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[smurfdude]

It has 91% of metascore, so you can rest easy in the knowledge the people who aren't biased and who aren't idiots actually say it is a very good game



It doesn't matter how good a game is, there will always be tards who give it very low scores, simply because they are trolling, they want attention, or they want to be different, or the genre simply isn't for them. Even MGS4, GTA4, Zelda OoT, they all get the occasional negative review, it'll always be the same on the internet where free speech is not restricted

[Sereaph502]

deathwing200 wrote...

kungfusam wrote...

So anyone who dislikes Dragon Age is "moth breathing, FPS playing kid"

You fanboys are just a constant source of irony and disappointment

The game isn't perfect. And yet I haven't seen anyone put forth a convincing argument or present some constructive criticism on the game's negative points.

All I see is "LOLZ THIS GAEM IS 2 HARD I R GOING BACK TO FPS LUL!!11"

Funny, because I see the same exact thing from DA:O fanbois.  Convincing argument or otherwise (how the hell do you argue an OPINION about a GAME and if you LIKE it or not?) if someone badmouths DA:O, like difficulty, they get bombarded with "U SUCK NOOB LOL GO BCK TO FPS GAMES BIOWARE IS GOD FOR MAKING A THINKING MANS GAME LOLOLOLOLOLOL"

[Tarquin Blkwd]

Hi



Long time gamer here!!!



All I have to say is..... sheet fergot what I was gonna say



Well then umm..carry on!!

[Sakluce]

Hmm, it seems the reviewer took a path in the game that was too frustrating for himself. Its clear he did not give the game enough time/effort that others might.

My first play through was with a mage and while the choices before you after Lothering were given by Alistair and Morrigan I wanted to revisit the circle as that was where my roots were, i didn't feel pushed to go to a particular place first.

I partially agree with him over the itemisation in the game. The rewards for doing the more epic feeling parts of the game seem to be small, expecially when you see the items that can be bought from a merchant or as a result of a 30 second random encounter.

Modifié par Sakluce, 25 novembre 2009 - 05:13 .

[addiction21]

kungfusam wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Drake Sigar wrote...

One wonders if these so called "mouth breathing Halo lovers" can be blamed for their flawed criticisms on a type of game they know nothing about, and would normally never have bought if it were not for EA's marketing campaign that was aimed squarely at them.

If they purchased something based on its marketing or hype then they deserve no sympathy and should not be ranting about how they are unhappy with a product they knew nothing about before purchasing it.
EA did their job as a salemen and are not the cause of someone being a irresponsible consumer.  Just my two cents.

Its the fault of the game design, it need clear feedback and a better explanation of the machanics

It wasn't for the Bioware tag I could have easily confused my first couple of hours play with a Diablo like hack and slash

Were playing blindfolded?

[Kimberly Shaw]

3. The game is nonlinear. It's not open-world, but it's definitely not linear. You can finish objectives at your leisure for the majority of game time, in whatever order you choose. The fact that completing objectives requires you to accomplish tasks in sequence doesn't make this less true.

I don't think its a bad thing, but yes, a requirement to accomplish tasks in a sequence in order to get to the next tasks is "linear" in my definition. The non-linear aspect is really just in what order you do the mage/dwarf/redcliff/elves quests, and at least 2 of those lock you into an area for some or all of the quests until they are complete. This is not a bad thing, and even Oblivion and sandbox games are linear to a small degree.



For your other points, it would be very easy to explain why a group of mages would be outside the tower waiting for it to be cleared, and a templar would love to go help get rid of an abomination/Jowry. The point I made about the enchanter / time between quests being vague, he literally walks down the stairs to talk to the Head Templar, and still looks bloodied and bruised, bodies all over the floor, etc. etc. There is not a question of time elapsed, and states he is ready to set off immediately because "a life is at stake" which struck me as odd considering how many lives were also at stake at the tower. I guess I am the only one who thought so. But again, its a minor nitpick!

[smurfdude]

Also keep in mind that thanks to the EA marketing and hype campaign many people will have bought DA:O that would normally never of bothered with an old school RPG type of game. It would of been the same results if the Gothic series had of been hyped up

[Sibelius1]

Sereaph502 wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

kungfusam wrote...

