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I unlocked ^ last nite.
I was dead tired and was goin to bedd but I thought it will bug me till morrow untill I see how it fares ;]

Loaded solo Bronze challenge, lvl 14, Viper V as primary weapon, predator X as secondary. managed till wave 9 when I 'accidentally' bumped on a sharp end of a phantom toothpick just around the corner.

Who would have thought?

Is it doable with other races and classess? To solo bronze? Or silver for that matter? Maybe anything beside bronze is a suicide, what do you think?

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IF YOU ARENT MELEE KROGAN, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG

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Soloing bronze with any class is a easy. Especially with the Krogan. You were just tired.

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MoZedK

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All Challanges has been solo'ed.

I have done Bronze solo with my krogan.
I use Carnage alot and have Full Fortification.
I have the berserker high
I am not level 20 yet.

Did it at level 14.
Its all about knowing the enemy.

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AND IF YOU ARE A MELEE KROGAN, YOU CAN SOLO ANYTHING BUT GOLD, in which you are useless even with 3 people aiding you.

I hope in the full game melee krogan can actually do something on difficulties higher than silver.

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Melee becomes a third option, in Gold. Because if you go for Melee in gold, you are much quicker in a field full of enemies who go down less quick, who shoot at you quicker. The outcome is death.

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Even gold? With no console comands?

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MoZedK

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Adugan wrote...

IF YOU ARENT MELEE KROGAN, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG


Well thats your opinion...

I do not like rage, not when I play gold, I do not kill that many melee, taking a phantom on for size in melee it not that smart.
I am using carnage with great effect and kill fine with the soldier approch.

So thats your opinion, I do not agree cuz I found it easyer playing it Soldier style with carnage.

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MoZedK

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hangmans tree wrote...

Even gold? With no console comands?


Gold have been soloed look here

www.youtube.com/watch

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I was disappointed in the Krogan Soldier.

It seems like there were trying to go for a beast of a melee fighter, but due to the terrible melee issues (at least on console), it just doesn't work. And, as has already been mentioned, melee krogans just do not stand up well in higher difficulties.

Carnage is OK, but nothing special. Inferno grenades are garbage. Fortification helps you be a tank, but the only reason to do that is if you want to be fighting out in the open a lot, which is just a bad idea in this game, period, especially on higher difficulties. There's also no real way to enhance your damage bonus, so you're basically a tank, with carnage, with default weapons that don't do a whole lot on anything higher than Bronze.

I think that the Turian Sentinel makes a better Soldier than the Krogan.

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krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...

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ApplesauceBandit

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Totally awesome, I love my Krogan soldier Garm, to bad i have to re unlock him in the full game, i'm missing him already :(

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Sentr0 wrote...

krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...


Hardly useless, just have to play it smart.

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Sentr0 wrote...

krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...

Human soldier has to rely on adrenaline rush which can make for some good survivability but the damage bonus for it could stand to be better I think.

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I honestly have never played the Soldier class on MP. Someone give me a good build so I can try? :)

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Sentr0 wrote...

krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...


This is entirelly not true. Krogan Soldier IS very good at gold. It has very high HP/Shield. Carnage is very good, play like a soldier, stick to the team and use melee if enemy comes close, don't rush to them. It just a different playstyle on gold than bronze. 

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I myself love the Krogans varied play styles, you can go for a melee tank character who simply wades through the crowd, trail of death and destruction following in his wake, or you can play the soldier approach which is also fun and enjoyable, Carnage is great, Inferno Grenades are a great asset when leveled up, contrary to popular belief. My only issue is Fortification, I feel like it's a place holder, somehow it just doesn't seem to be a legitimate power.

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Shotgun wielding, melee Krogran behemoth is my favorite type to play. A tank of destruction, run to the enemy discharging your shotgun and then maul them to death.

Modifié par Arlionis, 01 mars 2012 - 12:41 .


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Daforth wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...


This is entirelly not true. Krogan Soldier IS very good at gold. It has very high HP/Shield. Carnage is very good, play like a soldier, stick to the team and use melee if enemy comes close, don't rush to them. It just a different playstyle on gold than bronze. 


