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[Whatever42]

dw99027 wrote...

Well, given Asari reproduction, if Liara is in that colony, 100 years down the road it'll be an all-blue people planet.

Not in a 100 years. There are probably enough crew to create a few good generations without a lot of inbreeding. And Liara doesn't have litters. 

But ultimately, with the Asari not having the same inbreeding problems, in a couple thousand years, it will be an Asari colony, absolutely.

[Whatever42]

" Tali won't even have a child I imagine (albeit given the... perticular... way Asari reproduce, maybe she wouldn't need to get out of her suit?). I know nothing about such things, so I doubt it can produce a viable population, but hey one can hope at this point."

No physical contact is necessary. However, Asari just use the genetic code to randomize certain genes in their offspring. So physiologically, the offspring aren't children of anyone but the mother.

[Elios]

well how many people are we talking here on the crew? 10, 25, 50?

a crew of 50 would with 20 females to 30 males
mind you your going to have some poligamy but hey for the greater good
your looking at at lest 60 kids its not a deep pool but its a start
but yes in the long haul if its really cut off the Asari will over run the humans

Modifié par Elios, 01 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[Vengal345]

Why would they have to create a colony? I mean it would be super lonely for liara but are they operating under the assumption that they are the only hope for their species? I think most people that stranded somewhere aren't thinking about having kids and colonize that location. They're thinking about maintaining their resources and staying alive, and eventual escape/rescue.

[General User]

I'm only partly "spoilered" myself (so feel free to disregard this)... but can't the Normandy make it to Bekenstein?  A planetary system with a population in the millions (including numerous aliens even of the dextro variety).

Modifié par General User, 01 mars 2012 - 02:12 .

[Whatever42]

Vengal345 wrote...

Why would they have to create a colony? I mean it would be super lonely for liara but are they operating under the assumption that they are the only hope for their species? I think most people that stranded somewhere aren't thinking about having kids and colonize that location. They're thinking about maintaining their resources and staying alive, and eventual escape/rescue.

FTL travel is gone. They are on some "random planet". It may be centuries or even millenia until technology advances enough that contact with other races allows someone to find them. They aren't being rescued. 

[Elios]

Vengal345 wrote...

Why would they have to create a colony? I mean it would be super lonely for liara but are they operating under the assumption that they are the only hope for their species? I think most people that stranded somewhere aren't thinking about having kids and colonize that location. They're thinking about maintaining their resources and staying alive, and eventual escape/rescue.

no Mass Relay means no one is coming for you in the next 100 years even with FTL at BEST your talking 10 years if its even CLOSE to another major system and thats if they know there thier in the first place

rescue is flat out for most part
escape is out too Normandy is dead and can not be repaired

[General User]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Vengal345 wrote...

Why would they have to create a colony? I mean it would be super lonely for liara but are they operating under the assumption that they are the only hope for their species? I think most people that stranded somewhere aren't thinking about having kids and colonize that location. They're thinking about maintaining their resources and staying alive, and eventual escape/rescue.

FTL travel is gone. They are on some "random planet". It may be centuries or even millenia until technology advances enough that contact with other races allows someone to find them. They aren't being rescued. 

My guess would be more like decades to a century.  The relays may be works of engineering beyond galactic civilization, but the basic technologies and underlying scientific principals are well understood.  Even replicated in miniature (the FTL comm buoys).

Again I'm only partially "spoilered."

[DXLelouch15]

lets just say its the first ever dextro and levo planet hell we got space magic in this game SPACE MAGIC so its not farfetched though im keeping tali the hell away from the normandy and romance her on a seperate file
edit: oh and Xio said eezo tech still works so ftl still works

Modifié par DXLelouch15, 01 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Confused-Shepard]

I now think giving the crew and squad-mates a noble and heroic death in the suicide mission is favorable over a painful and tortured existence for a few short years before finally dying an agonizing death. Can you imagine? They would eventually go mad and commit suicide.

Seriously, my Shepard would probably kill himself if he learned that was the fate of his crew

[DarxydeBluus]

I don't know why this discussion went into a big "Would they?" debate for gays and lesbians. Artificial insemination should be an option for them. They're not completely without technology, they have the Normandy. Of course, it still doesn't mean much in terms of the bigger picture, not a large enough crew for a viable population, but there you go.

[eye basher]

For tali and garrus solution is simple there's 2 actually bullet to the head or you don't need both arms and legs to live.

[MakeMineMako]

ademska wrote...

if the normandy crew has to sustain itself on that planet and creates a colony, which is ridiculous on its own merits

does that mean the dextro-aminos (tali, garrus) starve? and do steve cortez and samantha traynor have to have sex and procreate against their desires?

because all of that is super effing gross, bioware.

as a gay person, i'm honestly a little sick to my stomach thinking about the gay part.

There are not enough people aboard ship to maintain a viable population. 