So anyone who dislikes Dragon Age is "moth breathing, FPS playing kid"

You fanboys are just a constant source of irony and disappointment

The game isn't perfect. And yet I haven't seen anyone put forth a convincing argument or present some constructive criticism on the game's negative points.

All I see is "LOLZ THIS GAEM IS 2 HARD I R GOING BACK TO FPS LUL!!11"

Funny, because I see the same exact thing from DA:O fanbois.  Convincing argument or otherwise (how the hell do you argue an OPINION about a GAME and if you LIKE it or not?) if someone badmouths DA:O, like difficulty, they get bombarded with "U SUCK NOOB LOL GO BCK TO FPS GAMES BIOWARE IS GOD FOR MAKING A THINKING MANS GAME LOLOLOLOLOLOL"

Nail on head. Thick the irony is in the fanboys' posts hhhmmm?

Modifié par Sibelius1, 25 novembre 2009 - 05:18 .

[Sibelius1]

Double post

Modifié par Sibelius1, 25 novembre 2009 - 05:16 .

[TileToad]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

[nedaroth]

quote: BORDERLANDS

Now that's a fun game! I haven't looked back since!!

Diablo III can not get here soon enough!! Come on Blizzard! Save me!



Nuff said, i would give him 12 years old at the most.

[Khaldara]

It's really not that different in design from older Bioware titles though... ever consider previous productions to factor into your decision making process before making a purchase? Baldur's Gate 2 had the dragons (Both the red, and the silver one in the underdark), Watcher's Keep and its final boss (which was also entirely optional), and a variety of map selections for progressing side quests largely at your leisure.. .much like here.



Don't like the Astral Prison? Don't do the gem quest. Don't like the Planar Sphere? Don't do it. The Lich Mobs destroy you while time-stopped and you cant seem to counter it? Ignore the quest. Bioware has always been excellent about including MORE content than some people would care to complete (something quite commendable these days) but including plenty for those who want to do everything. But complaining about optional content being difficult (which is BARELY the case, assuming you are capable of tying your shoes by yourself and can find your spacebar button) is downright stupid.

[Sibelius1]

TileToad wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

There is no reasoning mate. It's just mindless bashing of someone because he happens to dislike the game. Sad.

[Melchiah109]

Sibelius1 wrote...

TileToad wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

There is no reasoning mate. It's just mindless bashing of someone because he happens to dislike the game. Sad.

The point was that it doesn't matter how long you've been a gamer if you suck at it. Which, apparently, a vast majority of the "fanboi" slingers tend to be. Much to my amusement since they are far more fanboy to their opinions than I could ever possibly be.

Sad.

[Blank Syndrome]

I thought we already did this topic.

Oh, this is a different reviewer.

Carry on.

[miltos33]

"Here is a typical person who hated Dragon Age"



...And here is a typical fanboy thread. Where else would it be?

[kungfusam]

Whats a fanboy slinger?



Is it like a catapult for fanboys

[Melchiah109]

Fanboy - a male who is highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject or hobby within a given field.



Fangirl - a female who is highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject or hobby within a given field.



Pot. Kettle. Black.

[Blank Syndrome]

kungfusam wrote...

Whats a fanboy slinger?

Is it like a catapult for fanboys

It's a sling, but you need ridiculously high STR to use it due to the weight of the ammo.

[Sibelius1]

Melchiah109 wrote...

Sibelius1 wrote...

TileToad wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

There is no reasoning mate. It's just mindless bashing of someone because he happens to dislike the game. Sad.

The point was that it doesn't matter how long you've been a gamer if you suck at it. Which, apparently, a vast majority of the "fanboi" slingers tend to be. Much to my amusement since they are far more fanboy to their opinions than I could ever possibly be.

Sad.

FIrst, the point I quoted was referring to credibility, not someone's ability to play a game.

Second, the rest of your post is gibberish, didn't understand a single point you were trying to make.

[Sibelius1]

....ing Double Posts!!

Modifié par Sibelius1, 25 novembre 2009 - 05:38 .

[Bibdy]

Kimberly Shaw wrote...

Okay, the reviewer is kind of "slow" BUT he did make a good point in one aspect as I felt the same thing.