The boost to HP/Shields is hardly noticeable, and you havent any other useful abilities (granades suck big time, and carnage is kinda meh). Also meleeing on gold is a fraking suicide, with all the spam from atlas and assault-troops-throwing-granades.

Turian sentinel is way way better for the purpose..

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For me personally, the melee Krogan isn't very good. My Krogan uses a Mattock assault rifle as their only weapon. Fully maxed carnage, fitness, fortification, and the Krogan becomes a nearly indestructible mobile missile launcher. Carnage does massive damage, has enough force to stagger the atlas, and I can lob one every other second. Half the time I end up still using carnage even at point blank melee range because I know its more than enough to do the job and it takes far less animation time.
Also because you are still an at range character this way.... you never die. Even taking an atlas missile to the face won't drop your shields much.

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Unlocked Krogan Soldier yesterday, love it so far. I haven't taken him on gold yet, but playing bronze/silver I can usually finish everything off Carnage ---> Claymore. Also Inferno Grenades on groups to weaken them, I don't see all the hate it gets, love that power. I rarely use Fortification however, as I'm too power based for the slower recharge, with the Claymore not helping.

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Chomposaur wrote...

Unlocked Krogan Soldier yesterday, love it so far. I haven't taken him on gold yet, but playing bronze/silver I can usually finish everything off Carnage ---> Claymore. Also Inferno Grenades on groups to weaken them, I don't see all the hate it gets, love that power. I rarely use Fortification however, as I'm too power based for the slower recharge, with the Claymore not helping.


If you go for a lighter weapon like an assault rifle, the power recharge delay is hardly noticeable even with fortification up.   

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Navasha wrote...

Chomposaur wrote...

Unlocked Krogan Soldier yesterday, love it so far. I haven't taken him on gold yet, but playing bronze/silver I can usually finish everything off Carnage ---> Claymore. Also Inferno Grenades on groups to weaken them, I don't see all the hate it gets, love that power. I rarely use Fortification however, as I'm too power based for the slower recharge, with the Claymore not helping.


If you go for a lighter weapon like an assault rifle, the power recharge delay is hardly noticeable even with fortification up.   


Ah cool, I might try out sometime then, try and put points into Fort/Rage for a more tank Krogan.

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Sentr0 wrote...

Daforth wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

krogan soldier is basically useless on gold, human one even worse...


This is entirelly not true. Krogan Soldier IS very good at gold. It has very high HP/Shield. Carnage is very good, play like a soldier, stick to the team and use melee if enemy comes close, don't rush to them. It just a different playstyle on gold than bronze. 


The boost to HP/Shields is hardly noticeable, and you havent any other useful abilities (granades suck big time, and carnage is kinda meh). Also meleeing on gold is a fraking suicide, with all the spam from atlas and assault-troops-throwing-granades.

Turian sentinel is way way better for the purpose..


I have both, I played gold with both. Both are good. I don't use grenade (no point at all, maxed Fortify, maxed Carnage). 1300 HP/ 1600 shield contra ~800-900/~800-900 on other classes counts, not big time, but counts especcially in rough situations. Carnage is not meh, it is frakking good. I wrote about meleeing, it works fine on closing Phantoms and troops coming to finish a downed teammate, otherwise I don't rely on it.
Usefull abilities? I have a weapon that kills, you know ...

So, still, anyone thinks Krogan Soldier is bad on Gold is wrong and just does not play it right.

However I agree with you about the Turian Sentinel, he is slightly better for Gold, but that does not mean Krogan Soldier is bad.

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Navasha wrote...

For me personally, the melee Krogan isn't very good. My Krogan uses a Mattock assault rifle as their only weapon. Fully maxed carnage, fitness, fortification, and the Krogan becomes a nearly indestructible mobile missile launcher. Carnage does massive damage, has enough force to stagger the atlas, and I can lob one every other second. Half the time I end up still using carnage even at point blank melee range because I know its more than enough to do the job and it takes far less animation time.
Also because you are still an at range character this way.... you never die. Even taking an atlas missile to the face won't drop your shields much.


Exactly! Ppl should understand that it is NOT mandatory to melee constantly with a Krogan, even that Rage gives good boosts. It is a tool that it can be used if the situation allows. Bronze allows it more, Gold allows it few times.