??
End rant.
#38
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:52
#39
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:53
ithurtz wrote...
Zyrious wrote...
ncknck wrote...
But we dont know that. Not even seeable in me1/2 where lesser crewmembers were basically just placeholders. Operators, with zero servicemen. Thats not possible. Normandy must have alot more people. So a new colony is very possible, and starting it on Earth, really now that would be a pointless loop indeed, as we humans already did that. Basically it would make for some crappy movie where X came, destroyed civiliziation, and we start anew with all the junk left behind, space travel not even needed.Zyrious wrote...
Not only are there not enough people on the normandy to actually start a colony, but there arent even half as many females needed to pair off even half the crew.
The concept of a phoenix rising out of the ashes is a poetic one, learning from your mistakes and rebuilding rather than just being stranded out in the middle of nowhere building a random colony with less than 50 people where a single disastor would wipe out the colony. There's already dozens of human colonies that will be doing that. Besides, like i said, the most poetic of endings would be to see the normandy on Earth, watching the tattered remains of human, asari, turian, and everyone else on Earth working together to find survivors and begin rebuilding anew after all the chaos. A Missed opportunity indeed.
And in the end it only has to be one of many endings, rather than having all endings be - normandy screwed, shepard dead or wishing he was.
In the end, people just want closure over these characters that they have invested so much time and emotions in.
That's the thing, the endings DO have closure. Just really bad closure (imo). It'd be one thing if thes endings were just one of many, but they are not. They have variations but that's it. Normandy crashes, crew is dead or alive, Shepard is pretty much screwed wether he lives or not so that part doesnt really matter unless there's some ingame cutscenes with him we're unaware of.
#40
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:53
Say perhaps if your Shepard lives, you have to somehow either choose to be with the normandy crew or your LI. Of course most would probably pick LI ,but say you chose the LI the two of you are stranded in a place that cannot sustain life for any substantial period of time. Shep and LI will die together shortly after the epilogue. If you choose the crew, both you and the LI are safe and can continue to live a normal life expectancy. However you are separated permanently due to the destruction of the relays.
That's the kind of bittersweet ending I may have expected.
Right now it's DEAD OR FOREVER ALONE.
Maybe when you actually play the game, however, the endings don't seem that bad. In a few days, we'll see.
Modifié par Reyno411, 01 mars 2012 - 07:55 .
#41
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:54
Dasher1010 wrote...
Bigdoser wrote...
Yup if bioware just made the normandy crash land on earth i think all the rage will be mitigated.
Truth
I do agree, back to jolly ol' England with me crew
#42
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 07:54
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
MouseNo4 wrote...
I have to seriously ask... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT of stranding the Normandy and crew? What POSSIBLE PLOT SERVICE DOES IT PROVIDE??
End rant.
Manipulation of emotions to make people feel things so they think it's a good game.
I feel like that's all Bioware's done with ME3 so far. Every trailer, even in the demo, they're like, "CHILDREN WILL DIE. THIS IS SAD."
The line "you can't help me" isn't even that captivating. But kick out Jack Wall for some melancholy piano. Suddenly: "DRAMA! ACTING! MARK MEER LEARNS [talent]!"
It's like the writers went from taking notes from Star Wars/Trek/Gate to formulating their plots in the vein of Stephanie Meyer.
#43
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:02
ncknck wrote...
crashing on Earth? Is boring. Its like.. boring. Thats like Columbus making a new colony.. in Italy. Let them start anew, new beginning.
Hell, it's not even viable for them to create a new colony from the few on the Normandy.
#44
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:03
The Makatak wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
MouseNo4 wrote...
I have to seriously ask... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT of stranding the Normandy and crew? What POSSIBLE PLOT SERVICE DOES IT PROVIDE??
End rant.
Manipulation of emotions to make people feel things so they think it's a good game.
I feel like that's all Bioware's done with ME3 so far. Every trailer, even in the demo, they're like, "CHILDREN WILL DIE. THIS IS SAD."
The line "you can't help me" isn't even that captivating. But kick out Jack Wall for some melancholy piano. Suddenly: "DRAMA! ACTING! MARK MEER LEARNS [talent]!"
It's like the writers went from taking notes from Star Wars/Trek/Gate to formulating their plots in the vein of Stephanie Meyer.
Or perhaps "CHILDREN WILL DIE. THIS HURTS YOU."
#45
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:07
DD17 Fleet
+100 War Assets
#46
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:08
#47
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:11
#48
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:16
HAHAHAHAHA
#49
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 08:18
DifferentD17 wrote...
You have my support, Though I would prefer Shep to be alive on earth as well...
DD17 Fleet
+100 War Assets
Yeah supposedly thats the good destroy ending, where shepard lives and he's back on earth (dunno how tho lol)
Just missing his LI and the normandy crew
#50
Posté 01 mars 2012 - 09:07
Natsunomiko21 wrote...
MouseNo4 wrote...
I have to seriously ask... WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT of stranding the Normandy and crew? What POSSIBLE PLOT SERVICE DOES IT PROVIDE??
End rant.
Cheap drama.
It's not cheap drama when it's the conclusion.
If they used it to sell an extra DLC that would be ano...
Oh jeez, I better not give them ideas.





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