And in any case, I think we are better off not knowing the future of the Normandy's "Lost Colony". Mainly because the neccessities of survival would make BSN's "progressives" rage, not understanding that such idealism is a luxury afforded only when the thin veneer of civilization is intact.

[AdmiralCheez]

I love this whole "oh noes, they're going to starve to death!" thing everyone's got going.

The new world is symbolic for a new beginning, a clean slate without the Reapers. It's a big, fat metaphor, and assuming everyone is doomed shows a seriously lack of creativity and/or optimism.

I mean, jeez, it's not the crew hasn't been through tougher stuff.

[HiroVoid]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I love this whole "oh noes, they're going to starve to death!" thing everyone's got going.

The new world is symbolic for a new beginning, a clean slate without the Reapers. It's a big, fat metaphor, and assuming everyone is doomed shows a seriously lack of creativity and/or optimism.

I mean, jeez, it's not the crew hasn't been through tougher stuff.

Not having any food to eat is a threat to anyone.  Besides, it's not our fault if it'd be impossible for food to be found on the planet.  Metaphorically, it may make sense.  Contextually, it doesn't.

[HiroVoid]

General User wrote...

I'm only partly "spoilered" myself (so feel free to disregard this)... but can't the Normandy make it to Bekenstein?  A planetary system with a population in the millions (including numerous aliens even of the dextro variety).

Haven't gone into too much detail in the system they're in, but since I belive FTL still works, maybe.

[wright1978]

I must have missed the previous dlc with the crew being stranded on a world with no edible food then. Ignoring the real practicalities of the endings with a handwave of 'they are only meant to be symbolic not real'. hmm no thanks.

[ademska]

yeah, they have not faced 'worse things' before. things with a more immediate threat of death, sure, but what makes this prospect terrifying (and cheap) is the idea of all your hypercompetent friends, squadmates, and shipcrew just wasting away with nothing they can really do to stop it

...well, except force the women to get mondopregnant, i guess

[Vengal345]

General User wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Vengal345 wrote...

Why would they have to create a colony? I mean it would be super lonely for liara but are they operating under the assumption that they are the only hope for their species? I think most people that stranded somewhere aren't thinking about having kids and colonize that location. They're thinking about maintaining their resources and staying alive, and eventual escape/rescue.

FTL travel is gone. They are on some "random planet". It may be centuries or even millenia until technology advances enough that contact with other races allows someone to find them. They aren't being rescued. 

My guess would be more like decades to a century.  The relays may be works of engineering beyond galactic civilization, but the basic technologies and underlying scientific principals are well understood.  Even replicated in miniature (the FTL comm buoys).

Again I'm only partially "spoilered."

[Chuvvy]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I love this whole "oh noes, they're going to starve to death!" thing everyone's got going.

The new world is symbolic for a new beginning, a clean slate without the Reapers. It's a big, fat metaphor, and assuming everyone is doomed shows a seriously lack of creativity and/or optimism.

I mean, jeez, it's not the crew hasn't been through tougher stuff.

Yeah, Garrus has been through way tougher stuff than having literally no food to eat. I mean, what sort of massive **** needs to eat to sustain himself?

[Bigdoser]

Slidell505 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I love this whole "oh noes, they're going to starve to death!" thing everyone's got going.

The new world is symbolic for a new beginning, a clean slate without the Reapers. It's a big, fat metaphor, and assuming everyone is doomed shows a seriously lack of creativity and/or optimism.

I mean, jeez, it's not the crew hasn't been through tougher stuff.

Yeah, Garrus has been through way tougher stuff than having literally no food to eat. I mean, what sort of massive **** needs to eat to sustain himself?

Slidell your posts are full of win. 

[Jake505]

The harsh reality is this there is not enough people to start a colony. The Alliance will have more people on board than Cerberus did, I would assume anyway. But lets say there are a 100 people on the ship. 4 are aliens lets say 16 are gay. So that leaves 80 people I would say 50 men 30 women. If the Gays are agreeable to be put in the mating pull and say there where 8 males 8 females then we have 58 males 38 females to start the colony with in 6 to 7 generations everyone sleeping with a relative. With in 8 to 10 generations you start having genetic issues.


But with that argument made. Life always seems to find away doesn't

[General User]

Geez! You people talk like you've never been shipwrecked on an island before!

Even if the Normandy is down for the count, is it possible to build or modify a "life raft" that could make it to a nearby populated planet?

[WeWant]

Massive Orgy.

[IronSabbath88]

I don't think Tali and Garrus are on the Normandy actually... Garrus has his own Turian platoon and Tali is probably helping with the Quarians considering she's an important part of them now, is she not?

I think that would leave James, Liara, VS, Sam, Steve, EDI and maybe Prothy stranded. Maybe I'm wrong but from what I saw from Garrus it seems like he's actually in the battle doing his thing leading his platoon.