The game sort of "nudges" you in my opinion by having Allistair, who is your first and arguably most important companion since he's the only other Grey Warden, straight out say that he wants to go to Red Cliff and Arl Eamon first off. This is fine and dandy, I think its a great starting quest to get Eamon as your mentor since he's so instrumental in the later parts of the game--much more than the dwarves and elves and mages.

However, the Red Cliff quest should NOT NOT NOT have required you to do the entire mages quest BEFORE you can finish it, considering how urgent the mission in Red Cliff castle appears to be. Plus, many people, like this reviewer and myself, do not like starting one large quest then having to stop it mid way and going onto another large quest, especially one like the mage where you are locked in. This was poor design in my opinion.

Either the game should have "nudged" you into the tower first rather than Red Cliff, or a mage at the docks should have been waiting with a big "!" over his head to come to the Earl's aid rather than locking you into a long quest when you're already in the middle of a long quest.

Just my 2 cents. The rest of his review is a bit silly, the difficulty is just fine in my opinion and customizable to boot!

I bet you're the same kind of person who complains about the game being linear once you discover the 'best course of action' is Mage Tower then Redcliffe...

That's part of what makes an RPG an RPG - making mistakes, learning from them and continuing through the game despite what might seem like unwanted consequences. I actually found it genuinely interesting and a fantastic twist that I wanted to play a 'Good' character, but was forced to make a difficult decision on the spot in Redcliffe Castle, since being told I didn't have enough time to travel to the Mage Tower and seek help. I could have gone there, finished that area off and come back, but I didn't know that at the time. The situation led me to believe I didn't have that choice. I was urged to make a decision right then and there, so I made one, and I had to live with the consequences of that choice. Truly an awesome piece of RPG storytelling.

In my next playthrough I was able to explore other options (in fact, my second playthrough I went straight to Redcliffe to pick the other 'bad' ending to that line since I was playing a total 'any means necessary' douchebag).

Another fantastic choice I had to make was the Landsmeet. It was clear that I wasn't going to be able to please everyone involved, so I had to take a stand a make a difficult decision.

Those are two of the most memorable events in the game and I applaud Bioware for creating those events and not being shy about putting players in those situations.

Too many RPGs in the past have given players the Good or Bad option, clearly defining which is which and the obvious consequences of each. The motivation for picking one or the other often always results in personal gain one way or the other. whether its XP, keeping party members happy, items, whatever. In DA:O they give you situations where you have to man-up, so to speak, and make a difficult call that can leave you proud of the decision you took, or make you want to reload and try it again, exploring another option. Most importantly, the 'rewards' you get for making that choice don't impact experience gain, item gain, or anything of the sort. Sometimes in other RPGs you might play a good character, but go out of your way to be evil in a few instances here and there just to get the super awesome item to min/max your way to glory, or a game like Baldur's Gate where you tag along an Evil party member to wear some awesome item which has an Evil restriction.

I genuinely grew in my perception of what an RPG could be because of this game.

Modifié par Bibdy, 25 novembre 2009 - 05:43 .

[Melchiah109]

Sibelius1 wrote...

Melchiah109 wrote...

Sibelius1 wrote...

TileToad wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

There is no reasoning mate. It's just mindless bashing of someone because he happens to dislike the game. Sad.

The point was that it doesn't matter how long you've been a gamer if you suck at it. Which, apparently, a vast majority of the "fanboi" slingers tend to be. Much to my amusement since they are far more fanboy to their opinions than I could ever possibly be.

Sad.

FIrst, the point I quoted was referring to credibility, not someone's ability to play a game.

Second, the rest of your post is gibberish, didn't understand a single point you were trying to make.

I'm sorry. Is reading too hard for you? Here, let me try something a little more basic.

Him say "long time gamer".

You say  "him stupid"

I say "You're stupid"

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

TileToad wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

First of all, this guy claims to be a long time gamer. These arguments always make me laugh

Yeah, me too.

It's always: I'm a long time gamer, I have broad experience with RPGs, I played Baldurs Gate, I own a PC, Xbox and PS3, blah blah blah.

They are so desperately trying to garner credibility, it's pathetic.

So it would make him more credible if he were to say DA:O was his first game ever?
I don't understand this reasoning, to be honest.

No, but I don't see why you have to bring up a long, fruitful career in gaming to make your review seem more relevant.